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Categories for discussion: Former Roman Catholic patriarchates[edit]

Communion and Liberation page[edit]

Hi everyone, I wanted to bring to the attention to this topic, as the current page is biased and very low quality.

In the talk page you'll find more, here there are some problems with the current page:

  • some citations are used instrumentally i.e. they don't contain what's reported on the page (and, since they're all in Italian, this makes things more difficult)
  • some citations are old and information which is now "wrong" (i.e. reporting trial results which change with the final trial result)
  • all citations have a negative perspective on the issue
  • there's talk like "many workers in Italy" and related which is generic and not proper for wikipedia
  • a number of accusations against the subject are stated as facts

I tried to work on the subject, but a user reverted everything back without giving much of an explanations; for comparison here's the current page ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communion_and_Liberation ), and here's my last edit ( https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Communion_and_Liberation&oldid=851445699 ).

Since the user did never answer to the points I've made against the current page status, I think some help/external perspective would be good. Thank you! Best, GioA90GioA90 (talk) 10:45, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Edit warring[edit]

There is edit warring at Political activity of the Catholic Church regarding homosexuality Someone should step in to fix it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.191.44.86 (talk) 18:41, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Francis Ferdinand de Capillas[edit]

There's a discussion going on at Talk:Francis Ferdinand de Capillas#Merge discussion about the merge direction and name of the article. I'm not sure which way it should go, so I'd appreciate some input. Thanks! --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:10, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Pope Francis and Capital Punishment[edit]

This is front page news globally and various articles such as Catholic Church and capital punishment are going to need to be updated. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:29, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Proper titles for McCarrick and Wilson[edit]

Could someone with expertise take a look at the infoboxes for Theodore Edgar McCarrick and Philip Wilson (bishop). At the moment they are identified as "Archbishop Emeritus of Washington" and "8th Archbishop of Adelaide", respectively. Thanks. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 20:02, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

RFC at William Matthews peer review[edit]

There is a peer review open about William Matthews. He was a major figure in the establishment of the Catholic Church in Washington, D.C. I am preparing the article for FA nomination and would very much appreciate any input. Ergo Sum 02:16, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Catholicism-related RfC on Infobox church[edit]

I have proposed adding a number of Catholicism-related parameters and re-ordering a section of Template:Infobox church. Input on the discussion is welcome here. Ergo Sum 01:23, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Religious sister article deleted[edit]

The article Religious sister created on May 29, 2018, was deleted on August 27, 2018, and a redirect instituted to a section of the nun article. I restored the Religious sister article under the new title Religious sister (Catholic). but it was at once nominated for speedy deletion. You can voice your opinion here on whether you think that sisters should retain this article separate from that on nuns. Jzsj (talk) 18:07, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Extra Eyes Needed at Carlo Maria Viganò[edit]

The subject of this BLP is currently involved in a highly publicized controversy involving both the Pope and the Vatican Curia. Not surprisingly the editing on this article has been heavy, and some of it may not be strictly NPOV. Extra eyes from experienced editors would be appreciated. -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:56, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Papal conclave, 1878[edit]

For some reason, the infobox at Papal conclave, 1878 has been changed to reflect something like a presidential election infobox. Would somebody (with the know how) change it back to its original form, consistent with all the other papal conclave articles? GoodDay (talk) 22:17, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Inter Insigniores[edit]

I deem this a very poor quality article. One may as well consider deletion. Opinions?--Neufund (talk) 14:57, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

There is nothing inherently flawed with it as a stub that warrants deletion. The document exists, and the document itself would meets the notability requirements if properly cited to outside sources. Deleting the article makes finding information about the document more difficult, which is antithetical to Wikipedia's mission. At a minimum, it should be merged into list of papal documents and redirected to its entry. Absent the existence of such a list, I would oppose deletion. –Zfish118talk 17:15, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Template title, Latin words[edit]

Greetings, While doing assessments of WP Cath. articles, for Marie-Clémentine Anuarite Nengapeta there is Template:In defensum castitatis. Since I am "Latin ignorant" I'm wondering if an expert could please translate into English. Then put the translation onto the template, perhaps with "*" in title & English words on bottom. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 14:23, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

@JoeHebda: The translations vary, but it can be fairly accurately translated as "In defense of chastity." "Virginity" could also work. I will put the translation in the template. Ergo Sum 02:40, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Cut-and-paste translations[edit]

