Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Christian music/Sources
- Excellent job with this, HotHat. You've got almost all RSes on the topic I can think of here! The only suggestion I would add would be UPTV.com - formerly Gospel Music Channel.com. They haven't reviewed as much material lately, but given that is a major television channel in the CCM industry, it might be worth adding. Toa Nidhiki05 15:13, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
- I'll add that.
Might I also suggest retitling this page as simply "Sources", so as not to limit it just to reviews?--¿3family6 contribs 16:12, 13 July 2013 (UTC) Never mind that second part. I'm assuming this list will merge with Wikipedia:WikiProject Christian music/Sources?--¿3family6 contribs 16:45, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
- I'll add that.
- Sources is of a higher quality than just music review sources, so we have to be very careful if we are going to merge. I like having them be two standalone articles, but that is just me.HotHat (talk) 06:06, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
I mentioned this on the main project discussion, but I'll restate here with further comments: Gospel music needs inclusion as a category. For that matter, R&B and urban, classical, jazz, country, and electronic should also be considered. For publications like Cross Rhythms and Christianity Today which deal with every style, a simple "all" should suffice.--¿3family6 contribs 16:30, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
- We have a tremendous ammount of resources to use now, so I except more higher quality articles pertaining to this genre of music, such as albums, songs, biographies/band/artist pages. Furthermore, I think critical reception sections should be a cinch.HotHat (talk) 03:22, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- I do think we should include it, but only under self published sources.HotHat (talk) 23:53, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- I should have clarified in my initial post that while it is DJ Wade-O's site, he has a full staff team, and much, if not most, of the writing is not by him.--¿3family6 contribs 00:43, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Expand to include charts?
I think a good idea here would be, if there were a consensus for it, to expand to include which singles charts are acceptable. CCM is rather unique in that it has had three major singles charts over a relatively short timespan, meaning it might be confusing to some editors. I propose including the following, with disclaimers:
- CCM Magazine charts - Chart histories are not available online; they are only available in individual magazines and the out-of-print Hot Hits books by Jeffery Lee Brothers. CCM charts were monthly from July 1978 to September 1986, bi-weekly from September 1986 to June 1992, and weekly from June 1992 to April 15, 2002, when the charts and data were turned over to Radio and Records. CCM Magazine is reliable for pre-Radio & Records charts, and was the only magazine to publish CCM charts from 1978 to 2002.
- Radio & Records charts - Chart histories are not directly accessible online, but many chart weeks can be found in web archives such as the Wayback Machine. R&R charts were weekly, and were published from April 15, 2005 until June 2009, when the magazine was shuttered. R&R charts are reliable and a good accompaniment for the Billboard charts, especially in regards to the Christian CHR, INSPO, and Christian Rock formats, which Billboard did not cover.
- Billboard charts - Chart histories are available online. Billboard began covering CCM singles with the creation of the Christian Songs and Hot Christian AC charts on June 21, 2003. After the shuttering of R&R in 2009, Billboard took over publication of the Christian CHR, INSPO, and Christian rock charts.
It might be worth it to note which members own the Hot Hits books, so users can find the information quicker; I own the Adult Contemporary charts book, but not the CHR book. Toa Nidhiki05 00:17, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- In the UK, it is Cross Rhythms.HotHat (talk) 00:20, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
The Sound Opinion
- If there is editorial oversight for what each contributor writes, then it certainly is passable. If not, then the authors qualify as self-published sources. They do have some impeccable credentials.--¿3family6 contribs 02:29, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- I still think it should be merged with the Sources article. Many of the entries are duplicates, making these pages prime targets for merging. Sources are either reliable or they aren't.--¿3family6 contribs 02:27, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- I will work on that, but I think we could merge this to Wikipedia:WikiProject Christian music/Sources (current), for this list, and put the other at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christian music/Sources (archived). This is so that we can keep the other links to sources because that kind of information should not ever be lost. I like the disambiguation better because it solves the titling issues.HotHat (talk) 06:53, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- An archive is precisely what I had in mind. Archive all of the reference documentation, and then put in a link to the effect of "to see previous research demonstrating reliability" (hopefully better worded than that).--¿3family6 contribs 12:06, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Archive of old source research
Where to put this website
CMNexus is a great resource - you can search an artist and find print and online reviews for their albums, as well as won awards and news articles. Where should this go on this page? Toa Nidhiki05 13:38, 10 April 2016 (UTC)