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health section on mongrels should be altered[edit]

altered to remove the line on hybrid vigor.

i have tried to edit it and was told i was wrong and sent to a part of wiki that was incorrect so now i believe i am in the right place but who really knows anymore.

i gave the links to the studies and the results TWICE

This has been shown in a recent study in June 1, 2013 by the Journal of american veterinary medical association[14] Where with a large study of mutts and purebreds it was shown that mutts have no less risk than a purebred does of genetic related disorders. It was found that mutts had a higher risk of cranial cruciate ligament tears than did their purebred counterparts and that while both are equally susceptible to genetic disorders Purebreds with genetic disorders were limited to certain bloodlines with the particular disorder.[15]

Populations are particularly vulnerable when the dogs bred are closely related. Inbreeding among purebreds has exposed various genetic health problems not always readily apparent in less uniform populations. Mixed-breed dogs are more genetically diverse due to the more haphazard nature of their parents' mating. However, "haphazard" is not the same as "random" to a geneticist. The offspring of such matings might be less likely to express certain genetic disorders because there might be a decreased chance that both parents carry the same detrimental recessive alleles, but some deleterious recessives occur across many seemingly unrelated breeds, and therefore merely mixing breeds is no guarantee of genetic health. Also, when two poor specimens are bred, the offspring could inherit the worst traits of both parents. This is commonly seen in dogs from puppy mills.[16]

"June 1 Journal of American Veterinary Medical Association (JAVMA) researchers studied the medical records of 62,750 dogs diagnosed with genetic disorders during a 15 year period.

The study, titled, Prevalence of inherited disorders among mixed-breed and purebred dogs: 27,254 cases (1995–2010), Studied prevalence of 24 genetic disorders in the population.

Ten disorders were found to be more common in purebred dogs, purebred dogs had no higher incidence than did mixed breed dogs of health concerns. Mixed breed dogs had a higher prevalence of cranial cruciate ligament (CCL) tears than did purebred dogs.

According to the researchers, the study illustrates that for most heritable diseases mixed breeds confer no greater over all health. Heritable diseases clearly run in some pure bred lines, however according to the researchers, thirteen of the 24 diseases studied were present across the entire canine population prior to breeding for specific traits, and are therefore just as likely to show up in a mixed breed dog as a purebred.

Heritable diseases can be devastating for pet owners; knowing the history of a dog's lineage may provide a buffer against some of these issues. In-breeding has certainly led some breeds to have a high incidence for some diseases, and mixes derived from that breed can suffer from the same set of issues."


Can someone from this project please have a look at recent edits to Dalmatian_(dog)? There has been some back and forth at that page related to the origin of the breed. In particular, the anonymous editor (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log) has been aggressively edit warring. This editor has been reverted on other articles on the basis of adding false information, so it is probably good to have a knowledgeable editor review his edits to Dalmatian_(dog). Thank you. Deli nk (talk) 11:47, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Notability (breeds)[edit]

Please see Wikipedia:Notability (breeds) for a draft of a future proposal for a notability guideline on domestic animal breeds. As your wiki-project is involved in this area, I am dropping off an invite to the discussion. Please visit Wikipedia talk:Notability (breeds). Thanks! JTdaleTalk~ 16:15, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Gull Dong listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


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Thanks in advance for taking a look at this. There is confusion about whether this breed is the same breed as the Bully Kutta, and/or whether or not that breed or any of these breeds are actually recognized breeds at all. There are some other breeds involved in the discussion as well. Cheers. Ivanvector (talk) 19:33, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Dog Meat Festival[edit]

Comments welcome at Talk:Dog Meat Festival#The name of this article.

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:16, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Merge Proposal - Ancient dog breeds[edit]

Hello All. Ancient dog breeds are thought to be so based on the historical belief that these breeds date back over 500 years. The Wikipage has been based on one research paper by Parker in 2004 who simply showed that 9 breeds thought to be 'ancient breeds' had some sort of phylogenetic relationship, and this has already been pointed out on the Talk page by User:Mangojuice|Mango back in 2009 who proposed merging elsewhere. (We humans and dogs have a phylogenetic relationship if we look back far enough.) The research by Larson in 2012 shows that due to their remote geographic location, these breeds have simply been less mixed with other breeds during the Victorian period and that does not make them ancient. I propose that the Ancient dog breeds article be merged under Dog breeds in a short section simply stating this using both the Parker and Larson citations, and with the Ancient dog breeds page set up as a redirect to that section. See Talk:Ancient dog breeds#Merge Proposal. Regards, William Harristalk • 23:12, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

This matter has now been actioned. William Harristalk • 12:19, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Copyright Violation Detection - EranBot Project[edit]

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Update needed to "Oldest dogs" page[edit]

 The list of oldest dogs on the "oldest dogs" page needs to be updated....but every time I try to do it something goes wrong or someone removes the information, I am sending this to you.
 My Rat Terrier...Jake"...lived to be 21 years 6 days old...which would make him the 12th oldest dog on the list.  He was born July 21, 1994 and passed on July 27, 2015.
 Guinness World Records has all of Jake's vet and boarding records, photos, witness statements, etc on file.  My contact person at Guinness is Victoria Tweedy.  They have all of this as I was attempting to set a new dog record at the time of Jake's passing.  You can confirm all of this by contacting Victoria Tweedy if need be.
 Please update the page so my dear Rat Terrier can get the recognition he deserves.

Ron "Toto" Johnson Davenport, Iowa, USA — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:37, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

List of most popular dog breeds[edit]

Is totally wrong. Because the sources are not representative of normal dogs in the US. I don't have a great source that is representative. But I found this. huff post article. I just mention this because in Oregon pit bulls are hugely popular, and the article doesn't even mention them. Not that I like PBs, I'm more of a chug person. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) 20:41, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Origin of the domestic dog - split[edit]

Hello All, a proposal has been made to split the Origin of the domestic dog page into two sections. One section would be relocated under what is currently the redirect that is titled Dog domestication, and this would include the current Sections 7-Domestication and 8-Convergent evolution. The first 6 Sections would remain under the Origin page. There would be links between the two. As this would mean a major undertaking relevant to dogs and their interested readers, I will be posting this proposal on the Talk:Dog page and the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Dogs page. I seek editor's feedback on this proposal under Talk:Origin of the domestic dog#Origin of the domestic dog - split over the next fortnight. Please vote YES or NO under under Talk:Origin of the domestic dog#Origin of the domestic dog - split. Regards, William Harristalk • 22:09, 1 September 2015 (UTC)