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Elizabeth of Bosnia FAC[edit]

Last month I nominated the article about Elizabeth of Bosnia for FA status, but it has not attracted enough reviewers yet. Elizabeth governed or directly influenced much of central Europe in the 1380s, but ended up losing her head. The article (rated GA) is of interest to WikiProject Middle Ages, and I would be very grateful if a member of this WikiProject commented on the nomination. Surtsicna (talk) 13:00, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Request for Comment[edit]

There's an RfC about inclusion of UK constituent countries in the Europe Topic template. Chris Troutman (talk) 19:33, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Peer review/Stephen I of Hungary/archive1[edit]

I initiated a peer review of Stephen I of Hungary, a GA, before its FAN. I would appreciate comments on this article about the first King of Hungary who is also a popular saint in Central Europe. Borsoka (talk) 06:11, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Have left some comments... Hchc2009 (talk) 15:02, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers[edit]

Interesting research. This can affect several pages. Have they published any of their findings however? We should wait until they do that, and then cite their papers directly. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 14:24, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

There have been a number of suggestions like this in recent years, but it remains controversial. And no, we should not normally use primary sources, but wait for secondary ones. The "Causes" section of Black Death has long covered the arguments as to what it was and how it spread, and I see someone has already added this story, probably prematurely. Johnbod (talk) 14:41, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
Yes. What The Guardian is talking about is a theory, not a proven fact. While it's exciting to add it's also ill-advised. Let's wait 30 years and see how this shakes out. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:45, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Byzantines CfDs[edit]

There are two CfDs right now relevant to Byzantine history:

I support both, the idea is to replace the use of modern or religious place names with the contemporary name "Byzantine Empire" or a part of which. Of course it is being opposed by religious or nationalistic indignants. Please tell your opinion. trespassers william (talk) 20:32, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Medieval censorship[edit]

This essay is up for deletion at WP:AfD. Please help! Bearian (talk) 16:41, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Leaflet for Wikiproject Middle Ages at Wikimania 2014[edit]

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AfC submission - 07/07[edit]

Draft:Sir Richard Threston. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 18:50, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

East-West Schism article proposed name change[edit]

Please see the discussion here. RFC.

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal[edit]

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Gelou: peer review[edit]

All comments would be appreciated here. Thank you in advance. Borsoka (talk) 03:07, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Invasion of England (1326)[edit]

Infobox help - looks like someone wants France to be in this articles infobox when the article mentions nothing about an invasion from France let alone French troops. Can anyone shed some light on this? Shire Lord 21:41, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Magna Carta[edit]

This article from the Observer points out that it will be the 800th anniversary of the signing of the Magna Carta next year (15 June 2015) and suggests there will be various TV and radio programmes (and books etc) to coincide with the significant date. I note this article regularly gets 150,000+ page views per month and this is likely to increase. Would it be worth trying to get a collaboration going to get it to at least GA or even FA standard before the anniversary?— Rod talk 18:50, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Menumorut: peer review[edit]

All comments on this article about an allegedly Khazar ruler in the Carpathian Basin around 900 are appreciated here. Borsoka (talk) 07:50, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Medieval Household[edit]

The Medieval Household article looks like it's been hacked about a bit in the middle. There's quite a bit of text written in this style: "You think, it's the middle ages of course it is going to be the Lord of the house, as it is he who represents the house in politics both local and in the royal court, it is also the man who is the face of the house, he who holds the purse strings and all that rot." Thought I'd leave a note here so one of you experts can take a look and see what should stay and be cleaned up, and what should go.  Helenabella (Talk)  06:06, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Cheers Helenabella - I've made some changes. Hchc2009 (talk) 08:24, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Geoffrey (archbishop of York) nomination for Today's Featured Article[edit]

I've nominated the article Geoffrey (archbishop of York) to be considered for Today's Featured Article, nomination discussion is at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Geoffrey (archbishop of York). — Cirt (talk) 01:43, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Peer review: Bolokhoveni[edit]

The article is about a medieval ethnic group dwelling in present-day Ukraine or Moldova. All comments here would be appreciated. Borsoka (talk) 05:51, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

750th anniversary of De Montfort's Parliament[edit]

20th January 2015 is the 750th anniversary of the first English Parliament.[2]. However the article De Montfort's Parliament is not eligible for Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/January 20 because it's tagged with refimprove. Does anyone have the references at hand and knowledge to clean this up?

The BBC [3] are planning a "Democracy Day" of live events, discussions and debate, produced in partnership with the Speaker’s Office of the House of Commons, including broadcasts from inside Westminster. Whizz40 (talk) 23:43, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

I've taken a quick stab at it for you. Hchc2009 (talk) 11:17, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, looks much improved. Whizz40 (talk) 20:48, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Depictions of the Black Death[edit]

Hello everyone,

I'm looking for some help making sure that this image is used correctly across various Wikipedias. An academic article in The Medieval Globe has pointed out that the image has often been used to illustrate the Bubonic Plague (the Black Death), but that in fact it represents leprosy.

