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Historiography of the ancient world[edit]

Greetings, historians; does anyone know where to find the Wikipedia article about 'historiography of the ancient world', i.e. the story of how studies of "ancient history" has changed over time? My impression is that "ancient history" and "biblical studies" were confluent and focused on Egypt, Babylon, and Israel—until the 19th century, when, with new information from modern archaeology, the former evolved and expanded to include Sumer, India, and beyond. And from there to today's conception which includes more ideas about the early history of civilization and does more to include East Asia. I haven't yet seen a page overviewing this transformation in historiography but I suspect that people here might know of one. Thanks, groupuscule (talk) 15:20, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

@Groupuscule: Good to see you here. Maybe try New historicism as a jumping off point? I have an entire section in my Literary criticism book that lists numerous authors and have a number of good essays. The book is [1].


  1. ^ Rice, Philip; Waugh, Patricia (1992). Modern Literary Theory: A Reader. U.K.: Edward Arnold. pp. 261–308. ISBN 0-340-57599-9. 
--David Tornheim (talk) 01:07, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
Hi Mr. Tornheim, good to "see" you also :-) I'm not really sure what to do with the literary criticism angle; does this get much into changing perception of ancient Mesopotamia? Maybe Historiography of the ancient world needs its own article. (Not at all sure this would be the correct name.) But I'd rather find some other place where this material already exists. groupuscule (talk) 18:42, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
Are you looking at this from a contemporary standpoint (historiography at the time), or from a modern POV? There's been a radical change in view of what historiography, of what history, is; even in the 18th Century, rumor & outright fiction weren't considered out of bounds. (So you'll see Herodotus talking about the fantastic as if it was real, & nobody at the time, or well into the modern era, would've imagined calling him on it.) Can I source that? No; I got this from an Ancient Greek History prof of mine... Still, if you look at period accounts, you'll frequently see things treated seriously & wonder, "WTF?", so...that's why. Hope that's some help, anyhow. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 23:41, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

England in the Late Middle Ages[edit]

Would somebody mind having a look at this issue?--Erdic (talk) 18:38, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Another RM at Talk:List of political parties in the Republic of China[edit]

Hello. I invite you to comment at Talk:List of political parties in the Republic of China#Requested move 24 May 2017. --George Ho (talk) 05:06, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

WP:Citation overkill RfC[edit]

Opinions are needed on the following matter: Wikipedia talk:Citation overkill#Should this essay be changed to encourage more citations?. A WP:Permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 01:33, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Primacy discussed at Talk:Joint Communiqué[edit]

Hello. I opened the discussion at Talk:Joint Communiqué about the current title and primacy role of Joint Communiqué, an agreement between South Vietnam and Buddhist sect. --George Ho (talk) 00:50, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

History of Money[edit]

History of Money article has multiple issues, see the talkpage. Alæxis¿question? 06:25, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

RfC on Historical Naming[edit]


There is an RfC on Talk:Iran that might be of interest to members of this WikiProject.


Genealogizer (talk) 04:34, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

RfC regarding the WP:Lead guideline -- the first sentence[edit]

Opinions are needed on the following matter: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Lead section#Request for comment on parenthetical information in first sentence. A WP:Permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 04:55, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

GA reassessment: Bio / history article[edit]

An article that is of interest to this project has been nominated for community reassessment. The discussion can be found here:

Interested editors are invited to weigh in. K.e.coffman (talk) 02:41, 12 July 2017 (UTC)