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It has probably been noticed by most of the editors who frequent this page that there is often a pronounced degree of overlap between the various projects relating to Christianity. Given that overlap, and the rather large amount of content we have related to the subject of Christianity, it has been proposed that the various Christianity projects select a group of coordinators who would help ensure the cooperation of the various projects as well as help manage some project related activities, such as review, assessment, portal management, and the like. Preferably, we would like to consider the possibility of having one party from each of the major Christianity projects included, given the degree of specialization which some of the articles contain. We now are accepting nominations for the coordinators positions at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/Coordinators/Election 1. Any parties interested in helping performing some of the management duties of the various Christianity projects is encouraged to nominate themselves there. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 17:39, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Much to my surprise, the period for the factual elections of the new coordinators has started a bit earlier than I expected. For what it's worth, as the "instigator" of the proposed coordinators, the purpose of having them is not to try to impose any sort of "discipline" on the various projects relating to Christianity, but just to ensure that things like assessment, peer review, portal maintainance, and other similar directly project-related functions get peformed for all the various projects relating to Christianity. If there are any individuals with this project who are already doing such activities for the project, and who want to take on the role more formally, I think nominations are being held open until the end of the elections themselves. And, for the purposes of this election, any member in good standing of any of the Christianity projects can either be nominated or express their votes at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/Coordinators/Election 1. Thank you for your attention. John Carter (talk) 00:29, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

User box[edit]

{{User Methodism work group‎}} makes:

John Wesley This user is a member of Methodism Work Group

--Secisek (talk) 08:11, 1 April 2008 (UTC)


Why is the bot not generating assements? -- Secisek (talk) 19:58, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

scope query[edit]

Are denominations that split from, but are no longer, a Methodist denomination in scope for this group? If not, please revise the tagging at Talk:Church of God (Holiness). GRBerry 16:05, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


How is content "recognised"? I mean, GAs, DYKs, et al. per the Wikiproject page? WilyD 20:15, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

DYK is in many ways the low end of recognition - it recognizes well sourced new articles. See Wikipedia:Did you know#How a DYK suggestion makes its way to the Main Page and The DYK Rules. Good articles are decent articles that mostly cover their topic. See Wikipedia:Good articles Featured articles have been evaluated as among the best articles on Wikipedia. See Wikipedia:Featured articles. GRBerry 20:25, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
No, I know that. I mean, what's the criterion for including articles as "recognised" as Methodism work group GAs, DYKs, et al. Should I list Peter Jones (missionary) as a DYK? Any Joe Methodist that's GA as a GA? WilyD 21:50, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Those lists serve two good and one debatable purposes. One is to provide content that can be used for a current or future Methodism portal. A second is to provide work group editors with examples of good content to use in guiding their work or discussions with others. The debatable purpose is project bragging rights. For both of the first two purposes, any article in the work group's scope is useful, so I encourage it. Joe Methodist, who happens to be a methodist probably doesn't belong in the project scope merely for being a methodist; if he belongs it is because his encyclopedic significance is related to Methodism. Examples of such significance could include (and do go beyond) being a Methodist minsiter, evangelist, theologian, outside scholar known for studies of Methodism, led a split away from Methodism, or an early prominent opponent that helped shape Methodism by their opposition. GRBerry 21:58, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
OKay, thanks. WilyD 22:09, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Review Requested[edit]

Hey, I'm going to nominate Peter Jones (missionary) for GA status in a couple of days, and I was wondering if someone familiar with Methodism could look it over and see that I've got all the details right on that account, terminology right, wikilinks lead to the ideal articles, et cetera. I'd be much oblidged. WilyD 13:30, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme[edit]

As you may have heard, we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level. The new description is available at WP:ASSESS.

  • The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
  • The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
  • A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.

Each WikiProject should already have a new C-Class category at Category:C-Class_articles. If your project elects not to use the new level, you can simply delete your WikiProject's C-Class category and clarify any amendments on your project's assessment/discussion pages. The bot is already finding and listing C-Class articles.

