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Other Sam Pittmans[edit]

The fact that Sam Pittman didn't have an article prior to his hiring shaped the narrative surrounding that hire a little (a little, not a lot). I think he was probably notable prior to the hiring; all the sources I used were published well prior and there were plenty more out there. I do think Arkansas surprised folks a bit. That said, are there other Pittmans out there? Long-time coordinators who pass the GNG and might get tapped for a head job? Mackensen (talk) 02:27, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

IDK about creating new articles, but there's an article sitting at AfD right now for a long-time college and NFL assistant coach at Steve Marshall (American football). Ejgreen77 (talk) 06:46, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
And now, there's another one here, Charlie Ragle. Ejgreen77 (talk) 22:03, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

AfD: Jamie Howard[edit]

An article for Jamie Howard, former starting QB at LSU, was created today and nominated for deletion. Please see the discussion here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jamie Howard. Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 16:27, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

If anyone is looking for a similar improvement project, Fred Haynes is another former starting QB at LSU whose article was deleted as a likely copyright violation (the only significant contributor has been indefinitely banned for massive copyright violations here) after the article had been up for 13 years. I can e-mail the contents to a non-admin for a starting point if requested, but keep in mind the entire page needs to be rewritten. Eagles 24/7 (C) 17:07, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

AfD: List of LSU Tigers football College Football Playoff rankings and Poll history[edit]

There is a discussion in which you might be interested at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of LSU Tigers football College Football Playoff rankings and Poll history. UW Dawgs (talk) 02:47, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Mike Kelly (gridiron football)[edit]

There's a dispute going on at Mike Kelly (gridiron football), former head coach at Valdosta State and Widener who was fired from his job as head coach of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers of the CFL following a domestic incident and arrest. This issue has been ongoing for some time as Mike Kelly himself has edited the page in the past and again recently to remove reference to the incident/arrest. The issue is being discussed now at Wikipedia:Help desk#Deleting my biography. The discussion could use some more input to determine the aptness of the controversial content. Jweiss11 (talk) 20:01, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

AFCs to review[edit]

Hello, there are a few college football-related drafts that were submitted and rejected at WP:AFC that could use a look and/or improvement:

Thanks! Eagles 24/7 (C) 17:21, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

All three pass WP:GNG, and I have added sourcing. Cbl62 (talk) 02:36, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
Cbl, thanks for sourcing. I moved all three to main space and did some cleanup. Jweiss11 (talk) 04:03, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the help! Eagles 24/7 (C) 16:07, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
Couple more that were created by the same IP: Draft:1976 Colorado State Rams football team and Draft:1999 Dartmouth Big Green football team. Eagles 24/7 (C) 03:34, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Charlie Jackson (American football coach)[edit]

There's an IP editor making unproductive edits to Charlie Jackson (American football coach). Please take a look. Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 15:52, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

@Bagumba: should we semi-protect this article? Jweiss11 (talk) 15:58, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
I blocked the IP 24 hours for edit warring. Can you look into the legitimacy of the coaching timeline edits in the infobox? Eagles 24/7 (C) 16:00, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
Eagles247, thanks for taking action. The edits the IP was making to the timeline in the infobox were factually correct, just misplaced and mis-formatted. It should stand now as it stands per my last edit by making use of the admin fields. Jweiss11 (talk) 16:04, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
I missed that, thanks! Eagles 24/7 (C) 16:16, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Deletion review of Melila Purcell[edit]

Hello. This is a notification that there is a deletion review for Melila Purcell that you may be interested in participating in at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2019 December 28. The article was deleted after this AFD. Eagles 24/7 (C) 00:47, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Category:Central College Dutch[edit]

I have nominated Category:Central College Dutch and its subcategories for renaming. Please see the discussion here. Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 22:48, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

AfD: Charlie Ragle[edit]

Charlie Ragle, current special teams coordinator for California, who also won some high school state titles is up for deletion. Please see the discussion here. @Mackensen: Ragle could be another "Sam Pittman". Jweiss11 (talk) 22:47, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

2020 SMU Mustangs football team[edit]

An IP changed this page from a redirect (to SMU Mustangs football) to an article. I'm hoping someone will either clean it up or make it a redirect again. I don't know what is standard procedure regarding notability for an article like this. Johnuniq (talk) 08:53, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

@Johnuniq: I cleaned it up a bit; the American Athletic Conference hasn't released their conference schedule yet so the whole thing can't be added, but it looks a little better now. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 13:41, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
Perfect, thanks. Johnuniq (talk) 23:04, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Use of "present" in coach and executive navboxes[edit]

There's a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Football League#Use of "present" in coach and executive navboxes that implicates several hundred navboxes for college football and more. The discussion could use more input. Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 01:57, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

AfD: Peter Najarian[edit]

There is an open AfD that the members of this project may be interested in, please see here. Ejgreen77 (talk) 02:26, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

School rushing leaders templates[edit]

Are we having school-by-school rushing leaders templates now? I just saw Template:Michigan Wolverines football rushing leaders navbox, created by Cbl62 and edited by Jweiss11. I have never seen such a template. Is this the next wave?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:03, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

I think its WP:TCREEP for the many accomplished NFL backs that will get yet another nav. Lists are fine for major programs—throw them in a "see also".—Bagumba (talk) 12:19, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
How many schools have this template type?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:55, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
I created them for USC, Alabama, and Michigan -- all schools with long histories of great running backs. I have long believed we need some tool to allow us to navigate between a major program's running backs. We have navboxes for quarterbacks, and the argument for doing it for running backs is IMO equally strong. The QB and the RB are the driving forces of an offense and the glory positions filled with great and notable players. Cbl62 (talk) 14:59, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
The navboxes can be seen here: Template:Michigan Wolverines football rushing leaders navbox, Template:USC Trojans football rushing leaders navbox, Template:Alabama Crimson Tide football rushing leaders navbox. Cbl62 (talk) 15:01, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
For players like Ted Kress, Tony Branoff, Fred Baer, Russell Davis, Harlan Huckleby, Lawrence Ricks, Rick Rogers, Tony Boles, Jon Vaughn, Ricky Powers, B. J. Askew, Brandon Minor, and dozens more, being a major program's lead rusher is a career-defining characteristic -- and results in absolutely no navbox clutter. Moreover, I've never really understood the argument that a "See also" section linking to a "List of Team X rushing leaders" creates any less clutter than a collapsible navbox. Cbl62 (talk) 15:07, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
"See also" is a worst-case scenario. Ideally, just link directly in the article where it says "led the Roadrunners in rushing". Moreover, if the link was important and not already in the article, you'd want it in "see also" because the 50+% (and growing) of readers using mobile devices don't even see navboxes.—Bagumba (talk) 17:08, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Tony, thanks for opening the discussion here. I’m not a fan of these navboxes and voiced my concern about them with Cbl when he created them last week. I’m with Bagumba here on the navbox creep. Jweiss11 (talk) 17:22, 20 January 2020 (UTC)