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Request for help[edit]

Hi to all,

Hope you are doing well. I am coming over from No Gun Ri Massacre, where a heated debate has been going for years, on-and-off. In essence, the dispute arises from contradicting sources. If anyone would be so kind as to come over and help me out, particularly through mediating and arbitrating the feud, I would be tremendously appreciative. Experienced dispute resolution mediators are ideal, but any help is great. Also, any volunteers will receive my custom-made No Gun Ri barnstar for their heroic efforts. If you simply wish to watch the argument unfold, that's also fine.

If you want to read up a bit on the event itself, here are a smattering of sources that might help out:

Article on the massacre in general: [1]
Legal implications: [2]
Washington Post article: [3]
Article by Charles Hanley: [4]
Thesis on the massacre: [5]


GeneralizationsAreBad (talk) 17:52, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Whoa. Just went over there and slammed into the wall of text, and that's gonna take some time to get through. However, I think I might be able to improve at least something. Dakarias (talk) 01:26, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
It's not my area but I took a look at that debate awhile ago and felt true fear...good luck to you brave soul.Peachywink (talk) 03:42, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

"King of Hell"[edit]

The usage and primary topic of "King of Hell" is under discussion, see talk:King of Hell (disambiguation) -- (talk) 05:18, 20 July 2015 (UTC)


Could someone who can read the Korean-language sources please give attention to Chunseong, with a view to bringing it to an acceptable standard. Most of the present text is impenetrable. Thanks: Noyster (talk), 13:09, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Why should we bring this article to any standard (apart from standard deletion) ? Pldx1 (talk) 10:11, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

I'll try cleaning it up. Jangdan (talk) 02:24, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

I think we should update all romanizations to the Revised Romanization system?[edit]

As you probably know, the South Korean government has issued a new romanization system that is, in my opinion, more superior to the old McCune–Reischauer system. McCune–Reischauer is hard to read and write. Extra marks on top of vowels, and apostrophes after strong sounds (like Ch'ungch'ŏngdo (충청도)) distracts fluent reading. RR doesn't have any marks on top of vowels (whatever they're called) and it can be read much more closely to the native Korean pronounciation. Widely used Korean words such as Paektu and Chaebol aren't romanized to the current system. Of course, living in Korea, I see a transition phase, I see these two systems both being used widely, with the state defined Revised Romanization gaining more traction. The English Wikipedia should too, start converting old romanizaitons to newer verisions.

Some points that must be thought through a little more though:

  1. It's not fair because North Korea doesn't acknowledge the Revised Romanization system.
  2. Some expressions already entered the English language (maybe even Chaebol?) with the McCune–Reischauer system. I don't think these can be fixed.

Your thoughts?????

Jangdan (talk) 02:22, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

  1. Leave McCune for NK articles, replace McCune with RR for SK articles. For article covering both Korea, decide it case-by-case.
  2. If some words are "fixed", leave it as is as it is not romanization of Korean anymore.
— regards, Revi 17:05, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
The relevant guideline is MOS:KO#Romanization and it already says use RR for SK articles and MR for NK articles. I think using MR for NK articles makes a great deal of sense since these are very often the common names of the subjects. Not only does NK use the system, as Jangdan (talk · contribs) points out, but academic literature on NK uses it too.
WP:Common name| also overrides any concerns about established spellings not conforming to the preferred system of romanization. We should use the most recognizable name, as with all other topics. Finnusertop (talk | guestbook | contribs) 19:48, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
I think that sums it up. We just need to see if the titles are the 'most recognizable name'. And if it isn't, we're gonna change it. Okay. Jangdan (talk) 10:29, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

  • Dear 장단. Are you Jangdan like 'Presidency' or 'Rythm' or 'Long and Short'? Anyway, the 'new romanization' seems to be as new as year 2000, i.e. not that new. And the usage here is to comply with the BukRom/NamRom duality, using BukRom for specific North's matters and NamRom for the others. This is foremost an acknowledgment of which government governs which part of the world. Nevertheless, a problem to live with is the huge mass of random romanizations from the past. And therefore the most efficient way is to provide the original, Korean, name. According to Sejong's advertizing, the romanizations are only provided for those people that can't learn what a child could learn in a small period! Pldx1 (talk) 11:37, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
Hello! Yes, 장단 is the Jangdan rhythm, I like traditional Korean music. It's also related to my real name haha. I agree with everything you said, and I love your Sejong joke(?). It seems you aren't one of those people who need romanizations. Nice! If only we could have non-alphabet titles for Wiki titles. Jangdan (talk) 10:16, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

RfC at Talk:Joseon[edit]

there is currently an RfC at Talk:Joseon#RfC: Joseon Kingdom or Joseon Dynasty?. ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 09:27, 17 August 2015 (UTC)


Just a heads up that I updated the Ko-hhrm template to include an optional parameter (links=no) that disables the wikilinks in the template. The lang‑ko template already uses this parameter. It can be useful for articles that use the template multiple times to comply with WP:OLINK. Ry's the Guy (talk|contribs) 10:13, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

I also added the optional parameter "context=old" which displays Hunminjeongeum instead of Hangul or Chosungul, based on a comment on the template's talk page suggesting that there should be a more neutral term that can be used in articles about events before 1945. I'm open to suggestions about whether this should be modified in any way. Additionally the parameter "lit=" can be used to add a literal translation. Ry's the Guy (talk|contribs) 14:06, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
While we're on the topic, what is the correct way to display romanization only (without hangul) with language templates? The only way I've figured that doesn't render the hangul field at all is: [[McCune–Reischauer|MR]]: {{Hangugeo|||Chosŏn}}, which displays: MR: Chosŏn Finnusertop (talk | guestbook | contribs) 19:59, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
There's no way to do it with Template:Korean, at least that I know of. Your way might be the only way. Just curious, why would you want to include a romanization but not the corresponding Hangul? Do you have an example of an article in which you'd like to do this? Ry's the Guy (talk|contribs) 08:01, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
Sometimes I don't know the hangul because I'm not a Korean speaker and my sources only include a romanization. For an example, see On the Art of the Cinema: "humanics" (MR: inganhak); "speed campaign" (MR: sokto-jon). I have a ton of other questions about these Korean language templates too as I find the documentation very much inadequate. Finnusertop (talk | guestbook | contribs) 12:06, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
If you have any questions, feel free to post to my talk page and I'll do what I can to help. Thanks for your contributions! Ry's the Guy (talk|contribs) 12:34, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Input needed[edit]

See Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/ Thank you, FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 16:54, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Input requested[edit]

There is a discussion going on at Template talk:Hangugeo about whether this template is useful. Any input from Wikiproject Korea members would be appreciated. Thanks! Ry's the Guy (talk|contribs) 10:20, 3 September 2015 (UTC)


Hey, the article Hello Ghost is currently up for AfD. I'm finding coverage to show that it looks to be quite notable, but I have a huge language barrier since I don't speak/read Korean and I'm relying on Google Translate. Can anyone help? Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 03:36, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Korean diaspora.png[edit]

File:Korean diaspora.png has been nominated for deletion -- (talk) 05:50, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Creative Common Summit next week in Seoul[edit]

Some Wikipedians from abroad are attending it, as are WMF representatives. I'll be there. If anyone else is going, or would just like to catch up for a lunch/dinner, it may be a good idea to chat here. More info: [6]. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:26, 9 October 2015 (UTC)