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WikiProject icon WikipediaWikiProject Lutheranism is part of WikiProject Lutheranism, an effort to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to Lutheranism on Wikipedia. This includes but is not limited to Lutheran churches, Lutheran theology and worship, and biographies of notable Lutherans. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.
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The Kasemann page needs to be updated, i.e., a book needs to be added to his list of books, i.e.

On Being a Disciple of the Crucified Nazarene: Unpublished Lectures and Sermons (2011) (talk) 02:46, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Differentiation of Churches Needed[edit]

I'm a Lutheran in the US. A lot of churches here call themselves 'Concordia Lutheran' as a reference to the Lutheran Confessions (and they aren't associated with the Swedish sect). We need to link 'Concordia Lutheran' to a disambiguation, rather than the article with which it's currently associated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:18, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

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Expert help needed[edit]

As a neutral and hopefully mediating position related to Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy parts, I also ask for help here.

A few sections in Catholic–Eastern Orthodox theological differences have a seemingly inferior logic that perhaps affects a larger selection of subsections. Those interested who are proficient in theology, philosophy and logic, might give a helping hand by assessing relevant subsections and giving comment at the talk page HERE! Thank you for your attention, and otherwise happy editing! Rursus dixit. (mbork3!) 09:17, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Assessment of John Calvin[edit]

Article is currently assessed as Low-importance for this WikiProject. Please reassess. __meco (talk) 13:34, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern[edit]

Please distinguish Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, the chorale, as of 27 July 2010, from the Bach cantata Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, BWV 1 that formerly had this name. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:41, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Please, rename Hungarian Evangelical Church[edit]

Hi, I am a hungarian lutheran pastor. Please, rename Hungarian Evangelical Church. The correct name would be Evangelical Lutheran Church in Hungary or Lutheran Church in Hungary. Thanks. - Tkarcsi (talk) 20:14, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

I have moved the article and used the name from the English website. --παγκρἃτωρ/pankrator 20:27, 5 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pankrator (talkcontribs)

Thanks a lot. - Tkarcsi (talk) 16:13, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome. --παγκρἃτωρ/pankrator 17:13, 6 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pankrator (talkcontribs)

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Christianity portals[edit]

I am currently trying to get together some lists of articles relevant to each Christianity-related portal which could be used, at least potentially, to help bring all the extant portals up to Featured Portal status. The current, admittedly incomplete, list of articles, images, etc., relevant to each portal can be found at User:John Carter/Christianity portals. I also think that, at least in theory, we would probably best use a single article only in a single portal, and that we probably have enough articles to do that, although there might be a few exceptions. I would welcome input from anyone on the associated talk page regarding which articles and other materials they would like to see associated with which portal(s), any suggestions for additional portals or changes to existing portals, etc. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 15:38, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Zion Lutheran Church in Fredericksburg, Texas[edit]

Zion Lutheran Church (Fredericksburg, Texas) was part of Fredericksburg, Texas, but the content as it then existed on that page, took up almost the entirety of what was then "Fredericksburg in Religion". Because of the historic significance of the church, I felt it needed its own page. The wording was unchanged when I moved it over, and is not text of mine. Possibly, the text was lifted verbatim from a church brochure. I would encourage any interested editors who can re-work the text and provide verifiable sourcing to do so. The subject is worthy of its own page, but it needs considerable work. Maile66 (talk) 20:59, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

International Lutheran Fellowship[edit]

There appears to be an active dispute at International Lutheran Fellowship. Seventeen new editors have rewritten the page, which apparently involves some dispute. There isn't a single source. Could some experienced editors add it to their watchlist and help to make some sense out of the issues?   Will Beback  talk  08:49, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Request for input in discussion forum[edit]

Given the closely linked subjects of the various religion, mythology, and philosophy groups, it seems to me that we might benefit from having some sort of regular topical discussion forum to discuss the relevant content. I have put together the beginnings of an outline for such discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Religion/2011 meeting, and would very much appreciate the input of any interested editors. I am thinking that it might run over two months, the first of which would be to bring forward and discuss the current state of the content, and the second for perhaps some more focused discussion on what, if any, specific efforts might be taken in the near future. Any and all input is more than welcome. John Carter (talk)

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Collaboration Article of the Month[edit]

Just letting everyone know that I removed the Collaboration of the Month, after suspecting that nobody has been paying attention to it for some years. After Lucas Cranach the Elder was made COTM article for July 2011, not a single article was made to the article during the entire month. Therefore, I have decided to be bold and remove the COTM from the WikiProject page. If there are any objections to this, we can discuss them here. I would love more collaboration! Cognate247 (talk) 22:48, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Opinion sought regarding Eternal Life[edit]

We are having a 3 way discussion on the issue of Eternal Life in Christianity.

The specific issue at hand is that of eternal life being only "here and now" vs having a component "in the future" as well.

