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Districts of Belarus - naming inconsistency[edit]

District vs. Raion[edit]

User:Ymblanter, User:Good Olfactory, User:Retro-redakteur.u12, User:M3G2A1 changed 10 of the 64 districts in Minsk, Mogilev and Vitebsk regions from X Raion to X District, but left the other 54 at their old names, leaving the districts in these regions named inconsistently. - 21 districts - 6 changed by Ymblanter between 2013 and 2017 - 21 districts - 5 changed by Ymblanter, Good Olfactory, Retro-redakteur.u12 between 2013 and 2017 - 22 districts - 1 changed by M3G2A1 in 2017 (talk) 14:18, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

There was a several years old consensus to find everything to District, but I will have difficulties finding it now. I will eventually move all of the remaining articles.--Ymblanter (talk) 14:23, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
Dear Ymblanter, thanks a lot for the swift reply and the announcement to eventually move all of the remaining articles. Your recent moves were for districts of Mogilev Region. It is also the one with the oldest move date (2013-10-29) in the lists above. Maybe Mogilev can be finished first. (talk) 14:36, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
Found it, Talk:Instruction on transliteration of Belarusian geographical names with letters of Latin script#District vs Raion vs Rajon--Ymblanter (talk) 14:46, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

The process is running since 2013. Remaining 16 in Category:Districts of Vitebsk Region were done today within 10 minutes [1]. (talk) 15:35, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

And in Mogilev Region you messed the things up, making your participation net negative.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:51, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
Dear Ymblanter, can you please clarify? What happened with Category:Districts of Mogilev Region? I see 8 raion are left, down from 15 before my initial post on 10 September. That would mean ca. 8 minutes and they are finished too. Do you have 8 minutes? And maybe 20 minutes for Category:Districts of Minsk Region? (talk) 18:13, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
Now a move request is open, and I can not do anything until someone closes it. --Ymblanter (talk) 21:11, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
Comment: Requests for Mogilev Region have been made by IP 77 (Berlin), not IP 213 (Hamburg). Anthony Appleyard removed them as "done" [2] which means fulfilled. Discussions are marked with "discuss" [3] [4]. Cheers (talk) 02:36, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
See Talk:Cherykaw Raion.--Ymblanter (talk) 05:50, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────What a mess, suggest speedy close since consensus exists.

  1. Category:Districts of Brest Region‎ - 17/17
  2. Category:Districts of Gomel Region‎ - 21/21
  3. Category:Districts of Grodno Region - 17/17
  4. Category:Districts of Minsk Region - 22/22 - 2017-09-15 finished via WP:RM
  5. Category:Districts of Mogilev Region - 13/21 - 8 deceptively blocked User:Anthony Appleyard
  6. Category:Districts of Vitebsk Region‎ - 21/21 - 2017-09-13 finished via WP:RM (talk) 01:14, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Spelling of basename[edit]

Seven district article names contain diacritic marks, corresponding district seat article names should be checked too: (talk) 01:30, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

District fixed but center despite hinting at it not: Smarhon’. (talk) 22:15, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Four out of 100+ districts use Lacynka. Seems like straightforward uncontroversial move. But one user decided to question the romanization harmonization... (talk) 15:02, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Category:People by district of Belarus[edit]

In Category:People by district of Belarus there are X Raion left over, they should be moved to X District? Consensus exists since 2013. What do you think User:Ymblanter, User:Good Olfactory, User:Retro-redakteur.u12, User:M3G2A1, User:User:Anthony Appleyard, User:Iryna Harpy? (talk) 14:01, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Districts of Belarus - deleted categories[edit]

Emptied by a vandal and then deleted.

