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Flag and nationality consistency for Chinese Taipei / Taiwan
[edit]I noticed some inconsistency across a few football pages regarding flags and team representation for Taiwan / Chinese Taipei.
For example: Flags: The AFC Challenge League page uses the Chinese Taipei flag for clubs, but the Chinese Taipei national football team article uses the Taiwan (ROC) flag.
Nationality: In squad templates, the field is meant to show the national team as defined under FIFA eligibility rules (the same reason we list England or Gibraltar instead of UK). But right now, some pages list "Taiwan" while others use "Chinese Taipei".
It gets a bit confusing, should we align these across all football articles based on standard FIFA team designations and flags? Chelsdog (talk) 03:20, 5 September 2026 (UTC)
- The Chinese Taipei national football team should also use the Chinese Taipei flag. If I'm not mistaken, this is the product of one user changing instances of {{fb|TPE}} to {{fb|Taiwan}} in some articles. Nehme1499 (talk) 17:30, 5 September 2026 (UTC)
- In the 1980s, after a naming dispute with the People's Republic of China, the IOC decided to refer to Taiwan as "Chinese Taipei", an ambiguous apolitical term, and so did other entities do, including FIFA. The use of "Chinese Taipei" in place of terms like "ROC" or "Taiwan" is commonplace and Wikipedia should be no exception (cf. WP:COMMONNAME). That said, I suppose you don't want to lose your social credit. xD Wikipediæ philosophia (talk) 20:18, 5 September 2026 (UTC)
- Can't we just edit the fb template? If the string is "TPE", "Taiwan", "ROC", "Republic of China", "Chinese Taipei", "China Taipei", "ROC", "Taiwan, China" or other euphemisms of this kind, the IOC Chinese Taipei flag will be displayed nonetheless? Wikipediæ philosophia (talk) 18:21, 6 September 2026 (UTC)
- Now they are showing the ROC flags, which is not existed in football world. This is quite confusing. Shall we change them to the IOC flags? Chelsdog (talk) 23:48, 6 September 2026 (UTC)
- Without a shadow of doubt. In any case, I guess we need to achieve a consensus. Wikipediæ philosophia (talk) 23:53, 6 September 2026 (UTC)
- Sureer, let's wait for other to speak up. Chelsdog (talk) 00:31, 7 September 2026 (UTC)
- For anything post-1982 (I think, correct me if I'm wrong) it should be Chinese Taipei. That's the sporting nationality even if Taiwan/Republic of China is appropriate outwith sport. Should remain as Taiwan/Republic of China as appropriate for before the Chinese Taipei compromise was reached.
- I don't think it is possible to update the fb template as it relies on the country data templates for links and flags. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 12:28, 7 September 2026 (UTC)
- Seems we already made a consensus? Chelsdog (talk) 23:50, 9 September 2026 (UTC)
- Sureer, let's wait for other to speak up. Chelsdog (talk) 00:31, 7 September 2026 (UTC)
- Without a shadow of doubt. In any case, I guess we need to achieve a consensus. Wikipediæ philosophia (talk) 23:53, 6 September 2026 (UTC)
- Now they are showing the ROC flags, which is not existed in football world. This is quite confusing. Shall we change them to the IOC flags? Chelsdog (talk) 23:48, 6 September 2026 (UTC)
- Can't we just edit the fb template? If the string is "TPE", "Taiwan", "ROC", "Republic of China", "Chinese Taipei", "China Taipei", "ROC", "Taiwan, China" or other euphemisms of this kind, the IOC Chinese Taipei flag will be displayed nonetheless? Wikipediæ philosophia (talk) 18:21, 6 September 2026 (UTC)
Good article reassessment for Patrick Kisnorbo
[edit]Patrick Kisnorbo has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 15:13, 7 September 2026 (UTC)
Template:Eredivisie Talent of the Year and Template:Dutch Football Talent of the Year
[edit]I noticed we currently have two separate templates covering the best young player award in the Netherlands:
From looking into the history of the award, these appear to represent the same lineage:
- In 1984, the award was established as the Dutch Football Talent of the Year (Nederlands Voetbal Talent van het Jaar).
