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Reorganizations to watch[edit]

Lerner, Heather; Christidis, LES; Gamauf, Anita; Griffiths, Carole; Haring, Elisabeth; Huddleston, Christopher J.; Kabra, Sonia; Kocum, Annett; Krosby, Meade; Kvaløy, Kirsti; Mindell, David; Rasmussen, Pamela; Røv, Nils; Wadleigh, Rachel; Wink, Michael; Gjershaug, Jan Ove (2017). "Phylogeny and new taxonomy of the Booted Eagles (Accipitriformes: Aquilinae)". Zootaxa. 4216 (4): 301. doi:10.11646/zootaxa.4216.4.1. 

FA + GA update[edit]

Looks like Grey-necked wood rail is almost over the line at FAC (good job Riley). Coming up through GAN, I just nominated Inaccessible Island rail prior to sending it to FAC, and Cas has Green Rosella, which I'm about to start reviewing. There are two other bird articles in GAN, Columbidae (which will need some expansion prior to FAC) and Red-billed quelea. Also Pigeon guillemot is shaping up nicely as a co-nom for me and Riley (just need to add some info on calls). Sabine's Sunbird talk 20:41, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

I'll review one of the GAs soon, but got my hands full with reviewing octopus for a little while... FunkMonk (talk) 21:51, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
Green rosella has passed GAN. Sabine's Sunbird talk 02:51, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
Nice job everybody! I don't think that I will do any GAN reviews, but I will try and do whatever FAC reviews that I can. Me and Cas are working on the red-billed tropicbird. I feel like we might be able to do a push to get the bird glossary to featured list status, but that would likely take multiple people. RileyBugz会話投稿記録 19:26, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
Looks like Cas nominated the red-billed tropicbird for GA status. RileyBugz会話投稿記録 20:01, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
Indeed I did....I made it a co-nomination. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:43, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
Aa77zz has done some edits on pied kingfisher...geez that has some nice photos..I mention this as a lot of it is about momentum and interest at the time.Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:44, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
I'm reviewing Red-billed Tropicbird, and Funkmonk is reviewing Red-billed Quelea - so do I have to change Inaccessible Island Rail to Red-billed Rail? Sabine's Sunbird talk 20:59, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
Reviewing yrs now. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Heh, we could do a Eurypygimorphae Featured Topic....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:56, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

I just reckon it'd be cool with tropicbirds, sunbittern and kagu. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:41, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
I could do one or two of the tropicbirds. RileyBugz会話投稿記録 00:56, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
I was thinking about buffing red-tailed tropicbird as well...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:19, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
That one I've seen (and is in BNA). Sabine's Sunbird talk 08:26, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
What's BNA? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:57, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
BNA = Birds of North America. It's now available online, and some of us also have paper copies. MeegsC (talk) 10:41, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Damn...didn't get to library to check some stuff for the tropicbirds...never rosella is at FAC...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:41, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
  • I GA passed Red-billed quelea yesterday, good work by a first time nominator, hope we'll see more. In one of the coming days I will GA nominate Guadeloupe amazon, and if I can expand it enough (description and intro are unfinished), maybe FAC. The bird itself isn't especially remarkable, but there is some nice historical artwork associated with it, and a somewhat interesting mystery mix-up case involving a fantasy macaw... FunkMonk (talk) 17:56, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Melampitta is at GAN. Because if you're going to pick and obscure family with very little known, go big or go home? Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:13, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
  • Guadeloupe amazon and Green Rosella are both at FAC. Sabine's Sunbird talk 07:59, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
And now the red-billed tropicbird is too! RileyBugz会話投稿記録 17:07, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
I'll take the pitohui soon, I'm a bit uncomfortable with higher level taxa. On this note, seems the Columbidae review has stalled? It's a rather important article, so would be good to get it right. FunkMonk (talk) 14:52, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
Melampitta has passed GAN and I'm currently reviewing Birds in culture. With regards to pigeon I'm not sure why it stalled, but the article looked like it needed some more content. Sabine's Sunbird talk 06:24, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
I am reviewing Mallard at GAN. Anyone is welcome to chip in with comments. Has the potential to be a big and complex subject....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:44, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Pinging all - I think Talk:Mallard/GA1 is nearly done...and Mallard is looking ok-ish. If anyone can see anything else that looks doable let me know in the next day or so. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:17, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