Please leave a message with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme. This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year. Thanks for using the Wikipedia 1.0 scheme! For the 1.0 Editorial Team, §hepBot (Disable) 22:06, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Simple English Wikipedia[edit]

The editors at the simple English wikipedia have requested some help in developing some of their content. Right now, they don't have much relating to Methodism. All I can see, in fact, are simple:Methodism, simple:Primitive Methodist Church, simple:Wesleyan University, simple:George Whitefield, and simple:John Wesley. Anyone interested in developing some of the content there is more than welcome to do so. Either I, User:American Eagle, or User:Eptalon might be able to help in "learning the ropes" in that wiki. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 21:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

I just made a several minor improvements to simple:Methodism, including a link to the article on John Wesley, and removing the misleading term "former" concerning Wesley's priesthood in the Anglican Church. --Haruo (talk) 16:42, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Methodism work group[edit]

Wikipedia 0.7 is a collection of English Wikipedia articles due to be released on DVD, and available for free download, later this year. The Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team has made an automated selection of articles for Version 0.7.

We would like to ask you to review the articles selected from this project. These were chosen from the articles with this project's talk page tag, based on the rated importance and quality. If there are any specific articles that should be removed, please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.7. You can also nominate additional articles for release, following the procedure at Wikipedia:Release Version Nominations.

A list of selected articles with cleanup tags, sorted by project, is available. The list is automatically updated each hour when it is loaded. Please try to fix any urgent problems in the selected articles. A team of copyeditors has agreed to help with copyediting requests, although you should try to fix simple issues on your own if possible.

We would also appreciate your help in identifying the version of each article that you think we should use, to help avoid vandalism or POV issues. These versions can be recorded at this project's subpage of User:SelectionBot/0.7. We are planning to release the selection for the holiday season, so we ask you to select the revisions before October 20. At that time, we will use an automatic process to identify which version of each article to release, if no version has been manually selected. Thanks! For the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial team, SelectionBot 22:42, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Help with a featured article candidate?[edit]

Can I call attention to Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Peter Jones (missionary)? I would appreciate it if someone familiar with Methodism could review it and make sure I got all the details about that right. Thankee, WilyD 00:28, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Discussion regarding project organization[edit]

Any comments regarding the structure and function of Christianity related material are welcome at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/General Forum#Project organization. Be prepared for some rather lengthy comments, though. There is a lot of material to cover there. John Carter (talk) 17:37, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

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I think someone should be aware of an article update that is considered to be of top importance to the Methodist Work Group. I don't know if this is the place to let it be known, but I would appreciate it if others in the group would read this update on The Conditional Preservation of the Saints. It went from 28,000 bytes to 48,000 bytes. The reasons for the update can be found on the discussion page for those interested. Blessings, Steve Witzki SWitzki98.145.232.112 (talk) 04:57, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Requested move: Maundy Thursday to Holy Thursday[edit]

There is a request to move Maundy Thursday (talk) to Holy Thursday; see discussion. —Angr 20:24, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Consultation on renaming article: Roman Catholic Church --> Catholic Church[edit]

Wikipedians at Talk:Roman Catholic Church are discussing the merits of changing the article name as such.
Roman Catholic ChurchCatholic Church. Please share your opinions there. --Carlaude talk 12:02, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Circuit rider (religious) merge discussion[edit]

Please see the discussion at Circuit rider (religious). It has been suggested that this article be merged with the circuit preacher article. Sswonk (talk) 16:50, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Coordinator elections[edit]

Any parties interested in being one of the coordinators of WikiProject Christianity and its various related projects is encouraged to list themselves as a candidate at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/Coordinators/Election 2. It would be particularly beneficial if we had individuals from as broad a range of areas of the project as possible, to help ensure that we have people knowledgable about the widest range of content possible. John Carter (talk) 20:43, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Ordination of United Methodist Women[edit]

This page has some rather serious concerns. Any help in improving the article would be greatly appreciated. John Carter (talk) 20:30, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Need Help with Adding Pictures to Revised Article[edit]


The "Conditional Preservation of the Saints" article, which is of Top Importance to the Methodist Work Group, has been significantly updated. I need help from someone in the group with putting three pictures into the article. I would do it, but I don't know how. Could someone please help me out? It would be much appreciated. Thanks,SWitzki (talk) 18:07, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Christianity portals[edit]