- In 2003, it was rebranded as the Johan Cruyff Trophy / Prize (Johan Cruijff Prijs).
- In recent years, it has been presented during the Eredivisie Awards under the moniker Johan Cruyff Talent of the Year (often linked or referred to in shorthand as Eredivisie Talent of the Year).
Because the two templates track the same continuous honour (or duplicate winners across different eras), having two parallel navigational templates leads to inconsistencies across player transclusions.
Unless there is an intentional distinction between a league-specific award and a broader Dutch FA/national talent award that I have overlooked, should we:
- Merge them into one primary template (e.g., matching the main article coverage at Dutch Footballer of the Year#Dutch Football Talent of the Year or Eredivisie Awards), and
- Turn the other into a template redirect?
Would appreciate thoughts on preferred titling and how best to consolidate them. Thanks! Ranculos (talk) 22:59, 7 September 2026 (UTC)
- I think merge them - this can be done via WP:TFD. GiantSnowman 08:47, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
Templates
[edit]Winnig CL team templates are created (again i belive), example here. We agreed to not have them correct? Kante4 (talk) 10:27, 8 September 2026 (UTC)
- I'm not aware of any consensus so I don't know what the answer is but I have noticed what you mean. I can see no-one has spoken to Jack Cox yet and if this is allowed, which I am 50/50, these titles should follow the MOS:DASH rule like with season named articles for each club, should they are all kept. Iggy Swan (Contribs) 15:36, 8 September 2026 (UTC)
- Yeah i am not sure if i am correct but i somehow have the feeling it was discussed before, a short search shows nothing so maybe i am wrong. Kante4 (talk) 15:43, 8 September 2026 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Consensus#Navigation boxes. These should all be nominated for deletion. S.A. Julio (talk) 16:33, 8 September 2026 (UTC)
- Now nominated here. S.A. Julio (talk) 17:08, 8 September 2026 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Consensus#Navigation boxes. These should all be nominated for deletion. S.A. Julio (talk) 16:33, 8 September 2026 (UTC)
- Yeah i am not sure if i am correct but i somehow have the feeling it was discussed before, a short search shows nothing so maybe i am wrong. Kante4 (talk) 15:43, 8 September 2026 (UTC)
Infobox updater templates
[edit]In the process of updating Sport Republic I went digging into Category:Association football infobox updater templates. I noticed the distribution of countries covered is a little strange - for instance, there is Vietnam but no Portugal, Belgium, etc. Is there a particular reason for this I've missed, or am I free to start setting these up? Timmeh59 (tlk | cntrbs) 10:51, 8 September 2026 (UTC)
- You're more than welcome to create them for countries that don't have one. Number 57 11:21, 8 September 2026 (UTC)
- Great, I'll take a look. Timmeh59 (tlk | cntrbs) 20:04, 9 September 2026 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Luis Suárez#Requested move 8 September 2026
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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Luis Suárez#Requested move 8 September 2026 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ~2026-48786-59 (talk) 18:59, 8 September 2026 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Luis Suárez (Colombian footballer)#Requested move 8 September 2026
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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Luis Suárez (Colombian footballer)#Requested move 8 September 2026 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ~2026-48786-59 (talk) 19:00, 8 September 2026 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Tom Taylor (soccer)#Requested move 9 September 2026
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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Tom Taylor (soccer)#Requested move 9 September 2026 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ~2026-48837-89 (talk) 00:36, 9 September 2026 (UTC)
FA Cup winning managers FLC
[edit]Hi,
If anyone would be kind enough to review this list about FA Cup winning managers at FLC, that would be greatly appreciated. the nomination is in danger of closing without a few more reviews. NapHit (talk) 07:52, 9 September 2026 (UTC)
2022 FIFA World Cup qualification
[edit]What is this guy doing? NikeAir444 (talk · contribs) It looks fishy to me. Brian Budd's ghost (talk) 19:23, 9 September 2026 (UTC)
- Looks like it has been correctly reverted just now according to the page history. I am confident NikeAir444 is incorrect. Iggy Swan (Contribs) 19:45, 9 September 2026 (UTC)
