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RfC regarding manners and causes of death.[edit]

Some of you may be interested in this question about the "Deaths in 20xx" pages. Some of you may not. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:37, September 28, 2015 (UTC)

The page "Category:Deaths from Parkinson's disease" needs to be deleted[edit]

As stated in the header, Category:Deaths from Parkinson's disease needs to be deleted or a MAJOR overhaul needs to be done on it... Why? Because it is 100% wrong. Simple answer is, no one DIES from Parkinson's disease, PERIOD!

If whomever created this category understood the disease, it never would have been created because it is absolutely 100% based on false information. People NEVER die from Parkinson's disease, it just makes other conditions worse...

Contact any doctor who specializes in Movement Disorders and ask them that question, they will laugh at you and tell you emphatically no, no one dies from the disease. Check any website connected to Parkinson's disease research and it will tell you the same thing.

From the Michael J Fox website...

Will I die from Parkinson's disease?

Most doctors say that Parkinson's disease itself is not fatal.

https://www.michaeljfox.org/understanding-parkinsons/living-with-pd/topic.php?prognosis

Jwersan (talk) 23:13, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Parkinson's is stated as a cause of death on thousands of death certificates every year. It's often not the sole cause, but it often causes death - even if it's not the direct cause. Jim Michael (talk) 09:31, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Skull and crossbones on project tag[edit]

it is still there and it is an insult to the intelligence of the project - skull and cross bones are not relevant to this project - how come we still have it for the portal link - at all... maybe I missed something somewhere higher up this talk page, but I suggest whoever lurks, that we get it removed? JarrahTree 05:14, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

If there is no response in a reasonable time - could we please have the skull and cross bones symbol out of the template? It really is quite annoying to think that nothing has been resolved re the removal. JarrahTree 05:22, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
Better still, just remove the crossbones. The skull matches the main image & is a widely-recognised symbol of death. The crossbones merely cause confusion & make it look like it's something to do with pirates or poison. Jim Michael (talk) 22:10, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
Are you offering to create a new image? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:27, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
I personally would prefer no image at all considering how endless the bloody conversation goes with no resolution. We just need to agree to get it removed and move on - it is so incredibly frustrating to see how long this has stalled. JarrahTree 00:04, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
Surely it's not difficult to remove the crossbones - that doesn't need anyone to create a new image, merely to remove the crossbones from the current one. Jim Michael (talk) 00:44, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
My impression is that the template is protected and that template editors like to know and see that there has been a consensual agreement of participating editors before acting on a request - the conversation above seems to have gone nowhere JarrahTree
My comment at 09:30, 9 May 2018 above explained the technical alternatives. One involves removing the portal link; another requires an alternate image. The third requires tricky module work. Johnuniq (talk) 01:27, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
Why cannot we simply have a blank? surely the template format allows for that? JarrahTree 10:34, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
See my earlier comment regarding the default image. Johnuniq (talk) 10:52, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, if I read your comments correctly you can do it, as there has been no support for the skull and crossbones, why cannot we just go totally blank on the right hand side of the template? JarrahTree 12:28, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
I've not seen anyone state that they're in favour of the crossbones, so I don't see what the barrier is. How about replacing the skull & crossbones with a smaller version of the main image? Jim Michael (talk) 23:21, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

resources for responsibly covering suicide[edit]

As copycat suicides are a real thing, and growing evidence suggests media coverage can influence risk of other people killing themselves, I've added some resources to the Suicide task force. It seems there is dearth of resources on this WikiProject that address how to create good articles that responsibly cover death, dying, and suicide, without glamorizing or perpetuating suicide. As Wikipedia allows even relatively small issues to be amplified the world over, we as editors should be concerned about the risk that poorly crafted or curated articles might actually influence a real person's likelihood of taking their own life. Input is welcome. --Animalparty! (talk) 22:14, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Template person(s)[edit]

Please could someone remove the skull and crossbones form the project tag for talk pages - this is about the third time or more - please could someone remove it, it is embarrassing for this project to be encumbered by such a childish and irrelevent item JarrahTree 10:31, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

and as for the prolonged silence - and the general lack of support for the skull and crossbones - surely someone is capable of eliminating the fiendish impediment towards a reasonable and sensible project tag? JarrahTree 12:58, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
waiting for months and weeks for something really wrong with a template - surely there is someone out there prepared to help? JarrahTree 13:56, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
@Evad37 and Samwilson: please could you (seeing that I have had no objection to my request to remove the skull and cross bones - try perhaps for a link to the portal - something less confronting like a simple image of coffin instead ? -
Ancient coffin lids at Bangor 02832.jpg
Norderhov kirke krypt.jpg

It would be much appreciated if it was at all possible to change as interest in discussing this has been lost in time - and it makes the project look totally absurd with such an improper representation. JarrahTree 13:15, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

These 2 edits by CFCF changed the Death portal icon from Skull 2.svg File:Skull 2.svg to Kalebp skull.svg File:Kalebp skull.svg. The images you have suggested won't work well as very small icon images ( Ancient coffin lids at Bangor 02832.jpg Norderhov kirke krypt.jpg ). Perhaps Emoji u26b0.svg File:Emoji u26b0.svg or Purple tombstone icon.svg File:Purple tombstone icon.svg would be better a choice. - Evad37 [talk] 14:28, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
Well, I'm sure the purple tombstone would be very suitable for some deceased. But I'm not sure about that other icon. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:07, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
File:Emoji_u26b0.svg looks the least likely to cause offence or disrespect across suitability criterion, or any cultural boundaries - whats our chances ? JarrahTree 23:12, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
I've requested the change: Template_talk:Portal#Template-protected_edit_request_on_14_September_2018. Sam Wilson 01:40, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks to those who helped solve the unnecessary image - it is much appreciated. JarrahTree 23:14, 14 September 2018 (UTC)