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Korean Tour external link template[edit]

I'm thinking of creating a {{KoreanTour player}} template missing ID and not present in Wikidata. on the lines of the others at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Golf/Templates#External_link_templates. This would link through to http://kgt.co.kr/players/profile.aspx?man_code=nnnnnnnn , eg K. J. Choi would be http://kgt.co.kr/players/profile.aspx?man_code=00000190 . The only issue is that pages are in Korean but the "translate to English" in my Chrome browser is helpful, although occasionally obscure (eg height = 신장 is translated as kidney. The page contains a lot of good stuff. eg the second option (결과 = results) gives season by season results.

Full 2020-21 PGA Tour Schedule published[edit]

Noticed that the PGA Tour have published the full schedule for 2020-21 today [1].

2020 ANA Inspiration[edit]

I am wondering why no one has updated the details of the field in this LPGA Major after it was released on September 4. I have a link which lists the final field here: https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2020/09/04/ana-inspiration-major-field-105-dinah-shore/ Also the 2019 winner will not be competing in this year's event.

Laura Davies[edit]

I've worked a lot trying to complete the Laura Davies article with LET wins, playoffs and yearly facts. Unfortunaly very difficult to find. The LET web site doesn't have much history. There is a LET Information centre site, but some tournaments are missing there.


If anyone can, please, a review and some fact checks will be appreciated. Regards, EEJB (talk) 12:12, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

U.S. Open coverage in Oz[edit]

Hello everyone - both List of U.S. Open (golf) broadcasters and U.S. Open (golf) there are statements that say "In Australia, from 2015 Fox Sports Australia is the exclusive broadcaster of the U.S. Open until 2018." Can somebody please source an update to this statement, with a reference? Cheers, PKT(alk) 16:53, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

OWGR winner's points updates[edit]

What's the best way to reflect the new multi-win bonus? [2] Would it just be to include a footnote for cases where it's used? pʰeːnuːmuː →‎ pʰiːnyːmyː → ‎ɸinimi → ‎fiɲimi 18:09, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah prob most likely. Will be easier to assess when it comes to fruition. Jimmymci234 (talk) 18:18, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I suspect it'll be quite common. I'd be inclined to just ignore it in the tour articles, but we could add a symbol to indicate that the winner got the bonus. Can't really see the need to give the actual number after the bonus. Nigej (talk) 18:24, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nick Faldo[edit]

After reading the Nick Faldo article, I think there are too much intricate negative personal details, not suitable for an encyclopedia. There are also notes concerning potentially libelous material in the article. Opinons? What should be removed? Regards, EEJB (talk) 10:31, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I regard the Nick Faldo#2008 Ryder Cup captaincy as very excessive, per WP:UNDUE. We don't normally go into anything like this detail about captaincy. And its clearly excessive when compared to the details we have about his playing appearances in the Ryder Cup, which are clearly much more important. Surely one paragraph somewhere is sufficient on his captaincy. Nigej (talk) 10:59, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. In addition, there may be too much information about his marriages in his Personal life section. It seems to go into excessive detail about his divorces.
Oogglywoogly (talk) 17:41, 26 December 2023 (UTC)Oogglywoogly[reply]

Western Province Open[edit]

I have recently made a lot of edits to the Western Province Open. On the original winners list it stated that Alf Padgham won the "Western Province golf championship." However, for the subsequent 19 seasons I could find no evidence of this tournament. I maintained Padgham's win on the table but suspect the 1930s event was an entirely different tournament. This idea seems to be affirmed by 1970 champion Bobby Walker who was from Scotland. In the report I have it states that he "became the first overseas player to win the Western Province open golf championship." (Padgham was also British.) Thoughts?

Oogglywoogly (talk) 17:39, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tom Morris Jr.[edit]

Currently Tom Morris Jr. is an article about a TV personality, while Tom Morris, Jr. redirects to Young Tom Morris. (Sr. both with and without the comma redirect to Old Tom Morris.) The yearly Open Championship articles refer to then as Jr. and Sr. rather than Young and Old; a user doing article cleanup just removed the commas from the names in those articles, resulting in numerous links to the TV personality.

I'm not sure what the best solution is here, but it seems like Tom Morris Jr. and Tom Morris, Jr. ought to link to the same place, even if that's a disambiguation. pʰeːnuːmuː →‎ pʰiːnyːmyː → ‎ɸinimi → ‎fiɲimi 21:23, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, a mess. See WP:JR/SR which allows both options but doesn't discuss the confusion if both are used for different people. Probably a WP:RM or similar is required. Nigej (talk) 09:36, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple winners section[edit]

I have noticed for a lot of our tournament pages we have a Multiple winners section. For example, see the pages for the South African Open or Phoenix Open or St. Jude Classic. I think these sections are clearly extraneous as we already denote multiple winners in parentheses in the Winners table. Thoughts?

Oogglywoogly (talk) 21:19, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of golf films[edit]

There is not a separate page and probably should be. Among sports (see List of sports films#Golf) golf seems one of the major sports without its own article. Anybody feel a personal call to create such a page, or fill it in once created? It could include fictional, documentary, and instructional entries. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:22, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good article reassessment for Annika Sörenstam[edit]

Annika Sörenstam has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Schierbecker (talk) 04:02, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,
All results are here
Source:[1]
I placed the ref in the Professional wins section.
Ryder Cup controversy source also in place.
Regards, EEJB (talk) 11:40, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Spelare, Annika Sörenstam, Samtliga tävlingsresultat i kronologisk ordning" [Player, Annika Sörenstam, All tournament results in chronological order] (in Swedish). Swedish Golf Federation and Golf Data AB. Retrieved 21 February 2024.

