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Coordinators' working group[edit]

Hi! I'd like to draw your attention to the new WikiProject coordinators' working group, an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate. This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators. All designated project coordinators are invited to join this working group. If your project hasn't formally designated any editors as coordinators, but you are someone who regularly deals with coordination tasks in the project, please feel free to join as well. — Delievered by §hepBot (Disable) on behalf of the WikiProject coordinators' working group at 05:14, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Request for Comment: Infobox for Choreographic Works[edit]

Hi, Everyone, I've drafted an infobox for choreographic works in my sandbox and would greatly appreciate your feedback/review before I formally proposing it. Thank you! Megs (talk) 17:41, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Auto-assessment of article classes[edit]

Following a recent discussion at WP:VPR, there is consensus for an opt-in bot task that automatically assesses the class of articles based on classes listed for other project templates on the same page. In other words, if WikiProject A has evaluated an article to be C-class and WikiProject B hasn't evaluated the article at all, such a bot task would automatically evaluate the article as C-class for WikiProject B.

If you think auto-assessment might benefit this project, consider discussing it with other members here. For more information or to request an auto-assessment run, please visit User:BU RoBOT/autoassess. This is a one-time message to alert projects with over 1,000 unassessed articles to this possibility. ~ RobTalk 22:25, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Es Paradis[edit]

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The article Es Paradis has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

No indication that this business satisfies WP:ORG. It has been tagged with Template:Primary sources since 2010, but the problem still remains; Independent reliable sources are needed to show that this club has received more than trivial coverage listed in WP:ORGDEPTH. Requests were made at WT:SPAIN#Es Paradis and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Event Venues/Music task force#Es Paradis for help in finding better sourcing, but no response was received from either, and a search for better sources per WP:NEXIST came up empty.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:18, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Damian Woetzel[edit]

This article on Damian Woetzel is a major mess - I just came across it. I tried editing it some but it is massive and full of promotional detail about him and everything he has ever done and everyone he's ever been associated with. Maybe someone from this project could tackle it and leave in the important parts. МандичкаYO 😜 14:37, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement![edit]

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Please note that Sword dance, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of Today's articles for improvement. The article was scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing!
Delivered by MusikBot talk 00:06, 7 November 2016 (UTC) on behalf of the TAFI team

2016 Community Wishlist Survey Proposal to Revive Popular Pages[edit]

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Greetings WikiProject Dance Members!

This is a one-time-only message to inform you about a technical proposal to revive your Popular Pages list in the 2016 Community Wishlist Survey that I think you may be interested in reviewing and perhaps even voting for:

If the above proposal gets in the Top 10 based on the votes, there is a high likelihood of this bot being restored so your project will again see monthly updates of popular pages.

Further, there are over 260 proposals in all to review and vote for, across many aspects of wikis.

Thank you for your consideration. Please note that voting for proposals continues through December 12, 2016.

Best regards, SteviethemanDelivered: 17:58, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Draft:Algorithmic Choreography[edit]

Please help evaluate this draft at AFC. If you do not wish or know how to do an AFC review, simply post your comments to the draft's talk page. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:26, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Is this project dead? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 21:48, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Only one source (the blog entry "Towards Computer Generated Choreography") mentions the term "algorithmic choreography". Perhaps the term "computer-generated choreography" -- which appears in most (if not all) of the sources, including the above blog -- would be a better title? Lambtron (talk) 22:37, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Missing topics list[edit]

My list of missing topics about dance is updated - Skysmith (talk) 13:34, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Danza Organica[edit]

Would someone from this WikiProject mind taking a look at Danza Organica and assessing it? The article is still relatively new and appears to have been created as part of Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/Emerson College/African American Theatre and Culture (Fall 2016). Lots of articles created by students participating in these class projects usually never pass through AfC and end up being tagged, like this one has, for all kinds of issues. Any feedback, particularly on its notability, would be appreciated. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:19, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Sharon Kinney[edit]

Sharon Kinney, a choreographer, is currently the subject of a deletion discussion. I think it would be helpful to have participation from this project, as few or none of the participants on the AfD (myself included) have a lot of dance expertise. —David Eppstein (talk) 03:03, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Popular pages report[edit]

We – Community Tech – are happy to announce that the Popular pages bot is back up-and-running (after a one year hiatus)! You're receiving this message because your WikiProject or task force is signed up to receive the popular pages report. Every month, Community Tech bot will post at Wikipedia:WikiProject Dance/Popular pages with a list of the most-viewed pages over the previous month that are within the scope of WikiProject Dance.

