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WikiProject Council
WikiProject icon This page relates to the WikiProject Council, a collaborative effort regarding WikiProjects in general. If you would like to participate, please visit the project discussion page.
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An MFD to consider[edit]

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/File talk:Nexstar Logo.jpg - more of a metaquestion on project tags on files moved to commons. Agathoclea (talk) 12:47, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Request to delete older versions of Women in Red barnstar designs[edit]

The WikiProject Women in Red team were working on a barnstar, and decided on final versions of a plain barnstar, and a barnstar with laurels. We would like to have the older versions deleted from Commons so they are not used by mistake. I don't know the process for deleting files from Commons. If you know of an admin on Commons that could please delete the files listed below, that would be terrific. Or if you could point me in the right direction (with directions) to do so myself, I will. These are the files that need deleting:

WIR Barnstar5.jpg (uploaded by Netherzone at 16:400, 8 February 2017) WIR Barnstar4.jpg (uploaded by Netherzone at 15:50, 8 February 2017) WIR Barnstar3.jpg (uploaded by Netherzone at 15:40, 8 February 2017) WIR Barnstar2.jpg (uploaded by Netherzone at 04:48, 7 February 2017)

Many thanks in advance. Netherzone (talk) 15:44, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Help for WikiProject Sia?[edit]

Is someone familiar with setting up WikiProjects (specifically, quality assessment and WikiProject banners) able to take a look at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Sia#Coding_help and see if the assessment categories are correct. There is also a discrepancy between the "Sia"-related and "Sia-Furler"-related categories. Thanks in advance to anyone who may be able to take a look. ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:05, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 10[edit]

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Issue 10 of the WikiProject X newsletter is here!

This month, we discuss the new CollaborationKit extension. Here's an image as a teaser:

CollaborationKit screenshot CreateCollaborationHub.png

23:59, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Pages that are NOT yet in a WikiProject?[edit]

Hello all - Please forgive me if this has been addressed elsewhere, but does anyone know if there is a link that identifies all articles, categories, etc., that are NOT yet part of a WikiProject? Thanks KConWiki (talk) 03:10, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

@KConWiki: I don't think we currently have an automatic tracking system for that. Though the database scanner in AWB may be of use to you in finding those pages. You can do database scans without registering, but to edit the encyclopedia with AWB, you have to be registered. To qualify to register to use AWB on Wikipedia, you have to have 500 main space edits. If you do, then go to Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/AutoWikiBrowser, and an admin will add you to the checkpage. The Transhumanist 19:29, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

There should be a way to assess quality for articles that do not fall under any WikiProject's purview. (Perhaps the WPBS should hold quality ratings and all talk pages should hold a WPBS) -- (talk) 06:57, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Default parameters in WP banners?[edit]

Should WikiProject Banners have defaults for class and importance settings?

I noticed a particular project default sets its importance to "mid" if you don't explicitly set it. This seems to make a hash of importance settings, rendering them useless.

-- (talk) 03:51, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

No. Null is a useful value, in that it tells us that an assessment has not yet been made, which may prompt a user to make one. Automatically filling in default values would mass produce false assessments, and that's bad. Now, if you created a deep learning AI that assessed articles' quality and improved its ability via training, then that's another matter. The Transhumanist 09:58, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
I've opened a discussion at Template talk:WikiProject Highways about the Default Importance rating (default=MID); -- (talk) 06:58, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Consensus to remove banner for inactive WIkiProjects[edit]

I just wonder if there was consensus to remove banners for inactive WikiProjects? See Christian75 (talk) 20:49, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

That seems a bad idea, since the banner already says "inactive", and if it ever became active again, people would need to go through and retag all the articles -- (talk) 02:56, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
It's also problematic because the banners (and associated categories) are important infrastructure for WikiProjects to determine what's in their "scope." It would only make sense to remove the banners if the WikiProject as a whole was being decommissioned.
I don't think the problem is inactive projects having banners per se. It's the banners themselves: they're noisy and obtrusive. I hope in the long term we build off of the work of the PageAssessments extension and build a specialized tool for tracking WIkiProject assessments. Harej (talk) 00:07, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

@Christian75: Thanks for staring this discussion. I was wondering the same thing. I don't like disappearing project banners. I've still been adding "WikiProject Sculpture" to talk pages even though the banner does not display. ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:25, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Another issue is, what constitutes an inactive project. I personally use the bot output of a number of "inactive" projects for editing ideas. So while there is no chatter there is activity. Removing the assessment markers would be a detriment. Agathoclea (talk) 07:43, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
@Christian75, Another Believer, Harej, and Agathoclea: I agree with Agathoclea. There is also decentralized WikiProject activity. Quality assessment gets updated on each article's talk page. So if assessment is active, then by extension so is the WikiProject that set it up. And as Agathoclea mentioned, the same can be said for any WikiProject with automation. Many WikiProjects have an an automatic alert system (for announcing AfD's, etc.). The Tip of the Day project automatically posts its content day after day all over the 'pedia, and it can be months between posts on its talk page. Proofreaders have a template with which they can monitor the tip for the next day, and they can edit the tip directly before it goes live, without ever posting to the project's talk page. I believe WikiProjects with assessments or automated functions should never be tagged with "inactive". The Transhumanist 19:46, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
Yes, this is a good point. And if I'm still adding "WikiProject Sculpture" banners to talk pages as often as I deem appropriate, is WikiProject Sculpture really dead? ---Another Believer (Talk) 02:17, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
I think the scope argument is the strongest for keeping the WikiProject banners in place. They provide meta-data. The banners serve as broad subject tagging for articles, which can be very useful for automated processes. They are more encompassing than the narrower subject-based category links. Please keep them in place. The Transhumanist 09:40, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Wikimedia Movement Strategy[edit]

Hi all. I'd like to invite you to participate in the Wikimedia Movement Strategy discussions, about our movement's overall goals, "What do we want to build or achieve together over the next 15 years?". It's currently in the first stage, of broad discussion. There are further details in the related Metawiki pages (FAQ, lists of other simultaneous communities' discussions, etc).

I've posted at a few of the largest WikiProjects, but please do direct anyone you think might be interested, to the discussion. (Also, if you're interested in helping facilitate and summarize the discussions here, and to bring back here the summaries of what the other communities are discussing, over the weeks ahead, please let me know. Thanks. :) Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 01:03, 23 March 2017 (UTC)