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Harej (talkcontribs)

Hello, WikiProject Hampshire! Just checking in. How has your work on Wikipedia been going? Have the tools and reports on the WikiProject been useful? Running into challenges using or maintaining the WikiProject? Anything you would like to see changed?

Waggers (talkcontribs)

Hi Harej, thanks for checking in. Overall I think the tools and reports are positive - it's certainly a relief to not have to manually update the project page. There are a few issues with the reports that I think have been mentioned previously, such as:

  • "Discussions" currently says it was last updated 5 months ago by you; when I click on [Refresh] that doesn't change, and nor does the report update. At present all four items in that report relate to the same article (George Bell (bishop)) and the discussions in question were last edited at least three months ago, yet looking through my own contributions I can see there are more recent discussions at:
  • Articles listed under the SuggestBot categories (Add sources, Cleanup, etc) aren't always in scope of the project but tend to be from "related WikiProjects". Since our top "related WikiProject" is WikiProject UK Geography that means the articles SuggestBot comes up with could be from anywhere in the UK rather than specific to Hampshire.

In terms of project membership, many who had "joined" the project previously have not taken the opportunity to rejoin since the implementation of WikiProject X, but we have seen some new members signing up. We don't tend to coordinate our activities as a project very well so it's hard to tell how active the other members of the project are, and it can seem that we're not very active - but actually we've seen several articles climbing up the quality rankings - over the last year we've gone from 9 FAs and 23 GAs to 10 FAs and 31 GAs for example. So it's hard to gauge the effect on involvement.

Now that the Requests feature is up and running we have a bit of work to do to start using it properly, and we need to do better at updating the Announcements section, but those things are down to us.

WP Hampshire was never the most active project and I'm not sure that WP X has changed that significantly (yet), but WPX certainly lowers the amount of maintenance needed to keep the project running and the reports have potential (but would be more useful if the couple of issues mentioned above could be resolved).

Harej (talkcontribs)

Happy to hear that it's made maintenance easier; that was certainly the overall intent. As for the discussions feed, it's been broken for the past several months (unfortunately). We should be getting around to fixing it as soon as we're done with the overall refactor of Reports bot. Likewise with SuggestBot, Nettrom has been working on making the recommendations more project-specific.

I am excited to see you're using the new Wikipedia Requests feature. Let me know if you run into any issues using it; it's quite new and has a lot of rough edges.

Let me know if you need help with anything else.

Waggers (talkcontribs)

Great to see that the discussions feed seems to be up and running again. That's definitely a useful feature - good work!

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Nilfanion (talkcontribs)
Fort Monckton

The Hampshire Hub Partnership has released aerial photography of the entire county under the Open Government License. This is available to download via . The image to the right is a typical example.

This may be useful to Hampshire editors!

Waggers (talkcontribs)

That's hugely exciting, thanks for the heads-up. I'm off to explore right now!

Waggers (talkcontribs)

Here's a slightly easier way of navigating it:

Nilfanion (talkcontribs)

Hmm, that link is certainly easier to navigate. However I'd recommend using the FTP to obtain the final file for upload. Comparing File:Hurst Castle from the air.png to this, the uploaded file has obvious noise compared to the cleaner file on the ftp.

Waggers (talkcontribs)

Thanks, I've used that to create File:Overhead view of Hurst Castle.jpg. I'll mark the png version for deletion as a lower quality duplicate.

Waggers (talkcontribs)

It seems the FTP site is now offline. The link I shared is still operational but as stated above, the quality isn't as good when downloading from there.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talkcontribs)
Newsletter • May / June 2016

Check out this month's issue of the WikiProject X newsletter, featuring the first screenshot of our new CollaborationKit software!

Harej (talk) 00:23, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

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Newsletter • March / April 2016

This month:

Transclude article requests anywhere on Wikipedia

In the last issue of the WikiProject X Newsletter, I discussed the upcoming Wikipedia Requests system: a central database for outstanding work on Wikipedia. I am pleased to announce Wikipedia Requests is live! Its purpose is to supplement automatically generated lists, such as those from SuggestBot, Reports bot, or Wikidata. It is currently being demonstrated on WikiProject Occupational Safety and Health (which I work on as part of my NIOSH duties) and WikiProject Women scientists.

