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Work dates in Navboxes[edit]

Important conversation going on at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Templates#Consistent_formatting_of_template_titles_for_navboxes_of_literary_works: please join, 15:30, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Two new articles on children's book illustrators.[edit]

Hello! While art biography is not my specialty, I recently created Thomas Crane (1843–1903) (DYK nom) and Millicent Sowerby (DYK nom), English illustrators of children's books and greeting cards. If anyone has additional resources or knowledge, feel free to contribute! --Animalparty-- (talk) 23:44, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi Animalparty, nice job, very nice pages. I probably do have sources for both articles, but will wait until they clear DYK to add anything. Victoria (tk) 01:24, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

A mystery regarding "H. H. Emmerson"[edit]

In the interest of not inadvertently building a Frankenstein, I am trying to conclusively determine if Henry Hetherington Emmerson, known as a painter in all sources I can find, is the same person as "H. H. Emmerson", the author/co-artist of Afternoon Tea: a book of new rhymes for children, discussed under Under the Window#Imitation. I am about 90% sure these are the same person, but from the sources I can view, some discuss only the paintings, while others discuss only the children's book (or only mention name), and neither the twain meet. There is circumstantial evidence that these are the same person (e.g. WorldCat birth and death date) but would prefer a reliable source that unambiguously connects the dots (e.g. "H. H. Emmerson, a painter from Cullercoats, also illustrated the children's books X, Y and Z..."). I have a hunch that clarity may lie in Under the Window and Afternoon Tea: "Twirling the Same Blade of Grass", which is behind a paywall. Any enlightenment greatly appreciated. Cheers. --Animalparty-- (talk) 21:43, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

@Animalparty:, here's what seems to be the relevant section of the article you cited:

One book, both derivative and experimental, was Afternoon Tea, by J. G. Sowerby and H. H. Emmerson, published in 1880 by the rival firm, Frederick Warne, once a partner to George Routledge and then his chief competitor in children's book publishing. Among a horde of imitations, this is the only one mentioned in Spielmann and Layard's 1905 biography, [End Page 47] in Rodney Engen's 1981 biography, and in Edmund Evans's Reminiscences. Evans writes: "Immediately this novelty in style was imitated by several artists who ought to have known better; some actually copied parts of the figures from Under the Window and took the head of one to add to the figure of another, thinking not to be found out. One fairly well-known artist from the North of England wanted me to buy a copy of a book he had drawn, painted, and I believe written the verses, calling the book Afternoon Tea. Of course I could have nothing to do with such a barefaced copy of K. G.'s book. It was, of course, bought and published by another firm of publishers and soon got classed among the "Kate Greenaway Books" which flooded the booksellers' shops for years to come."

Not a super definitive answer but it does call the Afternoon Tea Emmerson "a fairly well known artist from the North of England." Fyddlestix (talk) 22:18, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
thanks for that, and I have found other sources that conclusively connect the two. --Animalparty-- (talk) 02:38, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Category:Children's book illustrators[edit]

Moments ago at WP:WikiProject Categories, I illustrated one "problem" by the example of Category:Children's book illustrators.

See WT:CATP#Misuse of Container categories? --flushleft and now at the bottom of that very long section. --P64 (talk) 16:49, 26 June 2015 (UTC)