- All their edits have been reverted, and they have been given their only warning. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 19:45, 9 September 2026 (UTC)
- They vandalized the CONCACAF third round page again. I have reverted and reported the vandal to AIV. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 19:05, 10 September 2026 (UTC)
- The user has been blocked. GiantSnowman 20:43, 10 September 2026 (UTC)
- They vandalized the CONCACAF third round page again. I have reverted and reported the vandal to AIV. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 19:05, 10 September 2026 (UTC)
New automatic standings feature of Module:Sports table
[edit]For anyone interested, I just added a new feature to Module:Sports table that optionally allows the standings of a competition to be automatically generated from the match scores. Basically the module will tally up the results from the played matches, and then will rank teams based on the tiebreaking criteria set in the wikitext. The full documentation is at Module:Sports table/auto. I've gone ahead and implemented it on this season's Premier League, Bundesliga and Champions League articles. Hopefully this should make updating tables easier for users, let me know if there are any questions or issues that arise! Cheers, S.A. Julio (talk) 01:11, 10 September 2026 (UTC)
- I am amazed. This is excellent work, and will definitely help with the recent change FIFA made to use HTH results and scores before overall group results and scores. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 01:43, 10 September 2026 (UTC)
- That is a gamechanger, love it. Kante4 (talk) 08:03, 10 September 2026 (UTC)
- What can I do for u to adapt it to local leagues? I could not find anyway to copy/paste the league standings for bundesliga for example.@S.A. Julio Teacher0691 (talk) 23:23, 10 September 2026 (UTC)
- @Teacher0691: The explanation is at Module:Sports table/auto. But basically: you just need to take the usual match code used in Module:Sports results (
|match_AAA_BBB=, etc; this can be quickly generated using here) and place it in the call of Module:Sports table. Then set|auto_generate_standings=yes, and add the tiebreaker criteria (e.g.|ranking_criteria=pts, gd, gf, agf). The module should do the rest. S.A. Julio (talk) 06:08, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
- @Teacher0691: The explanation is at Module:Sports table/auto. But basically: you just need to take the usual match code used in Module:Sports results (
International career timeframe, 1 or 2 years?
[edit]In Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Consensus, we describe the standard for how to deal with the starting and ending years for the timeframe of a national team in a player's infobox, mentioning that once a player is removed from the recent call-ups section of their respective national team page, their timeframe in the infobox should also be closed
. However, the consensus also notes that the amount of years after which a player is removed from the recent call-ups section [...] is disputed between 1 and 2 years
, according to this discussion.
I would argue that it should be standardized to 1 year, as the discussion was held in 2022 and the 1-2 years of recent call-ups were during the pandemic period, when not many matches were being held. Taking a few examples (England, Italy, Brazil, Spain), the recent call-ups sections have, respectively 23, 38, 47, and 22 players, which are more than enough. Other than the fact that we have de facto been using 1 year as a timeframe for the past 4 years, at least. Nehme1499 (talk) 15:42, 10 September 2026 (UTC)
- Agree, Results are limited to one year as well. The standard should be same. Chelsdog (talk) 16:59, 10 September 2026 (UTC)
Youth competition player categories
[edit]Should these categories be kept?
- Category:AFC U-17 Asian Cup players
- Category:AFC U-23 Asian Cup players
- Category:FIFA U-17 World Cup players
- Category:FIFA U-20 World Cup players
I was under the impression that only the World Cup and major continental competitions should remain. Nehme1499 (talk) 21:26, 10 September 2026 (UTC)
- I agree that we should not have youth competition categories. World Cup, Olympics, and senior confederation competitions are enough. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 22:06, 10 September 2026 (UTC)
- Agree. GiantSnowman 08:44, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
- Lemme agree aswell. Kante4 (talk) 08:49, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
- Agree. GiantSnowman 08:44, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
Request for review: Gizzie Dorbor Israeli citizenship status
[edit]Hi everyone,
Could someone please review and help verify the Israeli citizenship status on the article for Gizzie Dorbor?