Cause for problems related to districts of Belarus identified[edit]

269 edits by User:The Blade of the Northern Lights caused all of the above problems and several more. Some now fixed thanks to Admin User:Ymblanter, Admin User:Anthony Appleyard, Admin User:Good Olfactory, Admin User:Ezhiki, User:Retro-redakteur.u12, User:M3G2A1, User:Ryk72

As if admins and editors have nothing else to do :-) (talk) 00:00, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

PS - and more admins and editors will be involved in fixing the remaining problems. (talk) 00:01, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, next time I'll let you handle the cleanup from a globally banned editor. You could have just asked what I was doing (2+ years ago now) or even taken the initiative to read the logs. I neither know nor care about the naming conventions, but the issue at that time was picking up the pieces of an extremely disruptive user. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:04, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
You are most likely talking to the same globally banned user.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:30, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Most likely. I'm just trying to make it obvious to passers-by what's up here. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 15:37, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
User:The Blade of the Northern Lights - but why did you decide to change from consensus names to anti-consensus names? Why didn't you just revert controversial edits? (talk) 15:05, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

WP:BELARUSIANNAMES - geographical names[edit]

Pietrykaŭ → Pietrykaw (move · discuss) – the project uses romanization based on BGN/PCGN romanization of Belarusian, compare with other towns (talk) 11:52, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Vasilievičy → Vasilievichy (move · discuss) – the project uses romanization based on BGN/PCGN romanization of Belarusian, compare with other towns (talk) 11:52, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Pietrykaŭ District → Pietrykaw District (move · discuss) – the project uses BGN/PCGN romanization of Belarusian, compare with the other districts (talk) 11:42, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Rahačoŭ District → Rahachow District (move · discuss) – the project uses BGN/PCGN romanization of Belarusian, compare with the other districts (talk) 11:42, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Žlobin District → Zhlobin District (move · discuss) – the project uses BGN/PCGN romanization of Belarusian, compare with the other districts (talk) 11:42, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Žytkavičy District → Zhytkavichy District (move · discuss) – the project uses BGN/PCGN romanization of Belarusian, compare with the other districts (talk) 11:42, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
........What is the current state of WP:BELARUSIANNAMES? Is it still accurate or has there been a change in WikiProject Belarus consensus? In ictu oculi (talk) 12:45, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
There was a clear consensus not to use Lacynka, and in this sense the moves seem to be good to me. For more details, I will ping @Iryna Harpy:.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:50, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
That's fine, as long as there are actual live editors on it. see Talk:Žytkavičy District. @Iryna Harpy: thanks @Ymblanter:, as long as the guidelines are agreed and linked somewhere editors can find them. In ictu oculi (talk) 19:31, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
@In ictu oculi and Ymblanter: Just confirming that Lacynka has been flatly rejected, and that there are more than one set of eyes watching the articles in question for the long term. There were a series of discussions surrounding the issue in 2013(?) with a number of editors retaining consensus for BGN/PCGN. I'll try to find the trail for the record. There's only been one fly-by-night editor pushing for its usage on any talk pages. Any other changes to the use of Lacynka conventions have been introduced without discussion (essentially ninja edits). If anyone wishes to challenge it, they're welcome to test the waters... but they'd have to come up with some new and convincing arguments. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 22:25, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

@Iryna Harpy and Ymblanter: another edit contesting the application of WP:BELARUSIANNAMES lot of extra work for WikiProject Belarus if each uncontroversial move request is turned into a discussion. (talk) 15:44, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Disambiguation links on pages tagged by this wikiproject[edit]

Wikipedia has many thousands of wikilinks which point to disambiguation pages. It would be useful to readers if these links directed them to the specific pages of interest, rather than making them search through a list. Members of WikiProject Disambiguation have been working on this and the total number is now below 20,000 for the first time. Some of these links require specialist knowledge of the topics concerned and therefore it would be great if you could help in your area of expertise.

A list of the relevant links on pages which fall within the remit of this wikiproject can be found at

Please take a few minutes to help make these more useful to our readers.— Rod talk 13:46, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

RfC on transliterated and Russian names of Belarus' in the lede[edit]

There is currently an RfC about the transliterated and Russian names of Belarus' in the page's opening paragraph. Your input would be appreciated. It can be found here. – Sabbatino (talk) 13:19, 30 January 2018 (UTC)