I am currently trying to get together some lists of articles relevant to each Christianity-related portal which could be used, at least potentially, to help bring all the extant portals up to Featured Portal status. The current, admittedly incomplete, list of articles, images, etc., relevant to each portal can be found at User:John Carter/Christianity portals. I also think that, at least in theory, we would probably best use a single article only in a single portal, and that we probably have enough articles to do that, although there might be a few exceptions. I would welcome input from anyone on the associated talk page regarding which articles and other materials they would like to see associated with which portal(s), any suggestions for additional portals or changes to existing portals, etc. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 15:31, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Possible change in scope of group[edit]

Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Christianity#Potential changes in subprojects regarding a proposal to change the scope of this project. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 15:18, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

FAR notice[edit]

I have nominated Duke University for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Dana boomer (talk) 21:46, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Prayer shawl in Methodism[edit]

I came across the article Prayer shawl, which says these are common in Methodist churches. If so, would anyone knowledgeable care to comment on Talk:Prayer shawl. I'm asking if this is similar to the Pentecostal concept of "prayer cloth". Thanks. Ltwin (talk) 04:13, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Syracuse University[edit]

Hello! There is a discussion that concerns Syracuse University's affiliation with The United Methodist Church here. Input here would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. With regards, AnupamTalk 04:21, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Proposed redirection of Christianity subproject talk pages[edit]

I have recently started discussion about possibly eliminating the use of a separate talk page for it here. Input from any interested editors is very welcome and encouraged. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 22:14, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Heritage Day[edit]

I notice the article on Aldersgate Day refers to its co-occurrence with Heritage Day, but does not explain the latter, nor link to it. This Heritage Day does not appear to be any of the ones that have wp-en articles. As a Baptist, I have no idea what is meant by this. I just got an email from the music folks at GBOD warning of worship burnout owing to the simultaneity of these two commemorations as well as the less specifically Methodist Ascension Sunday. --Haruo (talk) 16:30, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Help category issue please[edit]

Hi, I just joined the Methodism wg. I was trying to add the category
Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/Methodism work group/Articles
to my recent article Seth Mokitimi but HotCat won't recognise it.
Help please? David_FLXD (Talk) 06:04, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi. The category you tried linking to isn't really meant to be used by articles, it's only an index for the work group. I see that Seth Mokitimi is categorised under Category:20th-century Methodist clergy and Category:South African Methodists‎, and that seems fine to me. I've just been looking at the article‎ and it's an interesting read and really well sourced for a new article. Hope this helps.-- -- Peter Talk page 15:40, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

New article please assess[edit]

Hi, I have added an article on controversial South African Methodist (ex)Bishop Paul Verryn. I am confident that it is at least Start class, but am uncertain of its importance. It is only a bio, so I would usually say "low", but then because of the controversy perhaps it should be "mid", as it offers accurate information where accusations have left ugly questions about a Methodist minister. Please have a look and see what you think. David_FLXD (Talk) 06:02, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi David. Good article, I've just been reading through and it's made me want to read more about this particular person. I hadn't previously heard off him, or at least not remembered. As for importance; on a worldwide scale I'd say this particular biography is 'low'. Mid-importance biographies are usually limited to leaders of denominations, at least. Hope the article is expanded though, good read. ---- Peter Talk page 13:41, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Need input at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Richard Bassett (clergyman)[edit]

I've suggested merging of this fellow, but this could use people who are more familiar with the Methodism articles to take a look. Mangoe (talk) 13:48, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Methodist clergy -> Methodist ministers[edit]

Please see Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2013_June_5#Category:Methodist_clergyFayenatic London 18:18, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

There is now a second opportunity to comment on this at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 January 16#Category:Methodist clergy by denomination. – Fayenatic London 19:01, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

The American Methodism Project[edit]

A lot of articles might be better documented with this rich source of thousands of public domain resources, expertly curated:

"The American Methodism Project". Partnership between the United Methodist-related seminary libraries, the Internet Archive, the United Methodist Commission on Archives and History, and the Methodist Librarians Fellowship.  External link in |publisher= (help) Almost 4,000 public domain publications available for download or reading online.

Already added above to Primary sources section in History of Methodism in the United States -- Paulscrawl (talk) 18:08, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Proposal to move Methodism to Child Project[edit]

Per Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Methodism Jerodlycett (talk) 09:40, 4 March 2015 (UTC)