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- 1 Attention: Potions in Harry Potter will be placed for AfD on June 4, 2016
- 2 Category:Harry Potter in the real world has been nominated for discussion
- 3 Rename articles
- 4 Harry Potter characters
- 5 Fantastic Beasts
- 6 Potential Good Topic nomination
- 7 Links to "List of spells in Harry Potter"
Attention: Potions in Harry Potter will be placed for AfD on June 4, 2016
In November of 2007 Potions in Harry Potter was deleted as a the result of a deletion discussion due to its failure of WP:FICT, WP:PLOT, WP:WAF, and other issues. On June 4, 2015 the article was recreated from content then currently existing on the Magical objects in Harry Potter article. A discussion followed regarding the appropriateness of the recreation. An attempt was made to return this article to a redirect, which was undone a day later. Some months later, a notice was placed on the article's talk page indicating the article would be placed for deletion. A few days ago, the article was placed for proposed deletion. This too was undone.
Throughout the history of the article, which spans more than a decade, it has never had any references. It has always been written in in-universe style. No outside universe perspective has ever been provided. As of June 2016, it will have been tagged for both of these problems for a year. I have asked, begged, and pleaded with people to rewrite this article to no avail. As the article stands (and has always stood), it continues to fail WP:FICT, WP:PLOT, and WP:WAF. There have been suggestions to merge the content back to Magical objects in Harry Potter, but this completely fails to address the failures noted. Where the content exists, either in its own article or as part of another, matters not. The issue is the content itself.
Barring a massive rewrite of the entire article into something that is encyclopedic in its treatment of the subject, I will be placing it for deletion on June 4, 2016. This notice is being sent as a last ditch attempt to find one or more people willing to do something to fix the serious problems extant in this content. Thank you for your attention, --Hammersoft (talk) 17:19, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
- Done. Please, those of you who are fans of HP do not just vote keep because you are a fan of HP. We're an encyclopedia, not a Wikia host. HP has a wikia. We're not it. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:18, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
Category:Harry Potter in the real world has been nominated for discussion
Category:Harry Potter in the real world, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for upmerging to Category:Harry Potter. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:47, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
With the imminent release of Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them, the time has come to begin the great debate about whether to rename the following articles:
--not an exhaustive list, there are some redirects floating around as well. I humbly submit to you that all of these, including Cursed Child and Fantastic Beasts, fall under J.K. Rowling's Wizarding World and as such, we need to officially widen the scope of existing articles from Harry-Potter-centric to Wizarding-World-centric. Perhaps Wizarding World is a good shorthand for the franchise name. Perhaps "J.K. Rowling's Wizarding World" is too long for article titles and disambiguations. Let's open the discussion. Elizium23 (talk) 06:02, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
- I think that is a very premature idea at the least. It might be that in years to come that new tag becomes as widely known as Harry Potter, but frankly that is unlikely. Wikipedia has no business jumping the gun to fit with a film studio's attempts at rebranding. Mezigue (talk) 09:02, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
- This is a question of scope, not branding. The questions before you are: are we going to allow characters from outside the Harry Potter film series to proliferate in articles named "Harry Potter"? Are we going to narrow the scope and create a separate, parallel system of articles for Fantastic Beasts? Or are we going to acknowledge the shared universe, rename the articles, and thereby widen the scope to properly include all of the Wizarding World in the same articles? Elizium23 (talk) 23:41, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
Article fork alert
This article has been created ostensibly to distinguish the Fantastic Beasts film series from the Harry Potter (film series) and to keep content out of the latter. However, the scope of the former article is all-inclusive, and this means that the scope is inappropriately large, given the continuing existence of the latter article. I think the time has come to discuss the scope of such articles and whether my proposal above should be given some consideration, being that we are poised at the outset of a series of five films set in the Wizarding World that threaten to bloat Harry Potter-related articles beyond recognition if scope is not addressed forthwith. Elizium23 (talk) 05:45, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
Harry Potter characters
I wonder if someone who is very familiar with the Harry Potter series would be kind enough to look at a brief passage from Greg Louganis and give an informed opinion. The most recent relevant edit is this one, which is still wrong. (I'd just fix it, but I "don't know what I'm talking about" and apparently "name" is synonymous with "character".) RivertorchFIREWATER 07:04, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
Potential Good Topic nomination
I notice that all seven Harry Potter novels are Good Articles, which is amazing, and I think they should form a Good topic. I believe that the articles already meet all of the criteria – and Harry Potter could be the lead article – but the criteria page recommends consulting the major contributors to the topic before making a nomination; many of them seem inactive, so I am posting here to see if anyone has any arguments against a GT nomination, or any other thoughts on the subject. (The criteria page also recommends that nominators have detailed subject knowledge; while I haven't worked on any of the articles in question, I've read most of them from top to bottom and am a huge, huge fan of the series.)
Links to "List of spells in Harry Potter"
After the recent closure of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of spells in Harry Potter, many links to spell names are now red. These links should probably be removed (or some of them pointed elsewhere). —Kusma (t·c) 12:25, 4 July 2017 (UTC)