I have difficulties with some cut-and-paste translation of our friend Jzsj: Jérôme Nadal and Juan de Castillo (Jesuit). In both cases I have the nasty idea that he just copied the text and translated it verbatim, without even bothering to check (and fully translate) the sources. (The second one has a clearly wrong title)

Martyrology is way out of my comfort zone, so I would like it when someone can check and/or improve the articles. The Banner talk 17:45, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

RfC on Featured Article nomination[edit]

I have nominated William Matthews (priest) for Featured Article status, and it is currently under review here. The article failed once before for failure to generate enough comments. I believe it is very close to FA, and meets all the criteria. Any further input would be greatly appreciated. Ergo Sum 04:51, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Bishops and Dioceses in China[edit]

This morning there was an announcement regarding a number of Bishops in China being recognized by the Holy See. After the related agreement that was also announced today, there will likely be official recognition of a number of jurisdictional adjustments and existing bishops over the coming days, weeks, and months. Dcheney (talk) 13:03, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

The article Catholic Church in China needs improved quality to make ITN[edit]

The article Catholic Church in China is currently receiving lots of support on grounds of notability to be included as an In the News item on our main page, but it still requires a lot of work to bring it up to the necessary quality.Tlhslobus (talk) 02:44, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

RfC on Dissent from Catholic teaching on homosexuality[edit]

There is a Request for Comment on Talk:Dissent from Catholic teaching on homosexuality#Request for comment on the church teaching section. The thoughts and opinions of others would be most welcome there. --BrianCUA (talk) 03:24, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Saint Dismas Prison Ministry[edit]

A discussion is taking place on whether to retain the article on the national organization Saint Dismas Prison Ministry, and on what might be properly included in the article. Jzsj (talk) 12:03, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Or better: do we keep the present neutral version, do we make it into a promo affair or do we merge it into another article. The Banner talk 13:38, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Most Holy Trinity Seminary for deletion[edit]

I have nominated Most Holy Trinity Seminary for deletion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Most Holy Trinity Seminary (2nd nomination). Is anyone with detailed knowledge of Traditional Catholicism schismatic groups in the US able to contribute to the discussion? I nominated the article because I don't think there is sufficient coverage of this institution in reliable sources for this article to be kept, but maybe someone here might be aware of sources I am not? Thank you. SJK (talk) 10:59, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Catholic v. Roman Catholic in article text[edit]

Since it affects this project and I know not everyone watches the Christianity noticeboard, but there’s currently an informal discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Christianity/Noticeboard#Time_for_a_formal_agreement on the Catholic vs. Roman Catholic issue. About prose this time, not article titles. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:24, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Controversial film Kler (The Clergy) by Polish director Wojciech Smarzowski needs article[edit]

We should have an article for the controversial film Kler (The Clergy) by Polish director Wojciech Smarzowski.

Wojciech Smarzowski's new controversial drama Clergy, about the Catholic Church in Poland, had over 935,000 admissions during the premiere release weekend, breaking the record for the best opening of a Polish film in the last 30 years.

https://www.filmneweurope.com/news/poland-news/item/117090-smarzowski-s-clergy-breaks-polish-box-office-record

A film depicting Polish clerics as corrupt, drunken fornicators and paedophiles is smashing box office records in Poland, sparking controversy and encouraging hundreds of people to come forward with allegations of recent and historical abuse.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/15/polish-film-the-clergy-sparks-hundreds-of-allegations-of-abuse-kler-catholic

Whatever you think of this film, it certainly meets notability guidelines.

We currently have a redlink Clergy (film) in our article Wojciech Smarzowski.

We should decide whether our article should be at Clergy (film) or The Clergy (film).

[Edit] More discussion at

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Atheism#Controversial_film_Kler_(The_Clergy)_by_Polish_director_Wojciech_Smarzowski_needs_article

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Film#Controversial_film_Kler_(The_Clergy)_by_Polish_director_Wojciech_Smarzowski_needs_article

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Poland#Controversial_film_Kler_(The_Clergy)_by_Polish_director_Wojciech_Smarzowski_needs_article

[ edit - 189.122.52.73 (talk) 20:58, 15 October 2018 (UTC) ]

- 189.122.52.73 (talk) 20:50, 15 October 2018 (UTC)