Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Basque
- 1 Province names
- 2 Category:Lapurdi
- 3 Basque Conflict
- 4 Basque education system
- 5 I've changed Álava and San Sebastián
- 6 Provinces and cities
- 7 Ezpatadantz
- 8 WikiWomen's History Month
- 9 New WikiProject
- 10 Third party sought
- 11 EuskoTran requested move
- 12 Information assistance request for article "Cider mill"
- 13 Featured portal review
- 14 Comment on the WikiProject X proposal
- 15 WikiProject X is live!
I just spotted an anomaly; based on the above name debate, Category:Lapurdi should really be at Category:Labourd. Does anyone have any experience in moving Category pages? It doesn't seem to work the normal way and I don't want to break anything. We need to move it though and perhaps even set up a redirect because we have pages (such as Baztan (river) which are showing a dead category for Labourd. Akerbeltz (talk) 11:29, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- I've requested that Wikipedia bots do this change — here is my request. --Xabier Armendaritz(talk) 12:34, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Eskerrik asko for pointing us in the right direction. I followed the instructions and posted here Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Speedy#Add_requests_for_speedy_renaming_here - hopefully this'll be painless. Enjoy your weekend! Akerbeltz (talk) 12:55, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
New editor on the block. Not entirely sure what to make of the article, it seems to overlap with ETA a lot but it seems well ref'd. People might just want to put it on their watchlists as Tygerpencil has a habit of marking edits as minor (as he's now, it might be a misunderstanding though). Akerbeltz (talk) 16:30, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Hello, my friends: A group of us are working on clearing the backlog at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Articles_lacking_sources_from_October_2006. The article in the above header has been without sources for the past four years and might be removed if none are added. I wonder if you can help find one or two good references. While you are at it, can you make a concerted effort to find references for any other Basque article you are working on? Sincerely, and all the best to you, GeorgeLouis (talk) 19:16, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
I've changed Álava and San Sebastián
I've linked those articles to Álava-Araba and Donostia-San Sebastián, respectively.
In the case of Álava-Araba, is it with hyphen? or with a slash, used to avoid compounding/composition with unpleasant phonaesthetics (cacophony); e.g. Álava/Araba? If it is with a slash, then i will withdrow my changes.
Wikipedia policies say it is possible to use official names (including "double placenames" e.g. Vitoria-Gasteiz, Donostia-San Sebastián, Biel/Bienne, etc.) when there is not an English exonym. Whereas when there is an adapted (or translated) placename into English (exonym), it is only used the English form (e.g. Biscay, Navarre, Moscow). AFAIK, there is not an exonym in English for Álava or Araba, therefore both forms can be used at Wikipedia. Jɑυмe (xarrades) 00:37, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Well, on the one hand thanks for posting on the talk page but on the other hand you missed the big debate above where we agreed to use Álava as a consensus name and I'm personally loathe to restart the debate.
- While my personal preference is for Donostia-San Sebastián, we've had that debate a few times on the talk page and didn't get anywhere and I'm a tad tired of that particular debate - they tend to take forever, people get very emotional and the result is to maintain the status quo. But feel free to have a go, though I'd suggest you hang around a bit, edit softly and familiarize yourself with the way things work. It'll make any proposal you make more viable. Akerbeltz (talk) 14:42, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Provinces and cities
Why do the three provinces have names on three different languages? Biscay in English, Gipuzkoa in Basque and Álava in Spanish. There is no unity on that. I can see there has been some debate, but I can't figure out why three different languages have been chosen; all the articles should be named either on Basque, Spanish or English, but not three different. If someone can explain me the reasons, I'd be glad. Another thing; the cities. Most of the articles about municipalities have a Basque name, which I think it's appropiate enough, but there is a complete mess with the three capital cities, specially Donostia. While the article is named "Donostia" (Basque name) other articles which refer to the forementioned one are with Spanish titles, as San Sebastian metropolitan area.
I don't know what arguments have been explained before, but I believe the three provinces should have either a Basque name or an English name and the three capitals should have one consequent name. "Bilbao" (as Bilbo is scarcely known and little used), "Donostia" or "Donostia-San Sebastián" (I believe the latter one is better) and "Vitoria-Gasteiz" (current name of the article). Greetings.--Metroxed (talk) 08:22, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
- You are looking at the languages spoken in the places named, but this is the English language Wikipedia, so we should look at the English language. Biscay has an abundant usage in English — remember the Bay of Biscay, quoted profusely in English texts — so that's the correct name here. And I think that the other names are already in the form most widely used in present-day English, so I see no need to change them, except in San Sebastián — I agree with you that Donostia-San Sebastián (the official name, very profusely used in present-day English texts) would be preferable. Let's see what other Wikipedians think. --Xabier Armendaritz(talk) 08:37, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
- As I pointed out, there's no rule that says we all have to follow the same format. Place names historically tend to be a mixed bag. Take the south of China where common English usage has Hong Kong (Cantonese), Pearl River (English), Macau (Portuguese-ish) and Foshan (Mandarin). It just depends on what the historical connection is.
- As far as the provincial capitals go, battles have raged for and against. Vitoria was eventually returned to Vitoria-Gasteiz but I don't hold out much hope for Donostia to be honest. Akerbeltz (talk) 13:12, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
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WikiWomen's History Month
Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Basque will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in within Basque society. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 19:10, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Third party sought
I'm looking for a third party to review a content dispute. Ordinarily, I'd go to WP:3O, but the topic is particularly related to this WikiProject, so I hoped to find a more knowledgeable person here to help.
The dispute is over content presently located at User:Itzcoatzin. This user originally created a page that presently resides at Zambrano (surname), presenting a history of this surname and its notable holders. I and other editors edited the original author's work rather heavily, producing the version that exists today. Itzcoatzin wished to continue developing his version of the article, and has produced his present version on his user page. He then asked for feedback on his version, which I provided. Itzcoatzin is not satisfied with my evaluation of his work.
I would like an independent reviewer to look at Itzcoatzin's work and provide an unbiased opinion, as this user believes that I have not been fair with his work. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:44, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
EuskoTran requested move
Information assistance request for article "Cider mill"
Greetings. I am working on rebuilding and upgrading the existing article for "cider mill", about the process by which apples are crushed to make apple juice for cider. When I was going through the images and articles of Wikimedia, I found that there is a significant cider-making culture in the Basque Country. However, most of the sources readily available to me primarily discuss cider-milling in Britain, France, Germany, and the US. I want to make sure the Basque tradition is represented, yet as I am unable to provide any reliable sources in that respect, would anyone either know of any I could use (i.e. reliable digital ones) or otherwise be able to assist on that article? Cheers. Morgan Riley (talk) 01:53, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Morgan. Nice to hear that you want to include the Basque cider tradition. There's a fair amount on Wikipedia already, most on the Sagardotegi article (which is what the Basques call their peculiar mix of a cider mill/cider restaurant. It probably covers a lot of what you're thinking of but if you can see any gaps, let me know and we'll sort something. Akerbeltz (talk) 02:02, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
Featured portal review
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Comment on the WikiProject X proposal
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