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Hello!
I have lately been reading a lot of Wikipedia biography articles, and looking at the genealogies within them (I know, I’m weird) but there is a particular phrase that just icks me a bit. After doing a search, I think I have a few examples to illustrate my example. For example, on the page Safavid family tree (permalink), the following is stated:
The great-grandson of Sheyk Safi, Sheik Joneyd, got married with Khadijeh Khanoum sister of Uzun Hassan and daughter of Ali Beg by his wife Theodora of Trebizond, daughter of Alexios IV of Trebizond. Heydar, son of Joneyd, married Katherina who was a daughter of Uzun Hassan by his wife Theodora, daughter of a Bagrationi Georgian princess and John IV of Trebizond.
Now, I don’t know about you, and I don’t mean to be a ‘politically correct prescriptivist’, but the use of ‘child of [FATHER] by his wife [MOTHER]’ seems a bit… misogynistic? Like I get it that sometimes it the father was more historically notable or important than the mother, but the use of ‘by’ connotes a kind of instrumentality. Recall this article-section on the instrumental case (permalink), where it says:
Modern English expresses the instrumental meaning by use of adverbial phrases that begin with the words with, by, or using, followed by the noun indicating the instrument:
I wrote the note with a pen.
I wrote the note (by) using a pen.
The use of ‘with’ is in my opinion kind of bordering on kind of objectification. I believe that it would be better to instead use ‘child of [FATHER] with his wife [MOTHER]’, or ‘child of [FATHER] and [MOTHER]’ if you want to forgo emphasising the father at all. Thus:
The great-grandson of Sheyk Safi, [[Shaykh Junayd|Sheik Joneyd]], got married with Khadijeh Khanoum sister of [[Uzun Hassan]] and daughter of Ali Beg
by his wifeand Theodora of [[Empire of Trebizond|Trebizond]], daughter of [[Alexios IV of Trebizond]]. Heydar, son of Joneyd, married Katherina who was a daughter of Uzun Hassanby his wifeand [[Despina Khatun|Theodora]], daughter of a [[Bagrationi]] [[Georgian people|Georgian]] princess and [[John IV of Trebizond]].
Of course, there are a lot more examples.
I think it would be nice if we could discuss whether we should be using the phrase ‘by his wife’. Of course it probably wouldn’t be a good idea to change every single article using this phrase, but maybe a discussion could lead to something.
One last thing: if it turns out this has already been discussed before, or there is a place where this would be better discussed (for example another WikiProject or the Wikipedia:Village pump or whatever), then tell me please.
Thanks! - delta (talk) 16:52, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with your point entirely and all new articles should absolutely avoid such language. If they are being editted anyway, then that language should also be changed to something less offensive. Also, the other errors in grammer should be fixed, such as "got married to", which is extremely awkward sounding. It should simply say that person A married person B. 174.3.216.108 (talk) 02:27, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
- As well as "got married to" , the phrase "got married with" is also bad grammer. It should just say that person A married person B. 2604:3D09:8878:4500:D5F0:FAA:CA06:B2EC (talk) 04:10, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- Totally agree with this; "Got married" totally "got" under my skin. For the parents: I prefer this type format: His parents were Mary Louisa (née Jones) and Thomas Alexander Smith. It is not passive voice puts both parents on equal footing, and also allows the addition of the father's profession, as in: ...Thomas Alexander Smith, a preacher. If both parents have a profession, I used a new sentence instead. Rublamb (talk) 07:30, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- As well as "got married to" , the phrase "got married with" is also bad grammer. It should just say that person A married person B. 2604:3D09:8878:4500:D5F0:FAA:CA06:B2EC (talk) 04:10, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
Hello editors, I have an open request on the Michael Meldman page that I believe editors here will find interesting. I can answer any questions on that article's talk page.
Thanks for the consideration! AmandaDLC (talk) 20:04, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
== Request for feedback on Canadian musician draft ==
Hello! I’ve recently submitted a draft article about Canadian singer-songwriter Jeanette Arsenault and would really appreciate any feedback.
The draft has been carefully revised with multiple reliable, independent sources — including newspaper and magazine coverage, national radio, and cultural recognition.
👉 User:Jeanette_Arsenault/sandbox2
I’m looking to ensure it meets notability and neutrality standards before it’s accepted. Many thanks in advance! Jeanette Arsenault (talk) 21:00, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
I have nominated Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna of Russia for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 (talk) 20:32, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Marcus Bryant#Requested move 4 May 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Valorrr (lets chat) 02:49, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Eltz#Requested move 26 April 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Valorrr (lets chat) 03:41, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
Thinking Of Stealing Songs @ Lyrics 2603:7000:1A42:4300:7CD7:F3E7:114:8A9B (talk) 17:19, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- That would be considered plagiarism as per WP:PLAGIARISM. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:21, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Matthias Koehl#Requested move 28 April 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPathtalk 08:25, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Robert Prevost (disambiguation)#Requested move 8 May 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Trailblazer101 (talk) 04:14, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
Nancy Pelosi has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 03:17, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
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Requesting review for Draft:Hafiz Abdur Rauf article. This article has various credible sources attached. I just wikify (talk) 09:09, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Pentagón Jr.#Requested move May 6 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 16:03, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
Hello everyone,
I have updated the article on the German film producer Gian-Piero Ringel:
The article is based on verifiable sources and follows the style of comparable biographies in the "Film Producer" category. I would appreciate a review, feedback, or any suggestions for improvement. Many thanks!
