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Coordinators' working group[edit]

Hi! I'd like to draw your attention to the new WikiProject coordinators' working group, an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate. This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators. All designated project coordinators are invited to join this working group. If your project hasn't formally designated any editors as coordinators, but you are someone who regularly deals with coordination tasks in the project, please feel free to join as well. — Delievered by §hepBot (Disable) on behalf of the WikiProject coordinators' working group at 05:14, 28 February 2009 (UTC)



Just to let you know - Igor Stravinsky is missing from the topic 'Ballet Composers'. Quite an important man to miss out!

Grace (talk) 11:19, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Teacher/Mentor field for Infobox dancer[edit]

The importance of the dance teacher cannot be underestimated. Tracing the "family tree" of dancers is of utmost importance.

For example, Benjamin Millepied was mentored by Jerome Robbins, who in turn learnt ballet with Ella Daganova, Antony Tudor and Eugene Loring. Eugene Loring was coached by Balanchine, who was the student of Pavel Gerdt. Gerdt was the student of Christian Johansson, Alexander Pimenov (himself a pupil of the legendary Charles Didelot), and with Jean-Antoine Petipa and so on.

Now, all the information is in Wikipedia, but it's not in the infobox. I think that making this information quickly accessible using the infobox is an important tool for people trying to learn about dance styles, influences, dance history, and more.

Would it make sense to add a Teacher/Mentor (any other suggestion?) field to the Infobox dancer template? This will enable users to quickly move up the chain of "dance teachers". It would be immensely useful to users. How does one go about this? Thanks!

Masala Dosa (talk) 09:24, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Masala Dosa, I'm not saying it's impossible (noting this kind of mentor relationship makes more sense for dancers than it does a lot of other types artist or professional) but there are a lot of potential problems here with regard to weight and original research. It's for these reasons that over the last few years there have been a number of discussions at template talk:infobox person which reached a consensus that "influences/influenced by" parameters should mostly be avoided in infoboxes, since they tend to attract a lot of unsourced fancruft and even when they are verifiable, they are often better contextualized in the prose of the article's main body. That situation has since rippled out and mostly been implemented in other discussions for infoboxes on performers (see for example the recent discussion at Template_talk:Infobox_comedian#request for comment and its more or less unanimous conclusion). But, all of that said, I can see an argument for going the other direction here (dance has a famously strong standard relationship between teacher and pupil), though I must admit I am of two minds on the matter myself. Snow let's rap 23:23, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

A dancer named Virginia Myers. Who? Thought you might not have heard of her. She got lost in the history books some years ago.[edit]

I happen to be the son of Virginia Myers. And it's only been about a year and a half since a box in an art storage room was opened and we discovered a vast collection of clippings, pictures, newspaper and magazine reviews, letters, essays, poems, etc. about a very young dancer who became quite famous in New York City in the early 20th century. Starting at the age of four, and by the age of 5 she had become so well-known that the Edison Film Company found out about her and signed her to a contract to star in their 1,000th feature release titled the "The Dream Dances of Virginia Myers." It was released to all the Edison movie theaters in America as well as numerous other venues around the world.

I've done two articles in the past for Wikipedia, one focusing on Virgina's famous artist father, Jerome Myers, and another on his wife, another fine artist, Ethel Myers. This time I think a son who is not really an expert on dance or its history, should take a back seat, and let someone who really knows about the dance world and is not a blood relative take on the subject. It certainly seems like a much wiser choice. I did actually co-produce and write a major gala at Lincoln Center paying tribute to Fred Astaire, which included meetings with him in Hollywood to discuss what films we would be using (and why he still didn't like his singing that much). Anyway, the show was a huge success and Astaire said himself "it was the greatest evening he had ever had in his life." Ginger Rogers was there, and Fred's famous sister, Adele, also came. She was an extraordinary talent in her own right and during their performing days together always got the better reviews.

Anyway, had I known about what my mother had achieved on the New York stage around the same time that Fred and Adele were doing shows, I would have certainly mentioned her to him. He might well have known about her; might possibly have even seen her perform. It so happened I did invite my mother to the Gala and did introduce her to Fred, but not knowing anything about the past.

Possibly the best way to introduce yourself to who she was is to visit the Internet site I did create for her. It contains almost all the publicity and documentation that is now part of the permanent Virginia Myers Collection at "The Jerome Robbins Dance Library at Lincoln Center". Here is the link: [1].

I'm not sure how to follow up on this note. My email address is My telephone in New York City is 212-734-7280. Thank you for reviewing this.