I've just overhauled this article with info from the FFG. The problem I have is this...

In 1994, Greg Chalmers apparently won the French Open Amateur Stroke Play (an event reduced to 54 holes held at Golf National), but the FFG have the winner this year as Jesper Kjærbye. French WP (fr:Coupe Murat) has scores back to 1982 but no source.

Does anyone know if the Coupe Murat (held at Chantilly) and the French Open Amateur Stroke Play were separate tournaments for a period of time (or in some years), or is the event Chalmers won something else altogether (it seems to have has a national team component [3])? wjematherplease leave a message... 17:01, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,
By the way, Francis Oumet, winner in 1914, was American, wasn't he? His father was a French-Canadian immigrant, but FO was born in Massachusetts. Regards EEJB (talk) 17:21, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed. Thanks for spotting that. wjematherplease leave a message... 17:25, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

David Graham[edit]

I,ve been trying to sharpen up the David Graham article. Still not very good. Strange that a HoFer had such a silly article with extreme details on his early career and just briefly description of his major wins and the wrong birthplace.

Well, one thing is still confusing: On the external sites World Golf Hall of Fame, PGA Tour, Texas Golf Hall of Fame, Sport Australia Hall of Fame, For the good of the Game and Golfweek 20150711 Graham gets credit for having won golf tournaments on six continents including South Africa and that should be the 1977 SA PGA Ch'ship. Graham says himself that he is proud of that and it's mentioned in the book "David Graham: From Ridicule to Acclaim" by Russell James, chapter 7.

I can't anywhere find a source confirming any South African win for Graham and he certainly not won the 1977 SA PGA, which John Bland did. Anyone knows something on this? Regards, EEJB (talk) 17:18, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SA PGA Championship could be referring to the South Australian PGA Championship, but the 1977 event was won by David Galloway. So really not sure about that one. Jimmymci234 (talk) 17:27, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For South America wins he has 1971 Caracas Open in (Ven), 1980 Heublein Open (Brazil) and 1970 World Cup in Argentina.Tewapack (talk) 17:39, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If I'm counting down the leaderboard correctly, Graham finished in a tie for 20th place in the 1977 Lexington PGA Championship. Wouldn't be the first time HoFs have taken their info direct from the Player (pun intended) without verification and ended up being inaccurate. wjematherplease leave a message... 18:01, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The 1978 PGA Tour Media Guide [4] doesn't mention it, although the 1977 Australian Open is mentioned. However it does get in the 1979 edition [5]. So could be in 1978, I suppose. Maybe a pro-am or something similar? Nigej (talk) 18:05, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately the PGAT have often accepted what the players report, without verification, so their media guides can be also unreliable. Yes, if I were to guess, I'd say it's probably a pro-am played in connection with the South African PGA in 1977. wjematherplease leave a message... 18:20, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
According to the book by Russell James the South Africa title was won "a month or two" before the 1977 Australian Open. That is the 1977-78 season. Probably a pro-am ahead of the S Afr PGA, in which Graham obviously took part. So let's leave it there until evidence is shown. Thank you! EEJB (talk) 20:14, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yearly individual Players Championship articles[edit]

I see we have an article for the 2024 Players Championship, which begins tomorrow and has no detail in it. I was thinking though, do we still think that these individual tournament articles for the Players Champ are warranted? I get the sense that interest for this tournament is waning as time goes on (alongside with most of pro golf at this time in general). The tour have also lost a lot of backbone regarding their "5th major" claims given the strength of field. Obviously we don’t know exactly what the future holds, but personally I would be happy to do away with the individual articles (as we have done with the BMW PGA Championship). Interested to hear everybody’s thoughts. Jimmymci234 (talk) 13:09, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Since there are pages on all of The Players tournaments it is probably consistent to continue with the yearly articles. As an "almost major" the Players usually has had notable coverage in media so it seems the only way to demote it on Wikipedia would be if the sources disappear and the tournament's notability is downgraded by the PGA and public sentiment. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:21, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was intending to add the field but couldn't find a complete list of the entry requirements. It still has a special status in the OWGR system, with a guaranteed 80 points, otherwise it doesn't seem so special at the moment. Can't help feeling that the PGA Tour has shot itself in the foot by excluding the LIV golfers. Nigej (talk) 14:19, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Nigej this may be of use [6] Jimmymci234 (talk) 16:43, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not convinced its accurate. This [[7]] has a "Top 70 on Prior Year's FedExCup Points List through the Playoffs" category which seems to be new. Nigej (talk) 17:23, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's really a distinction without a difference, since all of the top 70 through the Playoffs will be well inside the top 125 after the fall. The handbook (pages 28–29) only lists the top 125 category. Inside the Field lists the top 70 category, and has the categories in quite a different order from the handbook, which is another unimportant distinction. pʰeːnuːmuː →‎ pʰiːnyːmyː → ‎ɸinimi → ‎fiɲimi 19:20, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's ok with yearly articles on The Players, but in my opinion historic senior majors, women's majors, senior women's majors and men's and women's amateur majors have higher priority. Regards, EEJB (talk) 17:03, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]