Best regards Cinekultur (talk) 12:35, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
Murali Kartik has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 01:04, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Francis Pangilinan#Requested move 13 May 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 03:44, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
A question came up at DYK about how to handle somebody who we're pretty sure has died but we don't have a year of death. Suggestions would be appreciated at Template:Did you know nominations/Sri Jumahaliah Hanifa. RoySmith (talk) 15:17, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Put a question mark, if its that obvious, the reader can figure out they are dead. Slatersteven (talk) 15:24, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- If you have a notion of the year, it would be correct to use circa 1980 Rublamb (talk) 07:32, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Chao Ratchabut Wongtawan Na Chiang Mai#Requested move 16 May 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 14:29, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
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Hi! I'm working on an article on Draft:Sanket Goel, an Indian academician. The draft had been approved but then reverted back to draft on the basis of COI. Can anybody please help improve the article and getting it published again? Thank you! Shashy 922 (talk) 05:38, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
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You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Christopher Reeve § Juilliard, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 05:12, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
There is currently discussion going on concerning the lede image for Andrei Gromyko, a page within the scope of this WikiProject. If you are inclined to participate, please feel free to share your thoughts on this thread. Emiya1980 (talk) 05:55, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
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Hi all — there’s an AfD discussion ongoing about Damien Costas (link to AfD), which has drawn reliable coverage from outlets like The Sydney Morning Herald, Crikey, The Guardian, WAtoday, and AFR. I’m not the creator, but I think it meets WP:GNG and would appreciate neutral eyes. Thank you! CharlotteMilic (talk) 12:21, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Talk:Nina Hartley#Free Speech Coalition awards about whether non-notable awards should be included in a biography. Your input is welcome. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:06, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
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Hi there — I recently submitted a draft for a biography of American television producer Adam Schor, who has worked on series such as *Ready to Love* (OWN), *The Rap Game* (Lifetime), and *House of Sims* (Netflix UK).
The draft includes multiple reliable third-party references (e.g. BroadwayWorld, IMDb, Lifetime, Shorty Awards) and was written in a neutral tone per BLP guidelines.
If any members of this project would be willing to review or offer feedback, I’d really appreciate the help.
Thanks! AdamSchor (talk) 23:32, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
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There is a discussion on the murder information in the infobox of the Dimebag Darrell article. It can be found at Talk:Dimebag Darrell#About the cause of death in the infobox. Input from project members would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 02:07, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
Greetings, editors. I am Ankit Fadia, the topic of this article. I have two open requests (1, 2) that editors interested in cleaning up biographies may be interested in. I'll be over at the article Talk if you have any questions. Thanks. Afadia (talk) 07:46, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
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Hello, I’m requesting neutral editor feedback or possible adoption for a draft article about Surya Devan, a Singapore-based media strategist and healthcare advocate.
The original draft was deleted under CSD G11. I have acknowledged the COI and am now working only in user space (once restored) to ensure neutrality and policy compliance.
If anyone is willing to review or advise, your help would be appreciated. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by SuryaDevanE (talk • contribs) 19:50, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
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British portrait painter. I can find some sources on him, but not that many. Mostly several British books covering the history of British painting, which dedicates some sections to him. So is he notable enough for an article? Harizotoh9 (talk) 04:04, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
@Deb and I have been discussing sources for birthdates of living people. My interpretation of Wikipedia:BLPPRIMARY is that we should not use Companies House records (or other records where they have been obliged to reveal their birth date) as a source for a living person's birthdate (year and month), on the grounds that we only use sources where they have voluntarily revealed their age or birthdate, respecting their privacy. Deb disagrees. How do other editors interpret this policy? PamD 16:26, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
- WP:BLPPRIVACY, a little further on in the same policy document under the heading "Presumption in favor of privacy", provides "
Wikipedia includes full names and dates of birth that have been widely published by reliable sources, or by sources linked to the subject such that it may reasonably be inferred that the subject does not object to the details being made public.
" I don't think Companies House records etc qualify as "widely published". PamD 16:34, 13 June 2025 (UTC)- It seems obvious to me that the register of company directors does qualify, whereas "Who's Who" is an unreliable primary source. Deb (talk) 18:22, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
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There's an important discussion regarding how we should handle the Death and tributes section of the Brian Wilson article. The discussion can be found at Talk:Brian Wilson#Death section. Input from project members would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 13:29, 15 June 2025 (UTC)