He received his Israeli citizenship in August 2017, and he is officially registered as a domestic Israeli player (not a foreign player) in the Israel Football Association database.
Here are the reliable sources confirming this: 1. IFA Official Profile: https://football.org.il 2. News Report: https://emeknews.co.il
I want to make sure the lead paragraph is updated correctly to "Liberian-Israeli footballer". Thank you for your assistance! ~2026-49226-72 (talk) 11:43, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
- Disagree - he is famous for being a Liberian footballer, and played for the national team. That he acquired secondary citizenship many years later is not relevant for the lede (but should definitely be mentioned in a 'personal life' section). There will be LOTS of footballers who get second nationality. GiantSnowman 11:47, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
equest for review: Mavis Tchibota citizenship and residency status
[edit]Hi everyone,
Could someone please review the updated lead for Mavis Tchibota?
He should be defined as a "Congolese-Israeli professional footballer". He moved to Israel in 2011, married an Israeli citizen, and received official Israeli residency status in January 2018. Because of this, he is officially registered as a domestic player (not a foreign player) in the Israel Football Association database.
Here are the reliable sources to verify this: 1. IFA Official Profile: https://football.org.il 2. Ynet News Report on his Israeli status: https://ynet.co.il
Thank you for your help in verifying this update! ~2026-49226-72 (talk) 11:55, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
- See above. Kante4 (talk) 11:57, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
Request for review: Nico Olsak Argentine-Israeli status
[edit]Hi everyone,
Could someone please review the lead paragraph for Nico Olsak?
I have updated it to reflect his dual Argentine-Israeli nationality status. He is a Jewish player who moved to Israel, obtained full Israeli citizenship under the Law of Return, and is officially registered as a domestic player in the Israel Football Association database.
Here is the official source confirming his registry as an Israeli domestic player:
- IFA Official Profile: https://football.org.il
Thank you for verifying and protecting this update! ~2026-49226-72 (talk) 12:56, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
I remember us deciding to not utilize dots while naming football teams: e.g. Juventus FC in lieu of Juventus F.C.
Hence, Manchester United F.C. should actually be Manchester United FC but it is not. Can anyone explain to me why? Have I lost any discussion thereafter? Wikipediæ philosophia (talk) 16:30, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
- The naming convention for Italian clubs is no dots - British clubs (and lots of other nations) is dots. GiantSnowman 16:38, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
- As GS mentions, the convention varies by country. Apart from a few oddities, all of the 1,437 articles in Category:Men's football clubs in England use dots -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:10, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
- As an aside, there are some A.F.C. Melchester Rovers, but some AFC Melborough, do you know why? U003F? 21:40, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
- Some English clubs at 'AFC' are because the 'AFC' doesn't actually stand for anything (e.g. AFC Wimbledon, AFC Bournemouth)... GiantSnowman 08:09, 12 September 2026 (UTC)
- As an aside, there are some A.F.C. Melchester Rovers, but some AFC Melborough, do you know why? U003F? 21:40, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
- As GS mentions, the convention varies by country. Apart from a few oddities, all of the 1,437 articles in Category:Men's football clubs in England use dots -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:10, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
Immobile
[edit]Hi everyone, could use an extra set of eyes on Ciro Immobile where a user keeps adding “He is one of the greatest strikers of his generation” which was unsourced at first and now appears to just have random sources that does not say these exact words. Not to mention the personal attack on his talk page. Thanks Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 13:34, 12 September 2026 (UTC)
- Handled on all counts and duly watchlisted. ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 13:40, 12 September 2026 (UTC)
- Can this guy be barred from editing Ciro Immobile? He's only making a mess. Wikipediæ philosophia (talk) 16:07, 12 September 2026 (UTC)