Adding a request is as simple as filling out a form. Just go to the Add form to add your request. Adding sources will help ensure that your request is fulfilled more quickly. And when a request is fulfilled, simply click "mark as complete" and it will be removed from all the lists it's on. All at the click of a button! (If anyone is concerned, all actions are logged.)

With this new service is a template to transclude these requests: {{Wikipedia Requests}}. It's simple to use: add the template to a page, specifying article=, category=, or wikiproject=, and the list will be transcluded. For example, for requests having to do with all living people, just do {{Wikipedia Requests|category=Living people}}. Use these lists on WikiProjects but also for edit-a-thons where you want a convenient list of things to do on hand. Give it a shot!

Help us build our list!

The value of Wikipedia Requests comes from being a centralized database. The long work to migrating individual lists into this combined list is slowly underway. As of writing, we have 883 open tasks logged in Wikipedia Requests. We need your help building this list.

If you know of a list of missing articles, or of outstanding tasks for existing articles, that you would like to migrate to this new system, head on over to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Requests#Transition project and help out. Doing this will help put your list in front of more eyes—more than just your own WikiProject.

An open database means new tools

WikiProject X maintains a database that associates article talk pages (and draft talk pages) with WikiProjects. This database powers many of the reports that Reports bot generates. However, until very recently, this database was not made available to others who might find its data useful. It's only common sense to open up the database and let others build tools with it.

And indeed: Citation Hunt, the game to add citations to Wikipedia, now lets you filter by WikiProject, using the data from our database.

Are you a tool developer interested in using this? Here are some details: the database resides on Tool Labs with the name s52475__wpx_p. The table that associates WikiProjects with articles and drafts is called projectindex. Pages are stored by talk page title but in the future this should change. Have fun!

On the horizon
  • The work on the CollaborationKit extension continues. The extension will initially focus on reducing template and Lua bloat on WikiProjects (especially our WPX UI demonstration projects), and will from there create custom interfaces for creating and maintaining WikiProjects.
  • The WikiCite meeting will be in Berlin in May. The goal of the meeting is to figure out how to build a bibliographic database for use on the Wikimedia projects. This fits in quite nicely with WikiProject X's work: we want to make it easier for people to find things to work on, and with a powerful, open bibliographic database, we can build recommendations for sources. This feature was requested by the Wikipedia Library back in September, and this meeting is a major next step. We look forward to seeing what comes out of this meeting.

Until next time,

Harej (talk) 01:29, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Waggers (talkcontribs)

I'm very surprised that the lists of requests aren't being automatically pulled from existing maintenance categories and tags - there must be hundreds of thousands of articles with such "requests" already on them and it wouldn't be hard to pull those kind of lists from the Wikipedia API, but will take years to do manually.

I'm also surprised how "manual" the process of adding a request is - it involves quite a bit of typing. It needs to be as easy, if not easier, to add a request as it is to tag an article using Twinkle or add a category using HotCat. As things stand there isn't even a link to add a request when viewing an article, or a script or Gadget to add such a link to the Tools menu.

Without those things in place I don't see this catching on. Arguably we already have a centralised list of requests at Category:Wikipedia maintenance and its subcategories, which could be cross-referenced by WikiProject using CatScan or similar. I thought the purpose of Wikipedia Requests was to make that process easier, not to create a whole new industry (which incidentally seems to sit off-wiki).

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Newsletter • February 2016

This month:

One database for Wikipedia requests

Development of the extension for setting up WikiProjects, as described in the last issue of this newsletter, is currently underway. No terribly exciting news on this front.

In the meantime, we are working on a prototype for a new service we hope to announce soon. The problem: there are requests scattered all across Wikipedia, including requests for new articles and requests for improvements to existing articles. We Wikipedians are very good at coming up with lists of things to do. But once we write these lists, where do they end up? How can we make them useful for all editors—even those who do not browse the missing articles lists, or the particular WikiProjects that have lists?

