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Editor needed[edit]

Any good editor here willing to work with a student and draft now at Talk:Slavery in the United States#Slavery and disability? Perhaps it's own article/with summary in the main article? Thanks! Alanscottwalker (talk) 14:33, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

@User:Alanscottwalker The references in the "draft" you've linked are borked. The version at User:Yusrao/sandbox has proper references, so that is the proper draft to work on. The sources look good so an article should be possible. The current draft is too "chatty" and informal, killing the waffle and tightening up the language would probably produce an acceptable article. I'd be happy to assist User:Yusrao if you are not able to. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 01:40, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, I would leave it to you. Alanscottwalker (talk) 01:48, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
Yusrao please indicate your acceptance or refusal of this offer of assistance here. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:46, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
Alanscottwalker Yusrao Did anything ever happened with this? I have some info to add about slavery and disability but would like to know if this student is still interested in adding a section. Thanks! Jackiekoerner (talk) 21:13, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
Jackiekoerner, unfortunately no progress at all, Yusrao has not edited any page on WP since 30 November, even before this topic was started. The retention rate for student editors is very low. Most student editors simply disappear abruptly when their project/course ends, even if their drafts are far from complete. Short version: Please feel free to take over the lead in working on the topic. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:26, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
Sounds good, Dodger67, I'll get to work then. Jackiekoerner (talk) 21:01, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Visiting Scholar to tackle disability topics[edit]

Hi friends! I am the Visiting Scholar with San Francisco State University and the Wiki Education Foundation. My task is to help adjust existing bias in regard to disability in culture and history on Wikipedia. I thought I would share my topic list in case anyone would like to join me in the creation or editing. I'm glad for topic suggestions too!

Legal: Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990, Architectural Barriers Act of 1968, Cherry v. Matthews, Civil Rights of Institutionalized Persons Act, Olmstead v. L.C., Revolutionary War Pension Act, Randolph-Sheppard Act, Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act, Smith Fess Act, Sutton v. United States, Ugly laws, law and disability

People: Jacob Bolotin, Edmund Booth, Robert Burgdorf, Kitty Cone, Franklin D. Roosevelt, John Flournoy, Dr. Isabel Grant, Evan Kemp, Jr., Paul K. Longmore, Newell Perry, Jacobus Tenbroek, Junius Wilson, Irving Kenneth Zola

Groups and organizations: American Council of the Blind, Blinded Veterans Association, Disabled in Action, Easter Seals, League of the Physically Handicapped, Muscular Dystrophy Association, National Association of Retarded Children, National Organization on Disability, Rolling Quads

Miscellaneous topics: occupation of the Federal Office Building (San Francisco, California), Ancient world and disability, cinema/film and disability, disability in the Middle Ages, Disability rights movement (especially UK section), Education (K-12) and disability, Ellis Island and disability, Freak shows, Independent Living Movement history, higher education and disability, Miss Deaf America, Nazis and disability, slavery and disability, Telethons pertaining to disability, theater and disability, universal design theory, violence and disability, wheelchair, World War I and disability, material of activists for Commons.

I'd love to have you tell me your thoughts and would like to collaborate on these subjects with you. Thanks! Jackiekoerner (talk) 22:18, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Welcome! Maybe make these into redlists (link all the topics with double brackets, so we'll see the ones without articles in red, and they'll turn to blue as articles are created)--that'll help folks notice what's needed, in real time. Also, it looks like these are mostly US topics, and mostly 20c.--can you clarify if that's your emphasis, so we know what kinds of suggestions to add? - Penny Richards (talk) 23:18, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
Also don't forget the list we generated for the Dart Editathon a couple years ago--lots of topics suggested there that still don't have articles. - Penny Richards (talk) 23:23, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
Created redlinks for articles not yet created - can't wait to make them blue! Some I did not make wikilinks as they are so broad they might be represented many places.
The topics don't have to specifically focus on any particular area or time. The focus is to just get the history and culture out there for the people to consume. Jackiekoerner (talk) 00:27, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
Hello! I would add my voice to concern about non-US topics. It might be worth considering starting pages on "Disability rights in country" pages or standardizing on "Disability in country" articles. Disability rights in New Zealand already exists. So do Disability in China, South Africa, Australia, Canada, North Korea, Russia, Northern Ireland, the United States and others. Template:Disability by country shows many red links. Trankuility (talk) 21:38, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, Trankuility. I'll be sure to add that to the list. I do hope someone gets a start ahead of me or joins me once I do get to creating those, because that's such a big project just in itself! Jackiekoerner (talk) 22:40, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
Jackiekoerner The "Disability in <Country>" series of articles is a project I started some time ago. I hoped more people would participate, but progress has been very slow, partly because I'm busy with many other topics, and very few others have participated, so far. Most of the existing articles need to be expanded, many are stubs. Disability in South Africa is currently the best developed of them (due to my personal systemic bias), but even it lacks a section on culture. The intention is that each of the articles briefly summarizes the full spectrum of disability-related topics in each country - with each section potentially, or already, linked to a "main article" on each topic. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 21:02, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
Jackiekoerner, I'm particularly concerned that articles that (will) rely heavily on non-English sources will not get written or remain stubs for a long time. See, for example, my request at the (current) first topic on this page for help with Spanish. Various requests for help at various country wikiprojects have received no constructive responses. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 21:56, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Welcome. You're taking on a huge & varied topic. It's a most worthwhile area for a "visiting scholar" to Wikipedia. My own "little" concern in all this is the common equation "disability = visable disability". To overstate: "Disabled people are hampered (/excluded) by stairs". It ain't that easy, of course, and it's a pitfall to avoid. Let me know if you think I can be of help. --Hordaland (talk) 20:57, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Oh, totally! I'm actually presenting at an international conference in March about attitudinal bias about disability in career, and it focuses greatly on invisible disabilities. Many times the invisible disabilities are overlooked even when people are self-advocating for their needs.
I will make an effort to be sure to be broad in the information pertaining to disability. Please feel free to direct me to information or gaps where you find them. Jackiekoerner (talk) 21:06, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Friends! I just created a page for the 504 Sit-ins that occurred across the United States in April 1977 to push regulations for the Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act. It's titled 504 Sit-in. Please go check it out and edit freely! Best, Jackiekoerner (talk) 20:32, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Feedback on new draft: Jess Thom[edit]

