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Philadelphia Sports Hall of Fame navigational boxes nominated for deletion[edit]

I have nominated the 13 Philadelphia Sports Hall of Fame navigational boxes for deletion. Please see the discussion here. Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 16:41, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Recruit boxes in bios[edit]

When I started including recruit boxes in bios many other editors started doing so as well. Now, I see a trend of people removing these boxes from articles. E.g., here Bagumba at D'Angelo Russell. More recently, this edit by an IP, it was removed from Glenn Robinson III, which is a page I watch. I personally find the boxes to be a good summary high school content such as how highly he was regarded. Does the project have a policy on this type of content.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:46, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

I think they are fine for college season articles, but find them bulky for bios and redundant to some info already in the infobox. Moreover, they are also often unsourced, or using malformed urls. I usually find a sentence or two of prose with relevant rankings is more elegant for bios.—Bagumba (talk) 00:35, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
Bagumba, For most players who were highly recruited, one or two sentences will not summarize their high school rankings. You might be able to describe "Scout:5/5 stars Rivals:5/5 stars 247Sports:5/5 stars ESPN:5/5 stars" as "a 5-star shooting guard", but what one sentence summarizes "Overall recruiting rankings: Scout: 13, 2 (SG) Rivals: 18 247Sports: 16, 1 (KY) , 5 (SG) ESPN: 13, 1 (KY), 1 (SG)"?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:37, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
Furthermore, they are no better sourced in college team season articles than in bios. Also they are no more bulky than statistics tables which are equally wide.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:05, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
Bagumba, Can you please respond.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:19, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
My main contention with the table in bios is that they are bulky. One header row for only one row of data for the bio subject, as opposed to potentially multiple players for a team article, seems awkward. Height, weight, position, and hometown are somewhat redundant to the infobox already in a bio. Per state rankings are overly detailed. I think something like at T. J. Leaf, "A consensus five-star and overall top-20 recruit ...", would be ideal for most readers. It can be fine-tuned more, but a table with all its present minutiae seems undue for a bio (and perhaps even a team article, but let's focus on bios). Thanks.—Bagumba (talk) 00:37, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
The height and weight in high school are not that redundant with height and weight as a pro. Many people grow a lot after high school, especially weight-wise. The reason the rankings parameters exist is that the content is of encyclopedic interest to the readers. Removing the detail is similar to removing stats tables that can be summarized in prose. We could say so-and-so is a 5000-point scorer and 3000-rebound guy and eliminate stats tables, too.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:04, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
Some stats are more important than others, so it's not an all-or-nothing proposition. Let's see what others think.—Bagumba (talk) 02:20, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Please take part in a consensus discussion on Olympic roster templates[edit]

The discussion can be found at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Basketball#"Current team" listed on Olympic rosters. Thanks. Rikster2 (talk) 12:36, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Cliff Alexander free agent?[edit]

Most NBA teams bring 18 player into training camp. I see Portland has 17 on their roster at NBA.com. I see no news that Alexander has been released. The last news was he was cut to make cap space and then added to the summer league roster. Help welcome.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:03, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

If the last action was to be waived and there has been no announcement since that he has re-signed for at least training camp then he is a free agent. A summer league deal is not a full contract. Rikster2 (talk) 19:42, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Discussion on Naismith HOF navboxes[edit]

There is a discussion underway at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Basketball#Naismith HOF templates about the need for 2 navboxes associated with this honor. Please take part. Rikster2 (talk) 10:10, 19 August 2016 (UTC)