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Reorganizations to watch[edit]

Lerner, Heather; Christidis, LES; Gamauf, Anita; Griffiths, Carole; Haring, Elisabeth; Huddleston, Christopher J.; Kabra, Sonia; Kocum, Annett; Krosby, Meade; Kvaløy, Kirsti; Mindell, David; Rasmussen, Pamela; Røv, Nils; Wadleigh, Rachel; Wink, Michael; Gjershaug, Jan Ove (2017). "Phylogeny and new taxonomy of the Booted Eagles (Accipitriformes: Aquilinae)". Zootaxa. 4216 (4): 301. doi:10.11646/zootaxa.4216.4.1. 

FA + GA update[edit]

Looks like Grey-necked wood rail is almost over the line at FAC (good job Riley). Coming up through GAN, I just nominated Inaccessible Island rail prior to sending it to FAC, and Cas has Green Rosella, which I'm about to start reviewing. There are two other bird articles in GAN, Columbidae (which will need some expansion prior to FAC) and Red-billed quelea. Also Pigeon guillemot is shaping up nicely as a co-nom for me and Riley (just need to add some info on calls). Sabine's Sunbird talk 20:41, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

I'll review one of the GAs soon, but got my hands full with reviewing octopus for a little while... FunkMonk (talk) 21:51, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
Green rosella has passed GAN. Sabine's Sunbird talk 02:51, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
Nice job everybody! I don't think that I will do any GAN reviews, but I will try and do whatever FAC reviews that I can. Me and Cas are working on the red-billed tropicbird. I feel like we might be able to do a push to get the bird glossary to featured list status, but that would likely take multiple people. RileyBugz会話投稿記録 19:26, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
Looks like Cas nominated the red-billed tropicbird for GA status. RileyBugz会話投稿記録 20:01, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
Indeed I did....I made it a co-nomination. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:43, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
Aa77zz has done some edits on pied kingfisher...geez that has some nice photos..I mention this as a lot of it is about momentum and interest at the time.Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:44, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
I'm reviewing Red-billed Tropicbird, and Funkmonk is reviewing Red-billed Quelea - so do I have to change Inaccessible Island Rail to Red-billed Rail? Sabine's Sunbird talk 20:59, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
Reviewing yrs now. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Heh, we could do a Eurypygimorphae Featured Topic....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:56, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

I just reckon it'd be cool with tropicbirds, sunbittern and kagu. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:41, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
I could do one or two of the tropicbirds. RileyBugz会話投稿記録 00:56, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
I was thinking about buffing red-tailed tropicbird as well...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:19, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
That one I've seen (and is in BNA). Sabine's Sunbird talk 08:26, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
What's BNA? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:57, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
BNA = Birds of North America. It's now available online, and some of us also have paper copies. MeegsC (talk) 10:41, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Damn...didn't get to library to check some stuff for the tropicbirds...never mind..green rosella is at FAC...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:41, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
  • I GA passed Red-billed quelea yesterday, good work by a first time nominator, hope we'll see more. In one of the coming days I will GA nominate Guadeloupe amazon, and if I can expand it enough (description and intro are unfinished), maybe FAC. The bird itself isn't especially remarkable, but there is some nice historical artwork associated with it, and a somewhat interesting mystery mix-up case involving a fantasy macaw... FunkMonk (talk) 17:56, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Melampitta is at GAN. Because if you're going to pick and obscure family with very little known, go big or go home? Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:13, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
  • Guadeloupe amazon and Green Rosella are both at FAC. Sabine's Sunbird talk 07:59, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
And now the red-billed tropicbird is too! RileyBugz会話投稿記録 17:07, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
I'll take the pitohui soon, I'm a bit uncomfortable with higher level taxa. On this note, seems the Columbidae review has stalled? It's a rather important article, so would be good to get it right. FunkMonk (talk) 14:52, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
Melampitta has passed GAN and I'm currently reviewing Birds in culture. With regards to pigeon I'm not sure why it stalled, but the article looked like it needed some more content. Sabine's Sunbird talk 06:24, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
I am reviewing Mallard at GAN. Anyone is welcome to chip in with comments. Has the potential to be a big and complex subject....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:44, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Pinging all - I think Talk:Mallard/GA1 is nearly done...and Mallard is looking ok-ish. If anyone can see anything else that looks doable let me know in the next day or so. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:17, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

@Cas liber: I have some pages in a book that has some info about the eggs. I could email them to you Monday if you want, as I am too lazy to do the stuff needed to update it. RileyBugz会話投稿記録 00:15, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
@Casliber: Fix incorrect ping. RileyBugz会話投稿記録 00:16, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Bird Songs[edit]

as an effort to improve articles on birds, i would like to add calls of different species of birds. some calls are available in wikicommons, but not all. can i add media files from Xeno-canto library which are under creative common license. Is there any rules i need to follow while adding them . Can anybody explain the procduresIamsalin (talk) 15:50, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

  • Best to upload files at the commons. They have a help desk which links to [frequently asked question]. Sabine's Sunbird talk 06:23, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
  • Is there any prohibitions in uploading creative common licensed material from xeno-canto to wikicommons? Iamsalin (talk) 08:23, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
    • It would depend on the type of creative commons license used. Ones that do not allow modification or commercial use would probably not be welcome. Sabine's Sunbird talk 08:55, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
      • what about CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 licensed files.is it okay if i upload the files to wikicommons if i credit the recordist. Iamsalin (talk) 11:13, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
        • Iamsalin, I assume you saw the answer just added on Commons? [1] It appears that only CC-BY-SA licenses are suitable (share alike licenses) - this does not include ND variants (which stipulate "no derivatives"; this however is something that Wikipedia explicitly allows). --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 11:23, 13 June 2017 (UTC) Add: I do get the impression that the majority of files on xeno-canto are of the share-alike type though. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 11:25, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
          • Thanks for the clarification -- Iamsalin (talk) 14:07, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi Iamsalin. On the project page you will see a section at Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds#Linking bird calls and songs, which you might find of interest. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:23, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
  • Fuhghettaboutit We need to be play the songs directly in the article, not through any external link. What will happen if the medias are somehow removed by xeno canto -- Iamsalin (talk) 12:37, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
  • I was not suggesting that finding suitably licensed songs and calls and uploading them was not a worthy goal! But if you can't procure a recording that that is possible for, the external use of xeno-canto is better than nothing.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:45, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

I thought this interesting[edit]

Some of you may already be aware of this (the discovery is a few months old) but some not. It might be something for mention in our feather article (if not already there; I haven't checked). Anyway, it appears we have our first true detailed picture of feathers in dinosaurs, not just fossilized impressions but whole feathers from a dinosaur tail preserved in amber (apparently evidencing that barbule development was significantly earlier than thought): Here's the link. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:29, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Dispute at Bird[edit]

Trying to avoid an edit war over lead of bird, please check out Talk:Bird#Lead_dispute. Cheers Sabine's Sunbird talk 18:42, 19 June 2017 (UTC)