Introducing Wikipedia Requests, a new tool to centralize the various lists of requests around Wikipedia. Requests will be tagged by category and WikiProject, making it easier to find requests based on what your interests are. Accompanying this service will be a bot that will let you generate reports from this database on any wiki page, including WikiProjects. This means that once a request is filed centrally, it can syndicated all throughout Wikipedia, and once it is fulfilled, it will be marked as "complete" throughout Wikipedia. The idea for this service came about when I saw that it was easy to put together to-do lists based on database queries, but it was harder to do this for human-generated requests when those requests are scattered throughout the wiki, siloed throughout several pages. This should especially be useful for WikiProjects that have overlapping interests.

The newsletter this month is fairly brief; not a lot of news, just checking in to say that we are hard at work and hope to have more for you soon.

Until next time,

Harej (talk) 01:44, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

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Call to enable Flow function in English Wikipedia as early as possible

Shwangtianyuan (talkcontribs)

I would like to call to enable user talks' Flow function in English Wikipedia as early as possible, thank you.

Alsee (talkcontribs)

Village Pump (proposals) would be the page for running that RFC. Actually is a Flow RFC currently being drafted by a few editors. A series of Flow pages have received consensus-to-delete, one page got consensus to end the Flow trial and convert back to Talk. The only two remaining Flow pages on EnWiki are this one, and the Flow Testing page. The current draft RFC is a proposal to completely *disable* Flow on EnWiki.

You're certainly welcome to initiate an RFC proposing broad activation of Flow, but I expected it would get SNOWed with Opposes.

Harej (talkcontribs)

Shwangtianyuan, I don't think this is the right place to discuss it. A more proper venue might be Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). Also a fair warning: Flow is a fairly contentious topic, so you will need to make a very persuasive argument.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talkcontribs)
Newsletter • January 2016

Hello there! Happy to be writing this newsletter once more. This month:

What comes next

Some good news: the Wikimedia Foundation has renewed WikiProject X. This means we can continue focusing on making WikiProjects better.

During our first round of work, we created a prototype WikiProject based on two ideas: (1) WikiProjects should clearly present things for people to do, and (2) The content of WikiProjects should be automated as much as possible. We launched pilots, and for the most part it works. But this approach will not work for the long term. While it makes certain aspects of running a WikiProject easier, it makes the maintenance aspects harder.

We are working on a major overhaul that will address these issues. New features will include:

  • Creating WikiProjects by simply filling out a form, choosing which reports you want to generate for your project. This will work with existing bots in addition to the Reports Bot reports. (Of course, you can also have sections curated by humans.)
  • One-click button to join a WikiProject, with optional notifications.
  • Be able to define your WikiProject's scope within the WikiProject itself by listing relevant pages and categories, eliminating the need to tag every talk page with a banner. (You will still be allowed to do that, of course. It just won't be required.)

The end goal is a collaboration tool that can be used by WikiProjects but also by any edit-a-thon or group of people that want to coordinate on improving articles. Though implemented as an extension, the underlying content will be wikitext, meaning that you can continue to use categories, templates, and other features as you normally would.

This will take a lot of work, and we are just getting started. What would you like to see? I invite you to discuss on our talk page.

Until next time,

Harej (talk) 02:53, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

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Samtar (talkcontribs)

Have a good one all!

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Harej (talkcontribs)

To let everyone know, I will be making a change to the {{Load WikiProject Modules}} Lua module, used on this project to render the different sections. This change involves, among other things, moving the different section headers out of the subpages and onto the main WikiProject page. This change will make the WikiProject easier to use and maintain. During this change, there may be a brief time window where the WikiProject page looks broken. Once the changes are finished, everything should be restored to normal. If not, purge your cache and it will work. If there are any bugs, please let me know promptly on my talk page. Thank you.

Harej (talkcontribs)

This work should now be done. Please let me know if there are any bugs.

Samtar (talkcontribs)

Looking good :)

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Waggers (talkcontribs)

Just a heads-up that there's a new requested move for this article. This time I find myself on the other side of the fence to last time!

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