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Stub articles for the Munros[edit]

After glancing at the List of Munros I noticed there an awful lot missing their own articles.

I've made a start and done the following in the last couple of days:

The sources used are munromagic, The Munros, Scottish Mountaineering Trust, 1986, Donald Bennett and peakbagger.com. If anyone wants to help (there are about 118 left to do!) it'd be appreciated. Cheers, Nk.sheridan   Talk 21:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

all my stubs need photos if anyone has anything. Probably best to add to wikicommons and link to there. Nk.sheridan   Talk 21:20, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Geograph can be a very good source for suitably licensed photos, although its coverage is less good for Scotland. Suicidalhamster (talk) 22:47, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Hello! I've started to add some more Munro articles, so far Glas Tulaichean and Beinn Bhreac - again these need photos - I've climbed them in cloud unfortunately! I'll continue to make slow but steady progress but am currently targeting hills I am familiar with Nick Ottery (talk) 12:49, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

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Template:Infobox mountain changes[edit]

As some may have noticed I have been updating articles to conform with the new syntax used by {{Infobox mountain}}. As I'm doing this manually with the help of AutoWikiBrowser, I have had the opportunity to look over thousands of articles. There are a few things that might be improved upon. The first is that most articles that fall under the preview of this project use Ordinance Survey grid references rather than global coordinates as we do in North America. I have also noticed that more than a few of articles use the template {{coord}} either in the Infobox mountain template or at the bottom of the page. I assume this is done so that coordinate data appears in the title line of the article so that it can be read by web crawlers.

Currently, when the coord template is use or global coordinate data is entered using the new method, both the OS and the coordinates labels appear even if the coord display parameter is set to title. I will fix this if there is no objection from the members of this project.

There are at least two good reasons to do this:

  1. Entering the global coordinates enables the use of a location map with an automatically generated position marker.
  2. Using my proposed modification would cause the global coordinates entered in the infobox using the new method to display only in the title line only and not in the infobox. This avoids the awkwardness of entering the data at the end of the article page.
  3. If you wish to implement this change I will go through the articles that display your project banner on there talk page and convert data entered using the coordinate template to the new method.

To understand the two different ways of entering global coordinate data see the template documentation. The first uses the template coord and the second uses the latitude and longitude parameters.

I hope that those interested will express there opinion here or on the template talk page. I have some other ideas but one thing at a time. –droll [chat] 03:44, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Moelfre (hill)[edit]

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The article Moelfre (hill) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

unreferenced article with no mention of notability, fails WP:N

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I don't see any other deletion notices than here. This hill is a Marilyn and is mentioned in multiple secondary sources (I added references to two). I believe it clearly meets WP:N. Please do not delete it. —hike395 (talk) 07:25, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Wainwright's Outlying Fells[edit]

None of these are within the project's list of "key mountains" (only Walna Scar cracks 2000ft, and it isn't a Marilyn), but editors interested in the project might be interested in those hills too.

After climbing Black Combe last week I looked in Wikipedia to answer a question: is it the 2nd highest of the Outlying Fells, after Walna Scar, as we thought? No answer.

I found the article The Outlying Fells of Lakeland, which has a list in A-Z order of the summits mentioned in the book, apparently split out in Feb 2008 from an early List of Wainwrights. Some blue links, a lot of red links, and a few unlinked names (from where someone in 2010 had cleaned up the links which pointed to positively wrong places) such as two "The Knott"s. I've now resolved all those unlinked names, creating articles, hatnotes etc as needed to sort out ambiguous names.

There is also a template: {{Outlying Fells}}. In the state where I found it it linked to about 24 summits, mix of red and blue links.

I thought about it and decided that the 56 individual chapters of the book probably constitute Notable hills, and the other summits in the list should become redirects to their chapters, and be mentioned, with height, and bolded, in the articles on those chapters. I also felt that the template should reflect this, and have revamped it to: {{Outlying Fells}}.

I think the list in the main article could usefully be converted into a sortable table, with columns for name, chapter, number of chapter (or page no in book) (to allow sorting into book order which is roughly geographic), height. That would have answered the question which brought me to the whole topic (which the splendid The Database of British and Irish Hills provided when I found it).

For now, I've added the highest and lowest three summits to the article. I've also created articles for quite a few of the redlinked summits/chapters, adding "Howes" as a section of Branstree and adding Circuit of Devoke Water as a section of the existing Devoke Water. Sorted out various dab problems, etc, on the way, as you do. Will continue to work my way through it when the mood inspires.

I recognise that some of these summits are at the margins of notability, but the fact that they're in the LDWA's Hill Walker's Register seems to tip the balance into making it appropriate to have each of the summits given a mention and a redirect in the encyclopedia, though not necessarily its own article, and the chapters of the book seem a reasonable arrangement. I've found photos in Commons, mostly Geograph, for the articles I've done so far.

If you have any sourced encyclopedic content on any of these fells, please expand the articles, or create the ones I haven't yet done.

Any comments? PamD 09:04, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Only one: good work! I think you're going about this in exactly the right way, and a sortable table would be a great improvement. --Stemonitis (talk) 09:08, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for instant kind words! I'm planning to turn all the red links blue first and then work on how to do the table. PamD 09:11, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
I've knocked a table together. I don't have Wainwright's book, so I can't add chapter/page numbers, nor can I tell which names he uses for the summits. It should be straightfoward to add that information, though. --Stemonitis (talk) 10:46, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Well, almost three weeks later, I've now created or upgraded an article for each of the 56 chapters, with redirects from all the named summits. I'll see what I can do with the table, when I get round to it - I really like the idea of being able to sort by chapter, either A-Z or book order, but also want to have dummy entries for major alternative names of summits, and for book chapters which aren't summits. It will come, in time. PamD 15:19, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

And now I think I've finished. Table has the two extra columns, various alternative names are crossreferenced, etc. I hope people will find it useful! PamD 13:04, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

List of Furths[edit]

I've just created this list of Furths and added the link to the relevant navbox. Feel free to check and improve the list and to turn the Irish section into a full table. --Bermicourt (talk) 20:08, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Further to my last (pardon the pun); I've now created Category:Furths and started articles for all the missing Furths (all in Ireland).

The new ones are: Beenkeragh, Caher, Caher West Top, Maolán Bui, The Bones, Cnoc an Chuillin, The Big Gun and Cruach Mhór. Please feel free to expand. --Bermicourt (talk) 21:11, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

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