A few informed comments based on suitable sources will be appreciated. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 12:48, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Potentially malicious acts at Wilhelm Busch (pastor)[edit]

I'd like to ask for 3rd party opinion, in the article on Wilhelm Busch (pastor) there been performed deletions that I personally regard for strange. The claim is that edits are removed because "material not relevant to articles subject. (TW)" but I regard the text for absolutely OK as it correctly states from sourced information that pastor Busch influenced Ulrich Parzany, who continued after Billy Graham in ProChrist evangelic international campaigns. Moreover, the book by Busch has been removed from article sections dedicated to Bibliography (* Busch, Wilhelm (2009). Plaudereien in meinem Studierzimmer [Small talks in my study] (in German) (11 ed.). p. 299. ISBN 978-3761557044.  Text "publisher Aussaat " ignored (help)) under the same flag which sounds absolutely irrational to me. Please advise. --Stephfo (talk) 17:50, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Proposed redirection of Christianity subproject talk pages[edit]

I have recently started discussion about possibly eliminating the use of a separate talk page for it here. Input from any interested editors is very welcome and encouraged. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 22:19, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Lutheran Music[edit]

I have a background in Lutheran church music and can start an article on it. I am looking for some feedback concerning the scope for the article. The article could focus on:

  • Lutheran composers
  • Musical compositions used in Lutheran liturgy
  • Lutheran hymnody
  • History of Lutheran music

My idea right now is to start with a short history of Lutheran music. Beyond this, the issue is origin verses use. Commits, questions, suggestions? Weberc (talk) 16:17, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Here is the article as it is being constructed. Weberc (talk) 17:45, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm very interested in helping with this article if I have time. Although I'm not an ultimate expert on the subject, I've devoted a lot of time researching it as a church musician and as someone who enjoys preserving the heritage of Lutheran hymnody. I'll open up the talk page on that proposed article. Thanks! --Dulcimerist (talk) 16:32, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
I proofread it and helped to smooth out the existing material. Hopefully the changes I made aren't too drastic, as I ended up making more adjustments and spending much more time with the article than I had intended. I apologize if I did too much work on it. Please let me know if I can be of more help. Thanks for starting this article! --Dulcimerist (talk) 07:20, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
Cool. I'm glad you are working on it!--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 02:24, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Christian Symbolism Article[edit]

Should the Christian symbolism article have a WikiProject Lutheranism tag on it? It seems somewhat relevant to our WikiProject, although it would likely be a low priority. I don't know how to go about adding the tag, and thought I should ask here first before adding the tag anyway. Thanks! --Dulcimerist (talk) 16:48, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Go ahead. Try to include it the way it is on the Lutheranism page-- as a Christianity article that is project Lutheranism supported. You could copy and paste, but you would need to change the importance.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 02:23, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

FAR notice[edit]

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I just noticed[edit]

that Michaelangelo shows up on the Category:People celebrated in the Lutheran liturgical calendar and I was wondering why that might be, or more to the point, if it is accurate. So I decided to pass this on to you to figure out. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 18:26, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

It does appear to be true, but I would question whether it is a DEFINING characteristic of Michaelangelo, and therefore an appropriate categorization. It appears that many people who are celebrated in various churches have been categorized without any regard for categorization guidelines. --JFH (talk) 15:35, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Portraits of 42 protestant reformers[edit]

Hi everyone! You may want to have a look at this recently uploaded high resolution picture with portraits of 42 protestant reformers.Beat Estermann (talk) 22:55, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Communicatio idiomatum: Lutheran-Reformed debate[edit]

I am working on expanding the patristics aspect of this article but don't know enough to tackle the section on the "Lutheran-Reformed debate" which is unreferenced at the moment. Help would be appreciated. Jpacobb (talk) 21:21, 27 March 2013 (UTC)


Why Beerwolf, when the German is clearly Bearwolf?--DThomsen8 (talk) 01:05, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

AfC submission[edit]

This submission might be of interest to this WikiProject. Regards, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 18:49, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Bengt Sundkler[edit]

Dear Lutherans: This AfC submission will be deleted soon as a stale draft. Is this a notable subject, and should the page be kept and improved instead? —Anne Delong (talk) 15:11, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Anne Delong. I believe this person is notable. He was a professor and had four honorary doctor degrees, including at the University of Tübingen which is a leading university of Lutheran theology.(Diff). His book Bantu Prophets has almost 1000 citations according to Google Scholar which I think is quite high for a modern theological work. And he also had roles of importance outside academica. The article also seems to be in relatively good shape, pretty similar to his Swedish Wikipedia article. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 15:25, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Iselilja. I have added the online link that you provided and created a citation with that reference. I added the Google Scholar report to External links. I also found another book reference at the Swedish Wikipedia and added it to the reference section. I did some copyediting and removed some promotional language. The article needs work, particularly some inline citations and wikilinks, but since it's not a BLP I have accepted it and it's at Bengt Sundkler. —Anne Delong (talk) 16:42, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

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Great Apostasy[edit]

Hi. I'd like members to have a look at these edits and the accompanying discussion at Talk:Great Apostasy. It seems to me that they alter the Overview section in a POV way, giving undue weight to fringe Protestant views of the Catholic Church such as idol-worship, worship of Mary, and the hybrid "pagan Mother-Son worship". And not only that, but these fringe views are copied to the lead, totally skewing it. The citations are a collection of far-out Christian websites:,,,,, and a self-published 1914 pamphlet, The Practice of Idolatry, none of which come anywhere near satisfying WP:RS. Any input into the discussion is welcome. I'm copying this to other Christian WikiProjects. Scolaire (talk) 15:19, 4 September 2017 (UTC)