@Cas liber: I have some pages in a book that has some info about the eggs. I could email them to you Monday if you want, as I am too lazy to do the stuff needed to update it. RileyBugz会話投稿記録 00:15, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
@Casliber: Fix incorrect ping. RileyBugz会話投稿記録 00:16, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
  • Brolga has long "tarnished" the front page of the Bird project as a demoted FA. It was also featured very long ago, before the overhaul of FA criteria. ‎Cwmhiraeth has since improved it to GA status, so maybe it would be worth giving it the final push, so we can remove the speck from the front page? FunkMonk (talk) 14:27, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
Have ruminated on that several times and have planned to do just that...some time....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:17, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
Collaboration of the month? That takes me back! Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:16, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
We-ell, speaking of which, is it worthwhile reviving Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds/Collaboration so big, broad bird articles can be thrown on the wikitable and everyone chip in? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 06:42, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
I think that's a great idea Cas! We've got a pretty strong membership again, so we might actually get somewhere! ;) MeegsC (talk) 08:42, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
I think from past experience that tighter focused articles are easier to colab on that big families or topics. But I'm down. And certainly keen to help with Brolga. Sabine's Sunbird talk 08:50, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
I did the GA reivew of Brolga, so I might be ineligible to take part in nomination... But hey, we need reviewers at FAC too, so I can certainly review the further improved version by that time. FunkMonk (talk) 09:13, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
The GA review was a while ago and does not preclude getting stuck into it for the final stretch and becoming a nominator. I have reopened the collaboration and slung up a couple of ideas. The other idea was a migratory bird that a lot of us might know...Short-tailed shearwater, red knot (again), common tern, Parasitic jaeger, Great cormorant or something else. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:48, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
I've just moved the brolga from genus Grus to the resurrected genus Antigone - following the IOC (and H&M4, HBW alive and Clements 2016). - Aa77zz (talk) 13:03, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
Nice, seems the Grus page needs to be updated accordingly... FunkMonk (talk) 13:10, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
I'm working on it. -Aa77zz (talk) 13:36, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
  • Hi all!! Hope you are doing great. Could you give any suggestions on Black stork? Thanks a bunch. Face-smile.svg Adityavagarwal (talk) 12:57, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
I will take a look. I contemplated reviewing it but I have some stuff to add to it I think. I need to sleep and will look tomorrow. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 15:24, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
Thanks a big bunch buddy. Also, you can pick up American black duck anytime, although if due to any reason you are unable to, that would be fine too. Thanks again! Face-smile.svg Adityavagarwal (talk) 17:03, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
American black duck needs a good, solid copyedit; it really isn't ready for GA yet — "american" rather than American, "canadian" rather than Canadian, a mishmash of singular and plural verb tenses, poorly constructed run-on sentences all over the place... MeegsC (talk) 17:50, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
I'm starting on that. RileyBugz会話投稿記録 18:41, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
I see that Adityavagarwal (talk · contribs) is in the WikiCup, which may explain the sudden rush of not-really-quite-ready articles they've put up for GA. ;) MeegsC (talk) 20:04, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
Actually, the bigger reason is my English not really being upto very good standards, so I get a few errors. However, I referred other bird articles and added content and only when it had all the topics of feeding, breeding, etc. (and any more particular to that bird), so I put it up for GA. I apologize for that; however, am referring a lot in order to get a very good prose, just like most other editors over here.(for example it's vs its :P) Adityavagarwal (talk) 20:08, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
I think the next bird I will work on is echo parakeet, but I don't have many sources about extant birds. Did you say once you could send me the relevant HBW pages, Sabine's Sunbird? FunkMonk (talk) 13:57, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, got it! FunkMonk (talk) 19:43, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
Welcome. Does anyone have access to Emu? I would dearly like this paper [1] for rainbow pitta - annoyingly back when I was at uni I read it and cited it at pitta but didn't save it. Sabine's Sunbird talk 02:25, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
@Sabine's Sunbird: I think my access to Emu is working....but that link is to an article on the Chestnut Rail...? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 18:46, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
It is but it discusses othe anvil using species in the area. Sabine's Sunbird talk 19:23, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
@Sabine's Sunbird: ok, I sent it to an address you sent me a message in 2011 if it is still in use, otherwise ping me. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:28, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
  • I have moved in to help buff Black stork, which covers a lot of countries. Bit patchy still and if anyone has anything to suggest or add, it'd be great. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 18:46, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
  • I sent you some useful content from BNA to help you with that article. Sabine's Sunbird talk 22:59, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! MeegsC, do you want to get rid of the misc. section, start a status section, and expand the distribution section? I left it for you to do. RileyBugz会話投稿記録 18:42, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Arbitrary break[edit]

  • Pigeon guillemot and black stork are both at FAC now. Sabine's Sunbird talk 19:44, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

List of birds of South Texas - candidate for deletion?[edit]

I looked at List of birds of South Texas for the first time today and wonder how it was approved for publication. It has no references, follows no standard taxonomy (seagulls !), and is far from complete. The article doesn't even look like a worthy candidate for restoration, because South Texas as shown is a political, not biogeographic, area. If folks agree, can someone with the necessary authority level delete the page? Craigthebirder (talk) 22:05, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Good point. I suggest a WP:PROD.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  22:11, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
States, provinces, and countries for that matter are political and not biogeographic, but South Texas is not defined even politically very well and too small politically to constitute a list.....I'm OK with Craigthebirder's and/or SchreiberBike's suggestion. Also, there are a number of lists in Category:Lists of birds by location that may be too small for the project to keep....... Pvmoutside (talk) 00:50, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
Seeing no objections, I'll initiate the PROD. Craigthebirder (talk) 14:45, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Recruit new editors for the project?[edit]

Hi, just wonder if there is any template or program in the project to recruit newcomers or new editors to join the project? Bobo.03 (talk) 18:03, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

I don't think so. If we see an editor that we think would make a good addition, we usually tell them on their talk page. RileyBugz会話投稿記録 22:16, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
I usually use a standard introduction and mention the project. Sabine's Sunbird talk 04:25, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
Yes, an invite/intro like this can be copied if you see someone contributing to bird articles. Loopy30 (talk) 14:58, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
I see. I am a PhD student from the University of Minnesota. We are planning on a study to help projects recruit new editors to contribute. I am not sure if this is something WPB would be interested in. Here is our project detail. Bobo.03 (talk) 04:18, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
@Bobo.03:, the above link doesn't work! MeegsC (talk) 07:48, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
I wouldn't usually alter anyone else's post, but I've amended the link. I hope that's OK. William Avery (talk) 12:28, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, William Avery for fixing the link. Yeh, Please let me know if you would feel interested in the idea! Bobo.03 (talk) 14:25, 13 July 2017 (UTC)