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Please determine the species of tropical birds in the category below![edit]

In c:Category:Undetermined birds from the Natuurkundige Commissie voor Nederlandsch-Indië i have collected drawings of undetermined Indonesian birds.
* Could you please help and fill in the missing current species names in this category? Thank you very much, uploader Hansmuller (talk) 11:49, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Naturalis Biodiversity Center - MMNAT01 AF NNM001000084 - Natuurkundige Commissie voor Nederlandsch-Indië - Bird species - Art by Oort, P. van.jpg
Naturalis Biodiversity Center - MMNAT01 AF NNM001000082 - Natuurkundige Commissie voor Nederlandsch-Indië - Bird species - Art by Oort, P. van.jpg
Naturalis Biodiversity Center - MMNAT01 AF NNM001000078 - Natuurkundige Commissie voor Nederlandsch-Indië - Bird species - Art by Oort, P. van.jpg
Have added ids to the second and third files. Shyamal (talk) 13:00, 9 October 2015 (UTC). Thanks, took them out of the undetermined category!, Hansmuller (talk) 13:11, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
The first is possibly Podargus papuensis. Shyamal (talk) 13:03, 9 October 2015 (UTC). How do we know it's not one of the other Podargus? Hansmuller (talk) 13:22, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
Could well be, I am not familiar with the birds of that region and was just guessing based on Internet based check for species in the region. Shyamal (talk) 16:28, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
Second is possibly a subsoecies of Common kingfisher? FunkMonk (talk) 14:13, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
The images have changed - it appears that Alcedo valida is a nomen nudum Shyamal (talk) 16:27, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

CRC Handbook of Avian Body Masses[edit]

The headlined book apparently assumes its readers are already familiar. I am not. May I assume that the masses given for Mean, Min and Max are in grams? I read the whole introduction but failed to locate what I would think would be basic information about unit type.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:07, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

In the intro section, page 5, second paragraph says "All means and ranges are given in grams." :) MeegsC (talk) 23:31, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
So much for my careful reading:-) Thank you MeegsC.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:34, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Suggestions welcome on species-article writing handbook for university students[edit]

Hello all; I'm writing on behalf of the Wiki Education Foundation, which works with instructors who assign university students to write or edit Wikipedia articles in the United States and Canada. We're developing a print handbook for students who will write or expand articles on a brochure - found here - about editing species articles, including animals, plants and fungi. I'd appreciate any feedback on the draft! It is open for comment until November 5th; after that we will set it to print. Thanks so much! Eryk (Wiki Ed) (talk) 23:13, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Birdsong from the British Library[edit]

The British Library is releasing some sound recordings at Commons:Category:Wildlife Sounds in the British Library so far the vast majority are of birds so I thought people here might be interested. There will be an editathon re this material ϢereSpielChequers 21:42, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Manual of style advice for the BL edit-a-thon[edit]

Could I have some Manual of Style guidelines that we can use at the Europeana Sounds Editathon 7 November

  • Am correct in saying that a sound file should be added to both the taxobox and in the text directly under the subheading Description.
  • Looking at the description: There are several ways to add a sound file- [[File:Filename.ogg|thumb|Caption]], [[:File:Filename.ogg|thumb|Link words such as birdsong]], {{audio|Filename.ogg|Caption}}, {{audio|Filename.ogg|Caption|help=no}} {{listen | pos = right | filename = Filename.ogg | title = Caption | description = Text| format = [[Ogg]] }}. Which is the preferred method? Would it be sensible to have a custom template similar to {{pronunciation|Filename.ogg}} may be {{Birdsong|Filename.ogg}}? Some of these templates display a loudspeaker icon- should we have a birdsong-icon.svg or is this to be avoided at all cost?
  • Looking at the description:Is the sound bar coded above or below the section heading- I suspect the latter.
  • Looking at the taxobox: all the comments above apply but the solution could be different.
  • Looking at the taxobox: there is no parameter for sound, sound-caption. Does one need to added- where would it display the soundbar. I would say it is needed as it makes mechanical capture so much easier- look at Wikidata for example.
  • Looking at the taxobox: sound files can be added by a) using the image2 parameter, or b) embedding the sound in text usually image-caption. Is this right?

Any rate I need examples of good practice, and the project need to layout guidelines. So please can I have any suggestions. -- Clem Rutter (talk) 11:48, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

I do not believe we have a guideline for sound file placement. I suspect a regular box in the behaviour section where the call is described would be the best place for the moment although I would like to see nice placement in the taxobox although it does not have a labelled field for the purpose. In the past some of us have used the image caption area. Shyamal (talk) 02:56, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Important Bird Area[edit]

In the article Important Bird Area, there is a "clarification needed" tag that was added in August 2015. I wonder if someone in WikiProject Birds could clear that up. Corinne (talk) 03:37, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Pictures of Birds[edit]

I have a lot of pictures of birds (mostly in New Jersey but also other places around the world) the pictures are taken with a Nikon d700 and the images are 12.1 megapixel quality. If anyone is interested please leave a message on my talk page. --Have a great day :) , Sanjev Rajaram (talk) 16:33, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi, feel free to add them all to Wikimedia Commons, the they are likely to be found and used. FunkMonk (talk) 17:04, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
These sound like an extremely useful addition. When adding to Wiki Commons, please make the images more useful by writing in the location of each photograph preferably in the description somewhere. Snowman (talk) 19:29, 18 November 2015 (UTC)