We've made some enhancements to the original report. Here's what's new:

  • The pageview data includes both desktop and mobile data.
  • The report will include a link to the pageviews tool for each article, to dig deeper into any surprises or anomalies.
  • The report will include the total pageviews for the entire project (including redirects).

We're grateful to Mr.Z-man for his original Mr.Z-bot, and we wish his bot a happy robot retirement. Just as before, we hope the popular pages reports will aid you in understanding the reach of WikiProject Dance, and what articles may be deserving of more attention. If you have any questions or concerns please contact us at m:User talk:Community Tech bot.

Warm regards, the Community Tech Team 17:16, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

WiR focus on music and dance in July[edit]

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Welcome to Women in Red's July 2017 worldwide online editathons.

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(To subscribe: Women in Red/English language list and Women in Red/international list. Unsubscribe: Women in Red/Opt-out list) --Ipigott (talk) 10:21, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement![edit]

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Please note that Choreography, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of Today's articles for improvement. The article was scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing!
Delivered by MusikBot talk 00:05, 30 October 2017 (UTC) on behalf of the TAFI team

Disambiguation links on pages tagged by this wikiproject[edit]

Wikipedia has many thousands of wikilinks which point to disambiguation pages. It would be useful to readers if these links directed them to the specific pages of interest, rather than making them search through a list. Members of WikiProject Disambiguation have been working on this and the total number is now below 20,000 for the first time. Some of these links require specialist knowledge of the topics concerned and therefore it would be great if you could help in your area of expertise.

A list of the relevant links on pages which fall within the remit of this wikiproject can be found at

Please take a few minutes to help make these more useful to our readers.— Rod talk 14:52, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

National Folklore Theft[edit]

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1-This page is taking every single Egyptian Folklore heritage and claiming it to 22 countries that are not any related to the folklore. Clear appropriation (Kindly check the history page).

2- North Africans (Egyptians, Moroccans, Algerians...) are not ethnically Arabs (Belong to Bedouin Tribes) so calling their Folk dances by Arab dance is clear culture appropriation and exclusion to Coptic, Berbers and all North African countries' cultural right to have their National Folk dances named after their people and home (i.e. Egyptian Folk dance, Moroccan Folk dance...and so on). An Egyptian Folklore simply belongs to Egypt.

3- Also, the word Arab itself is not used by millions of North Africans, so our Traditional Folklore should be named after our people/country and not other 20+ countries. What's the validity of creating pages that erase the identity of several nations and steal their Traditional Heritage. The article replaced every single Egyptian Folklore and every single Egyptian Traditional Dancer with the word Arab, in an attempt to claim other countries National Traditions.

Thank you all very much, Marina Towadros (talk) 05:26, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Attn. Editors Re: Francisco Moncion - founding member of New York City Ballet and principle dancer for over 40 years[edit]

Hello Editors of the WikiProject Dance/Ballet - whenever time permits, kindly evaluate and assess the importance of Francisco Moncion which has been upgraded and expanded in recent months. Many thanks in advance for your kind assistance and interest - With best wishes for the continued success of WikiProject Dance (talk) 23:10, 9 May 2018 (UTC)PS

WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject[edit]

The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.

Portals are being redesigned.

The new design features are being applied to existing portals.

At present, we are gearing up for a maintenance pass of portals in which the introduction section will be upgraded to no longer need a subpage. In place of static copied and pasted excerpts will be self-updating excerpts displayed through selective transclusion, using the template {{Transclude lead excerpt}}.

The discussion about this can be found here.

Maintainers of specific portals are encouraged to sign up as project members here, noting the portals they maintain, so that those portals are skipped by the maintenance pass. Currently, we are interested in upgrading neglected and abandoned portals. There will be opportunity for maintained portals to opt-in later, or the portal maintainers can handle upgrading (the portals they maintain) personally at any time.


On April 8th, 2018, an RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace. On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals.

There's an article in the current edition of the Signpost interviewing project members about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject.

Since the reboot, the Portals WikiProject has been busy building tools and components to upgrade portals.

So far, 84 editors have joined.

If you would like to keep abreast of what is happening with portals, see the newsletter archive.

If you have any questions about what is happening with portals or the Portals WikiProject, please post them on the WikiProject's talk page.

