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Template Change[edit]

A vote on merging the Asian film infobox templates went through and a discussion on how to merge them is completed. Please refrain from using the old Japanese film template and use the default film template + Template:Film name to write the name in the original Japanese. Thanks. ₪RicknAsia₪ 00:42, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Film name template[edit]

After creating this article, I am concerned by the "Film name" template. I was told here to raise the issue on this page. What does anyone think? It seems horrible to me to have giant links to "Kanji" and "Hepburn" above even the film's director. Wistchars (talk) 00:52, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Are you more concerned with the placement of the film title in Japanese or the links to articles about Kanji and Hepburn? ₪RicknAsia₪ 02:30, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
I think I already explained this on the talk page above, but at the risk of repeating myself, I am concerned about the relative emphasis of the parts of the infobox. Out of the people who look at a page on a film, say Fune o Amu, I think quite a lot of people are interested in the director, probably even more people are interested in the actors, some people might be interested in what language the film is in, or when it was released, but relatively very few people will be mainly interested in finding out details of Japanese language, for example the name of a romanization system for Japanese. At the moment the word "Hepburn" and the link to a page which is almost unrelated to the main topic of the article is predominating at the top of the box, above the name of even the director of the film. I think the native name should be presented, but in a simpler form. Wistchars (talk) 02:43, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Concretely, I am suggesting that the name should be more like
The Great Passage
(舟を編む Fune o Amu?)
rather than having the separate "Hepburn" and "Japanese" fields. Wistchars (talk) 05:24, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
I agree. There is no need to explain in the infobox that the Japanese name is written in Japanese and that the text immediately following it is the transliteration of that name in latin characters, as it's pretty obvious. Most readers of the articles about Japanese films are not so interested in information about kanji/kana and which romanization system the Japanese title has been transliterated with, that they want blue links to them. And while many understand the principle of romanization, most of them have never heard of Hepburn - except as the last name for a very popular actress. All this is just confusing and over the top. I think two alternative solutions should be used:
1) To follow the principle used for all non-Asian films - that the local title only appears in a parenthesis after the English title in the beginning of the actual article, see Stray Bullet and Lemon Tree as examples.
2) To combine this with the established principle used by geographic templates, such as "Infobox country" (see the article for Japan). Some film articles use this solution, and The Traveller is a typical example.
I think that Japanese, Chinese and Korean film articles should follow principle 1. It's in line with all other film articles and fully sufficient. Thomas Blomberg (talk) 12:37, 2 August 2013 (UTC)