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photographers a part of this project?[edit]

hi, i was going to add Rathika Ramasamy, a bird photographer, to this project but thought i better check first. thanks:) Coolabahapple (talk) 02:11, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Absolutely, Rathika is welcome to join! However, we usually let people choose for themselves whether or not to join, rather than adding them. Anybody who wants to join can just add their Wikipedia username to the "members" list. Let me know if you have any question! MeegsC (talk) 07:05, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Acrocephalus schoenobaenus[edit]

Can someone confirm that this image on Commons is in fact the Acrocephalus schoenobaenus? One of our ornithologists in Wales believes that it has too much yellow. I note that the colour of the legs just about ok (Collins). Photo maybe taken in bad light? Change from prefered image in Wikidata to another? Llywelyn2000 (talk) 09:48, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Bore da, Llywelyn2000, if I saw that in a Welsh reedbed, I'd assume that it was a juvenile sedge warbler from the head and rump patterns, I don't think it's streaky enough for aquatic warbler Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:41, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Pachyplichas might be a synonym of Xenicus[edit]

A new study suggests that Pachyplichas might be better a synonym of Xenicus.

Mitchell, Wood, Llamas, McLenachan, Kardailsky, Scofield, Worthy, Cooper. (2016) (In press.) Ancient mitochondrial genomes clarify the evolutionary history of New Zealand’s enigmatic acanthisittid wrens. Mol. Phylogenet. Evol. doi:10.1016/j.ympev.2016.05.038 --Melly42 (talk) 13:11, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Interesting paper - the 2010 paper on Kuiornis does foreshadow it a little. Need to keep an eye on IOC etc. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:46, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
Another interesting aspect of the paper is the retaining of the genus Traversia (for Xenicus lyalli) as also proposed by BirdLife/IUCN. --Melly42 (talk) 22:18, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
Yep, that looks like a straighforward update. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:21, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
IOC is updated here --Melly42 (talk) 19:24, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Assessment statistics[edit]

Can we please have a table showing a breakdown of the number of articles based on quality and importance as per Wikipedia Version 1.0 Editorial Team Assessment policies and importance criteria. An example of such a table is shown at the WP:Med page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine#How_to_help

I can help out if someone shows me how to do this. NJ (talk) 01:01, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

It's at the end of the project subpage at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Birds/Assessment Shyamal (talk) 04:05, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! Got it! YesY NJ (talk) 14:07, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Too many videos[edit]

In the external links section of Peregrine falcon, there are lots and lots of videos. I have no experience assessing these for bird articles; if someone here would like to weed them out, you have my blessings! — Gorthian (talk) 00:16, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Looking for feedback on a tool on Visual Editor to add open license text from other sources[edit]

Hi all

I'm designing a tool for Visual Editor to make it easy for people to add open license text from other sources, there are a huge number of open license sources compatible with Wikipedia including around 9000 journals. I can see a very large opportunity to easily create a high volume of good quality articles quickly. I have done a small project with open license text from UNESCO as a proof of concept, any thoughts, feedback or endorsements (on the Meta page) would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

--John Cummings (talk) 14:40, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Halcyoninae?[edit]

I'm trying to stub-sort Shovel-billed kookaburra, and getting confused (ah, I see now that someone else has done so while I've been typing here: it's at {{Coraciiformes-stub}}.

Does the subfamily Halcyoninae, given in this bird's taxobox, exist (currently it redirects to Tree Kingfisher), or is it a typo for Halcyonidae? Category:Halcyoninae was created today and is malformed. Category:Halcyonidae exists. Alcedinidae, the family given in this bird's taxobox, redirects to Kingfishers, where it's said that The group is treated either as a single family, the Alcedinidae, or as a suborder Alcedines containing three families, Alcedinidae (river kingfishers), Halcyonidae (tree kingfishers), and Cerylidae (water kingfishers). This bird is described as a tree kingfisher. Could an expert have a look, please? Thanks! PamD 15:31, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

I'm no expert, but I think most taxonomists use the family Alcedinidae, with subfamily Halcyoninae.......taxonomy is sometimes conflicting, with some sites using one source, others using others.......Pvmoutside (talk) 17:38, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
  • I have been expanding some tree kingfisher articles such as Common paradise kingfisher. At the foot of the page they have rather ugly and voluminous "navboxes", if that's the right word, with a hide/show link. How can I get these to display in hidden mode rather than show mode? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:41, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
I've modified the code of the Navbox replacing the line |state = {{{state|autocollapse}}} by |state = {{{state|collapsed}}} following the documentation at Template:Collapsible_option but this doesn't appeared to have had any effect on the box in the Common paradise kingfisher article. Aa77zz (talk) 11:48, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
I've edited the Navbox again and replaced the state line with |state = collapsed which did the trick. I don't know where to look for the documentation for {{{state|}}}. Aa77zz (talk) 12:05, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. Just what I wanted. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:12, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
I've realised that there was no need to edit the template. I've reverted my changes there and simply added "{{Halcyoninae| state=collapsed}}" in the Common paradise kingfisher article as shown here. Aa77zz (talk) 12:31, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
This navbox is used in many articles. It is tedious to add | state=collapsed to every article so I've asked at Village Pump (Technical) here how to change the default state. Aa77zz (talk) 13:14, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
Fixed (collapsed as a default). In my initial test I didn't purge my cache. I should have known better - I've been caught by this before ... Aa77zz (talk) 13:40, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
Thank you again. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:18, 13 July 2016 (UTC)