Thank you.    — The Transhumanist   07:34, 30 May 2018 (UTC)


All the articles like Chassé (waltz) really badly need their stepwork material rewritten in plain English instead of impenetrable hyper-abbreviated gibberish, per WP:JARGON and MOS:ABBR. At a few articles I started some cleanup ("forward" and "between" instead of "fwd" and "btwn", etc.), but much of it I have no idea what it means, so people from this project will need to tackle it. There's also an incredible amount of over-capitalization (see MOS:CAPS and WP:NCCAPS, and MOS:HEADINGS, etc.) going on, in the prose, in section headings, in table headers, and in titles. In many of these articles pretty much every single dancing jargon word (and many that aren't, like "left" and "right") is capitalized for no reason other than dance people like to write that way (just like specialists in virtually every sphere love to over-capitalize their jargon terms). This isn't DanceProfessionalsPedia, folks. :-/
 — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  08:56, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

WP:JARGON and lack of clarity are certainly common in ballet-centric articles (see dance terminology and what does it mean?). They are so prevalent in some articles that the description of the main topic itself -- let alone the stepwork -- is incomprehensible or obviously wrong. Lambtron (talk) 14:36, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
SMcCandlish, I'd be happy to look into the matter if you could give me a shortlist of the worst offenders you have found or note the common nexus through which you became aware of the issues. I've been meaning to spend some time on dance related articles anyway. Snow let's rap 08:24, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
The "common nexus" has just been going into dance-related categories and noting that almost everything is over-capitalized, then looking in the article text and seeing that it's even worse. I started with and did some working-over of many articles there, proceeding through Viennese waltz, Template:Standard waltz, Rock step, Telemark (waltz) (that one should be capitalized, being a proper name), Chassé, Chassé (waltz), Lock (waltz), Wing (waltz), Pivot turn, Right and left grand, Double reverse spin, Impetus (waltz), Whisk (ballroom dance); and Ballroom tango. Also veered into Country–western dance, Square dance, Modern western square dance. And some hip-hop stuff: Butterfly dance, Airflare. Also Glossary of partner dance terms (needs work).

Most of these articles have barely been touched in years, so the cleanup stuff I did is very evident, right at or near the top of the page history. And it's still not sufficient for the stepwork material, much of which I can't accurately parse. (I'm a two-left-footer, despite repeated and expensive swing, tango, and waltz lessons; I just gave up eventually. This is definitely not my area of terminological or experiential expertise.) Also left some threads at Talk:Glossary of partner dance terms. I didn't look at ballet at all, and did not get into other ballroom dance (just one tango – not Tango! – article). Swing dancing is another pile-up of stylistic and jargon mess, but I would tackle it last; it's a really big set of articles, and it's easier to clean up the moribund pages in smaller categories first, branching out as needed to patch up the basic terminology articles like Chassé. So, someone looking to help could address waltz stepwork, or just start fresh on tango, foxtrot, ballet, modern dance, hip-hop dance, or (if brave) swing.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  09:24, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Hmmm, I'm certainly not our greatest expert on dancesport styles, but I'll dig in with you and provide what insight I can, when I've exhausted the rest. I'll start with the modern and acrodance content. Though I must warn you that with my off-project responsibilities right now, I may not get a full head of steam on it for a couple of weeks, with that many articles to tackle. I'll continue with the hip-hop content; Butterfly dance looks like a potential WP:NOPAGE/WP:SUMMARYSTYLE issue that could probably be merged somewhere, even if it meant creating a catch-all article for future content. I mean, honestly, it's not really sourced (a youtube video of someone doing a dance move not being anything remotely like an RS capable of establishing notability, ha). But I really don't want to open the can of worms of figuring out idiosyncratic notability guidelines for how dance moves can be validated. Doesn't seem like a good use of anyone's time just now. Incidentally, when you do get over to the classical dance side of things, you will see the problems are reversed. There, outside of a few stand-out articles, like Ballet, the content is sparse and often overly vague and self-referential. I had plans to overhaul it with a couple of other volunteers here, but, you know, too little time, and too many divisions of it, even in that amount I can spare the project! But I should move it back towards the top of the list; it's an underserved topic in terms of our content. Snow let's rap 10:22, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
I do like the groove of that move, though. :D Snow let's rap 10:34, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
No worries. I 'spect this will take years.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  13:24, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Please come and help...[edit]

There is a requested move at Talk:Waltz (International Standard) that could use some input from those who have interest in the subject. Your input would be very helpful!  Paine Ellsworth  put'r there  20:11, 3 July 2018 (UTC)