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Bin Chicken, 'Low Importance'?![edit]

How can the Sydney Bin Chicken, a national cultural icon and connoisseur of bin juice, be ranked as "Low Importance"? I would encourage ornithologists to please update themselves with this 'Planet Earth' episode. Bin Chicken SC would not be at all impressed and I fear that you may end up with a legal fight on your hands, if his eminent status is not duly noted. (talk) 01:03, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Never mind, I have just found Requesting an assessment page. (talk) 01:08, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
It may be more important for Wikiproject Australia (feel free to heighten its importance there). But among birds overall, probably not so much. The sacred ibis of the same genus is probably more historically famous worldwide, but it is also rated as low. FunkMonk (talk) 01:12, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
The Bin Chicken is rated as the second most popular bird in Australia, a continent of 7,686,884 square km and the 6th largest nation on Earth. There's only 7 continents, which means it's *at least* the 14th most important bird. There are multiple online videos about it with *millions* of views each. Can you show me any such videos about Thoth or the 'Sacred Ibis', with that kind of popularity? Note Bin Chickens were commonly called the Sacred Ibis here too, until differentiated (from 1970s-1990s), so you may be misattributing some of the BC's fame there. Thoth also struggles for relevance, unlike the Bin Chicken, which is also a very important bird to Indigenous Australians - the oldest continuous culture in the world, over 60,000 years and still strong. Thoth and the Egyptian Empire was a flash in the pan. (talk) 13:58, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
Even the peacock, arguably one of the most famous birds in the world (and gets many times the page views of the Australian ibis per day), is "only" listed as mid importance. FunkMonk (talk) 14:17, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Article assessment is a crapshoot, but generally speaking for a project like this, articles on individual species of bird are pretty much always going to be low importance because, clearly, there are just so many of them. It's not an assessment of the bird's real-world significance. More "important" articles are broader topics, usually. There are currently 38 "top importance" articles (e.g. bird, evolution of birds, bird anatomy), while there are over 15,000 "low importance" articles including very well known birds like barn swallow and American crow and blue jay. But it's also broadly inconsistent: bald eagle is rated "high importance", common starling is rated "mid-importance", and I'm sure there are many other confusing examples.
Being a cultural icon of Australia would likely signify a higher importance assessment for WikiProject Australia (although for example the Canada jay is still rated "low-importance" for WikiProject Canada) but not necessarily for this project. Also, please don't make legal threats on Wikipedia. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:30, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
I think the "threat" was a joke, in reference to this:[1] Almost makes me wish I was Australian, so I could get all their weird animal references, hehe... In any case, if someone wants to do justice to the bird, expand the article! Few people really care about importance ratings, the readers don't see it anyway. What really matters is if anyone works to improve the article, and that is rarely done in accordance with such raitngs. FunkMonk (talk) 14:35, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
Fair. Thanks for your helpful replies and good luck to you FunkMonk. Forgot my own rule that I've given up working on Wikipedia anyway though. It used to be easy and helpful to productively generate high quality, well referenced and accurate content. Now days it's just a waste of time and effort to continuous fight edit cabals over endless minutiae, bike shedding, ego stroking and power trips. All the best and thanks for constructive dialogue with you personally though. (talk) 16:28, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
I think you will find that when you move away from controversial subjects, and edit for example bird or dinosauer articles, there is very little of the drama inherent in other subjects. If your additions are sound, you will very often find yourself the ony editor of an article for months at a time. FunkMonk (talk) 02:23, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
American Bald Eagle, "High Importance"?! Quoting here: "One of the smallest eagles in the world, only eats little fish, basically a glorified seagull", versus the mighty Australian Wedge-tail Eagle: "One of the largest eagles in the world, hunts large mammals including kangaroos, can see in infrared and ultraviolet, only eagle in the world that attacks parachutes and paragliders". Ever caught the glint of a Wedge-tail's eye, circling above and peering into your soul? Truly a king among pidgeons. FunkMunk is correct that I don't think Bin Chicken SC is actually too likely to take legal action. Although judging by his profile picture here, who could really know WHAT he is plotting?! Thank you kindly for the background and informative explanations though IvanVector. Regarding the peafowl (aka peacock), I fully endorse not ever letting him rise above "mid importance", just on the basis that he's such an obvious attention seeker. The peafowl quite deserves to be taken down a notch or two. Just a bit too much of an arrogant twerp show-off. (talk) 15:00, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Birds of prey in flight[edit]

I need help in identifying the two birds of prey in flight above. I took the pictures in the Volerie des aigles. --AmBu (talk) 00:26, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Featured quality source review RFC[edit]

Editors in this WikiProject may be interested in the featured quality source review RFC that has been ongoing. It would change the featured article candidate process (FAC) so that source reviews would need to occur prior to any other reviews for FAC. Your comments are appreciated. --IznoRepeat (talk) 21:37, 11 November 2018 (UTC)