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'Lepidoptera described in YYYY' categories submitted to CfD[edit]

@ Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 October 12#Category:Lepidoptera described in 1758, per Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life#Request for comment: categorizing by year of formal description & Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Insects#'Insects described in' category tree mostly ok?.   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  21:28, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Adelium / Adeliini[edit]

I found the article Adelium today, which is a genus of beetles. The taxobox puts this in the tribe Adeliini, but that is a tribe of wasps. I'm not sure which article is wrong, but it seems that there is a problem here. The WikiSpecies entry species:Adeliini refers to beetles.-gadfium 08:03, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Adeliini Kirby, 1828 (the beetles) appears to have priority over Adeliini (derived from Adeliinae Viereck, 1918) (the wasps). The underlying issue is having two genera whose names differ only in gender, Adelium Kirby, 1818 (the beetles) and Adelius Haliday, 1833 (the wasps), so that any family-group names formed from them in the normal way will be the same. Article 29.6 of the ICZN deals with this: "An author wishing to establish a new family-group name must avoid its homonymy with any known previously established names by forming an appropriate stem from the name of the type genus. ... As a means of avoiding homonymy between a new family-group name and a previously established one ... an author is advised to use the entire name of the type genus of the new family-group taxon as the stem." So as Adeliini existed already, it appears that the tribe of wasps should have been called "Adeliusini". Peter coxhead (talk) 09:55, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
@Dyanega: you may be interested in this, as I see you are involved with both the ICZN and Hymenoptera. Peter coxhead (talk) 09:59, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
As a temporary fix, I've made Adeliini a disambiguation page and moved the wasp tribe to Adeliini (wasp). Peter coxhead (talk) 10:27, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
This source says explicitly that the beetle tribe name is a senior homonym of the wasp tribe name, and goes on to say that the case is to be referred to the Commission to resolve the homonymy. I can't discover whether this has happened or not; Dyanega may be able to help. Peter coxhead (talk) 11:04, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks Peter. This was far outside my area of competance.-gadfium 17:31, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks VERY much, Peter! It does look, from what I can glean myself, that this may be a genuine unreplaced homonym, and I've just contacted three chelonine braconid workers and one beetle worker who have all published pertinent works recently. Hopefully we can get this sorted out, but for now your edits are definitely the best possible approach as a stop-gap, and very much appreciated. Dyanega (talk) 18:17, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
Web hits are pretty overwhelming referring to the beetles, so I think they could be returned to the base title (with a hatnote) once a replacement name for the wasps is published. Pertaining to a Taxacom discussion @Dyanega: commented on, sequence data for some undetermined wasp species is liable to cause some problems down the line. Plantdrew (talk) 19:55, 8 November 2018 (UTC) Oh no! BOLD has the wasps as well. If major genetic focused resources are pushing the wasp, maybe it is better to keep a dab page at the base title. Plantdrew (talk) 20:05, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Bioluminescent insects category[edit]

Hello, are all 2,100 species of Lampyridae bioluminescent? If so, then it could be possible to include the Category:Lampyridae as a subcategory of Category:Bioluminescent insects. --Snek01 (talk) 15:52, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

WP:JOURNALS needs help[edit]

Most of the top-cited journals without articles on Wikipedia belong to entomology. There are more than just the following (see WP:JCW/Missing1), but we've got

All of those are cited hundreds if not thousands of times. Help writing the journal articles (or website or whatever) would be greatly appreciated. We have a guide for that at WP:JWG, which means writing a solid journal article takes 20-30 minute. It's possible some of those don't warrant full articles, but could be sections in another article. E.g. maybe a dedicated section inside the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services article is best for Arthropods of Florida and Neighboring Areas.

Thanks for any help you can give! Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 14:30, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Revising Systematics and taxonomy section of Odonata[edit]

Please see my comment at Talk:Odonata. Jee 12:41, 19 November 2018 (UTC)