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Daikon split discussion[edit]

Please come participate in the split discussion regarding the Daikon article. Thank you. --Epulum (talk) 06:42, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Overuse of national flag[edit]

I'm finding a LOT of these, as though it's a formula to shove it into the infobox. On the contrary, en.WP's guidelines say not to do that unless there's some particular reason to do so. Some exception is made (although is controversial) for flags in sports articles. Tony (talk) 05:11, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

@Tony1: Example? Trying to understand what you're talking about? HaEr48 (talk) 05:30, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

The use of a flagicon to represent Indonesia in infoboxes. There are tons, which need to be removed unless there's a good reason to retain, case by case. Tony (talk) 08:28, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Tony your edit history of the last 5 years or more shows a pervading interest in flags, if you really want to make yourslf feel particularly unwell, try soccer articles in any project, not just this one. JarrahTree 02:56, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Energy in Indonesia[edit]

I came across this edit when scanning through potential vandalism. I don't have any experience with this, so I was wondering if you could see if this was somehow salvageable with references and/or being re-written, otherwise an AFG revert will have to do. Thanks for your time in advance! Best, Nicnote • ask me a question • contributions 23:12, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Ping - User:HaEr48 and User:JarrahTree. Nicnote • ask me a question • contributions 23:12, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
I really have no clue.. It has a lot of details, yet zero references. I'd suggest reverting and leaving a note for the user to include reference if they wish to restore the content. HaEr48 (talk) 02:32, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
Very typical of low level english editor leaving things on wikipedia project for the last ten years. No ref, and no return. No need to get hung up on details, revert JarrahTree 02:53, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
@HaEr48: and @JarrahTree: Thanks guys, really appreciate the feedback, I just thought it might be best to double check with you before it was reverted. Best, Nicnote • ask me a question • contributions 09:14, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

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Deletion requests files in Category:Flags of provinces of Indonesia[edit]

Feel free to put your opinion here. Thank you. Hddty. (talk) 09:32, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

The result is keep. Hddty. (talk) 12:03, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Popular pages report[edit]

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Corythalia voluta[edit]

Corythalia voluta is a species of spider that is already covered in Indonesian. It needs to be created in English. An article already exists in the Indonesian Wikipedia at id:Corythalia voluta, despite the subject having little to no affinity to Indonesia, since the animal lives in El Salvador This project is being notified because the subject already exists on the Indonesian Wikipedia, meaning that someone reading that article has to either know Indonesian or use a translator. WikiProject Spiders, WikiProject El Salvador have also been notified. Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs) 17:04, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

@Mr. Guye: FWIW, I checked the Indonesian article is just a few-sentence stub. Not sure if it's worth people's time to translate it. HaEr48 (talk) 20:55, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
@Mr. Guye: id-wiki most likely translated it from one of the other wikis. According to the revision histories, the dutch wiki got there first in 2011 (not surprised about that; nl-wiki is really a quantity-over-quality project). Quality-wise, I think the Swedish page page is probably a better start. --HyperGaruda (talk) 15:27, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Copyright law of 2014[edit]

A user at commons:Template talk:PD-IDGov, about how governmental portraits are exempt from the copyright law, said that the new copyright law contrary to Commons policy because: "the words translated as 'with due regard to dignity and fairness' (dengan memperhatikan martabat dan kewajaran) prevent use of an image in parody or political attack ads and, therefore, prevent use on Commons. Commons images must be free for any use whatsoever without any regard for dignity or fairness."

What is your opinion on this? Hddty. (talk) 06:01, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Districts and sub districts - aka Kabupaten and Kecamatan[edit]

Please note that there is regularly well meant changing of things to do with these terms

Please note the conversation at

Please note that this has been discussed before and there should not be reversions JarrahTree 15:19, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

I have moved the page since there was no opposition; the discussion can now be found at Talk:List of subdistricts of Indonesia#Translation of kecamatan. --HyperGaruda (talk) 09:15, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
In addition, there is a requested mass move discussion at Talk:Districts of South Sumatra. --HyperGaruda (talk) 12:17, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

edit needed on Gender in Bugis society[edit]

§ Bissu of Gender in Bugis society says (fourth paragraph)

The advice of bissu* is typically sought to get a particular approval from the powers of the batin (hidden) world. One example is for Bugis who leave Sulawesi for the Hajj, the compulsory pilgrimage to Mecca. The bissu then seizes them and proceeds as an emissary of the batin.

* Androgynous bissu are priests, shamans, sorcerers, or mediums.

The underlined sentence is either nonsense, unlikely (kidnapping), or impossible (possession) and should be made understandable by someone knowledgeable.

I am also posting this to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject LGBT studies.

See Talk:Gender in Bugis society #"seized"?, and please also put all discussion there. --Thnidu (talk) 01:25, 19 September 2017 (UTC)