BEDownes (talk) 23:02, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

BEDownes, I've looked through the website some and there does seem to be a wealth of material here. It is quite reasonable and appropriate for you to want to avoid getting too directly involved in the potential creation of the article yourself, given the potential conflict of interests involved, and looking at it as a neutral party myself, I have to say it's a complex case. On the one hand, as you probably know from your previous Wikipedia experiences, we have WP:Notability guidelines which determine when a given topic (including an individual) warrant and independent article on the project, and this determination is primarily made on the basis of the sources and outside materials available. In this case, there seems to be a fair bit of material to work with, but the fact that it is so dated and that your mother's legacy did not make it into more contemporary coverage of the era of dance she featured in complicates things some, because it means our vital secondary sourcing is limited here. Furthermore, we'd need to find at least some record of reference to her work in the archives for some media source, in order to confirm their publication status (it seems unfeasible that someone could/would flub that amount of material as is found on that site for such a purpose, but it's a simple matter of procedure here to confirm these things). I will look into this matter in detail and if there is any indication that we have the necessary sourcing to add an article on your mother and her work, I'll be happy to assist you in the creation of the article. However, as my editing time is limited at present, this could take some time (probably on the order of weeks or possibly even months, as it may require significant research on limited time). In the meantime, others here may decide to take the lead and expedite things. For now, my thanks for approaching this project in a smart fashion and all the best to you and your family! Snow let's rap 23:52, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Misty Copeland PR[edit]

Misty Copeland could use a reviewer at WP:PR.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:22, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Sandman Sims[edit]

I've recently spent some time expanding the Sandman Sims article from its former stub status to a full, referenced article. I removed the {{stub}} template from the article itself, but {{WikiProject Dance| class=stub| importance=low}} is still on the article's talk page, and I wasn't sure what the procedure is for modifying that template. (I'd also appreciate someone with expertise in dance looking the article over for terminology errors, as I am neither a dancer nor an expert in the field.) Thanks in advance! —GrammarFascist (talk) 16:38, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Cleared the entire GA Review backlog for Media and drama[edit]

  1. Thank you all to all our editors who help to contribute to Quality improvement efforts on Wikipedia related to WP:DANCE.
  2. I've helped to clear the entire GA Review backlog for Media and drama, which can be seen at Wikipedia:Good article nominations/Topic lists/Media and drama.
  3. I'd like to make a suggestion, here, which is optional, for you to please consider:
  4. Suggestion: This suggestion is optional only, but I ask you to please at least read over the Good Article review instructions, and consider reviewing two to three (2-3) GA candidates from good articles nominations, for each one (1) that you nominate. Again, this is optional and a suggestion only, but please do familiarize yourself at least with how to review, and then think about it -- as a way to pay it forward.

Thank you,

Cirt (talk) 06:43, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Archived old threads[edit]

Archived some old threads that were inactive, zero new responses, those that referred to closed AFDs, etc. — Cirt (talk) 06:55, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Request for AfD input for Satu Tuomisto[edit]

Please comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Satu Tuomisto. The AfD has been open for two weeks with no input. Thank you. JbhTalk 16:19, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Kinesthetic empathy?[edit]

Fyi, WT:PSYCH#Kinesthetic sympathy. (talk) 14:46, 6 November 2015 (UTC) (occasionally aka "dance ip")

How is this related to dance? Lambtron (talk) 15:50, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
[2] [3] (though obviously it isn't only related to dance). (talk) 16:12, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Please be more specific about the topic of this section. A concise statement would be more helpful than Google search results. Lambtron (talk) 17:17, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Well, I believe it's an established (and scientifically-based) concept in dance teaching and communication. (I posted here because I thought it possible someone might be interested in this - and the current page is, imo, a misrepresentation, per WP:WEIGHT, etc.) (talk) 17:51, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Red Bull BC One World Finals Italy 2015[edit]

Hi all, Red Bull BC One World Finals Italy 2015 could use some extra eyes. One user in particular, AdemirCedillos1, who has also gone by Ademiricedillos, has created a number of articles related to these breakdancing competitions. Another such is International B-Boy Championships, Red Bull BC One, and so on. Most of these articles are supported by primary sources, discussion forums, and things of that nature. I'm rather swamped right now and I can't do a whole lot to figure out whether these articles are notable or not, so I was hoping to get some help from the kind members of WikiProject Dance. There are a lot of competition trees and other detail that seems excessive. I'll also float this by WikiProject Hip Hop. I'm getting a really strong promotional vibe, cynic that I am. Two other articles, Undisputed World Bboy Series and 2014 Undisputed World Bboy Series were deleted as a result of AfDs. ((Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Undisputed World Bboy Series, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2014 Undisputed World Bboy Series) Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:26, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Misty Copeland at WP:FAC[edit]

Please join the discussion at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Misty Copeland/archive1.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:24, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

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Request for Comment: Infobox for Choreographic Works[edit]

Hi, Everyone, I've drafted an infobox for choreographic works in my sandbox and would greatly appreciate your feedback/review before I formally proposing it. Thank you! Megs (talk) 17:41, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Auto-assessment of article classes[edit]

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Proposed deletion of Es Paradis[edit]

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Damian Woetzel[edit]

This article on Damian Woetzel is a major mess - I just came across it. I tried editing it some but it is massive and full of promotional detail about him and everything he has ever done and everyone he's ever been associated with. Maybe someone from this project could tackle it and leave in the important parts. МандичкаYO 😜 14:37, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement![edit]

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Please note that Sword dance, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of Today's articles for improvement. The article was scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing!
Delivered by MusikBot talk 00:06, 7 November 2016 (UTC) on behalf of the TAFI team

2016 Community Wishlist Survey Proposal to Revive Popular Pages[edit]

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Draft:Algorithmic Choreography[edit]

Please help evaluate this draft at AFC. If you do not wish or know how to do an AFC review, simply post your comments to the draft's talk page. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:26, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Missing topics list[edit]

My list of missing topics about dance is updated - Skysmith (talk) 13:34, 8 January 2017 (UTC)