Hi all,

Started a new draft page on comedian and theatre-maker Jess Thom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jess_Thom

I'd appreciate any feedback before submitting it. --JTdisabilityartsonline (talk) 10:08, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

CP Games rename[edit]

It's been suggested that CP Games be renamed, please join the discussion at Talk:CP Games. Le Deluge (talk) 18:18, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

The "Disability by country" article creation project seems to have stalled[edit]

See the many redlinks in the Disability by country navbox, please help to turn them blue. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:06, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Generalized Anxiety Disorder[edit]

Can someone please explain to me how Generalized anxiety disorder fits within the scope of your WikiProject? As someone with generalized anxiety disorder I find this kind of offensive. It's ridiculous, I would like an explanation, please. ThatGirlTayler (talk) 20:11, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi ThatGirlTayler, see criterion D in Generalized anxiety disorder#DSM-5 criteria which states: "The anxiety, worry, or physical symptoms cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning." There is also a sourced statement in the lead saying that it is the most common cause of workplace disability in the United States. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 21:41, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Draft:Dignity of risk[edit]

I have started the draft, please feel free to participate in developing it further. I have posted a list of sources that I can share on the draft's talk page. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:23, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi Dodger67! What are your thoughts on including references to Daniel Kish and World Access for the Blind in the article? Jackiekoerner (talk) 22:08, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
Jackiekoerner, I've read both articles, but I have no idea how either subject fits into the dignity of risk concept. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:16, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
Dodger67, Daniel Kish has been an advocate for people with disabilities, specifically blind people, experiencing the world without boundaries. So I guess he and his organization are examples of the direct opposite of this! If it's not appropriate or doesn't fit, that's fine. Just trying to wiki-link more of the world together.Jackiekoerner (talk) 19:31, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
Practically every disability advocate and organisation in some way touches on the dignity of risk concept, even when they never use the actual term. I'm just not seeing anything that makes this one a particularly salient example. I don't understand what you mean by "opposite". The opposite of dignity of risk is denial of choice, overprotection, institutionalization, etc. which certainly does not apply to Kish or his organization. BTW the organization article has problematic promotional tone. The inclusion of a section about the vision of an organisation is a huge warning sign. The only time the vision is worth mentioning in a WP article is when independent reliable sources have actually discussed it. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:02, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Proposal to remove the Importance parameter from the project banner and the article assessment system[edit]

In my opinion the importance rating of articles is of little to no actual value in managing and monitoring the quality of articles in the purview of this WikiProject. The rating is entirely subjective and usually the decision of a single editor. It has in the past caused unhappiness and even heated disputes as some people feel that a low rating is actually dismissive of, or insulting to, the article subject and conversely that high ratings are often not sufficiently justified. So I propose to remove the Importance rating from the project banner and article assessment tables. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:53, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Popular pages report[edit]

We – Community Tech – are happy to announce that the Popular pages bot is back up-and-running (after a one year hiatus)! You're receiving this message because your WikiProject or task force is signed up to receive the popular pages report. Every month, Community Tech bot will post at Wikipedia:WikiProject Disability/Popular pages with a list of the most-viewed pages over the previous month that are within the scope of WikiProject Disability.

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