As things currently stand, User:Rmhermen has very helpfully removed the image from the English Wikipedia, and a few other languages. However, even excluding use in user boxes (en.wp) and as decoration in categories (fr.wp), the file has pretty wide usage in other languages. Is there anyone who would be able to help with one of the languages where the image is still used? Replacing the image is simple enough, but explaining why if someone objects (or leaving a short explanation on the relevant talk pages) would make the changes more likely to stick.

Because it helps to have an alternative image to make sure the Omne Bonum illustration isn't reintroducing by a well-meaning editor, here is one. I've been in touch with one of the authors of the paper and depictions of the Black Death online aren't easy to come by.

The article explaining the misinterpretations is available as an open access PDF here. Page 312 is particularly worth a read. The great thing about the article being open access is that we can see it and act on it quickly. Because Wikipedia is the first port of call for many people, it's important we do our best for our readers. Any help replacing this image would be very much appreciated. Nev1 (talk) 00:19, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Peer review: Hungarian prehistory[edit]

All comments here would be appreciated. Thank you, Borsoka (talk) 12:53, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

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Harej (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Peer review: Glad (duke)[edit]

All comments would be appreciated here. Borsoka (talk) 03:31, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Peer review: Foundation of Moldavia[edit]

All comments are welcome here. Thank you in advance. Borsoka (talk) 03:10, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Ladislaus I of Hungary: peer review[edit]

All comments and suggestions are welcome here. Thank you for your time in advance. Borsoka (talk) 03:51, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Expertise needed: A. R. Bridbury historical economist[edit]

A new article has been created about a scholar of the period. Its current form is a glorified obituary and it appears the subject was an "unorthodox" but the assessment is based on such intricacies "geld" for "hidage" and so some topic area experts who can parse these details are invited to bring the article to more encyclopedic form. Thanks!-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 11:58, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Should be able to take a look at it later on, Hchc2009 (talk) 12:03, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
Yep, had a look through. Not entirely balanced at the moment - will take a stab at improving in a bit. Hchc2009 (talk) 18:16, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Move discussion[edit]

Hello! There is a move discussion on Harun ar-Rashid, which potentially impacts the transliteration of a host of other Arab names. Interested project members are invited to participate. Constantine 16:07, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Harun ar-Rashid listed at Requested moves[edit]

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Abu Talib ibn Abdul-Muttalib listed at Requested moves[edit]

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Hamlet (legend) listed at Requested moves[edit]

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Order of the Ship and the Mussel[edit]

Smells fishy. (Get it?) The only sources cited are very old. The only sources I could find are very old. I have never heard of it before. Does anybody know anything about this? Srnec (talk) 00:39, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

The sources, old or not, check out. It was a very minor non-event. The articles is translated from Dutch. You should say something on the talk page. Johnbod (talk) 12:38, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Peer review: Kingdom of Hungary (1000-1301)[edit]

All comments, suggestions are welcome here. Thank you for your time. Borsoka (talk) 02:28, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Decline of the Roman Empire listed at Requested moves[edit]

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Khosrau II listed at Requested moves[edit]

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Coat of arms of George Washington[edit]

The naming of the article Coat of arms of George Washington is under discussion, see talk:Coat of arms of George Washington As this coat of arms originates in the Middle Ages, you may be interested. -- 67.70.32.20 (talk) 04:59, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

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NPOV Dispute about Great Moravia[edit]

There is a dispute regarding whether some minority views at Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard#Great_Moravia. Dr Crazy 102 (talk) 00:21, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Aelfric problems[edit]

There's mismatches/issues with Ælfric of Crediton, Malmesbury Abbey, and Alfred of Malmesbury.

Alfred of Malmesbury uses an obsolete source -- see Aelfric of Eynsham. If the same Aelfric was indeed both Abbot of Malmesbury (see http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/wilts/vol3/pp210-231) and Bishop of Crediton circa 977-9 then the dates fit. Malmesbury Abbey lists both Alfred of Malmesbury, as well as Aelfric of Eynsham per an 1870 text.

I believe the following should occur:

  1. Aelfric of Crediton should be updated to indicate that:
    1. he was Abbot of Malmesbury Abbey
    2. that he was also known as Alfred
    3. that he was misidentified as Aelfric of Eynsham by William of Malmesbury
  2. Malmesbury Abbey should replace both Alfred and Aelfric of Eynsham with Aelfric of Crediton
  3. Alfred of Malmesbury should be converted to a redirect to Aelfric of Crediton

Problems:

- Hydronium Hydroxide (talk) 10:56, 3 September 2015 (UTC)