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WikiProject New York theater[edit]

A long inactive WikiProject, WikiProject New York theater, has been moved into a subpage of WikiProject New York City following a requested move here. The page is now located WP:WikiProject New York City/Theatre here, and it was assumed in the disscussion that this will become of interest to this WikiProject. Kharkiv07 (T) 02:34, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

RfC: Nikola Tesla[edit]

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Opinions requested[edit]

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Resolved. BMK (talk) 02:17, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

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Mattress Performance[edit]

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City names in infoboxes[edit]

I feel like this must have been discussed before... As many of you know mailing addresses in New York City may go by the borough (123 Main St, Brooklyn, NY) as the boroughs share street addresses. This seems to counteract the established standard of "City, State, Country" in infoboxes. An easy way out is to just put "Borough, New York City, New York, US" but that could be too long aesthetically. So is "Borough, New York, US" acceptable provided there is ambiguity as to what borough the subject resides in? MusikAnimal talk 18:01, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

The USPS's addressing policies are not consistent throughout the city. All mailing addresses in Manhattan are "New York, New York", and in Brooklyn it's "Brooklyn, New York", while in Queens each separate post office is used, as in "Astoria, New York" or "Flushing, New York". (I can't speak with any certainty about the Bronx and Staten Island). Since New York City (and, BTW, that's its official name, "New York City" or "the City of New York") is one of a handful of "world cities" which should be recognizable to people all over the globe, I avoid using "New York, New York" and "Brooklyn, New York" with preference for "Manhattan, New York City" and "Brooklyn, New York City", or, if the neighborhood is known and uncontentious "Tribeca, Manhattan, New York City", for instance, or "Carroll Gardens, Brooklyn, New York City". (The "location" parameters in an infobox should give the reader the actual physical location, and not simply a generalized mailing address. I agree that tacking on the state and country makes for quite a long string, and, with the "world city" rationale in mind, I usually don't bother with them at all as being unnecessary. BMK (talk) 20:31, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
Why not just go with the USPS official names? That seems like the most straightforward solution to me. Epic Genius (talk) 01:15, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
It may be a "straightforward solution", but it's one which is not always going to provide the correct answer - unfortunaely, life is messier than that. USPS names are the names of post offices, not necessarily the names of the cities they're in. They were designed for the delivery of mail, not necessarily as identifiers of the locale, and have been superseded by ZIP codes. Many places exist that are in one village or town or city and yet have their mail handled by a post office in another place because it's closer to the address. To take an example you're familiar with, mail to addresses in Marble Hill will be delivered correctly whether they're addressed to "Marble Hill, New York" or "Marble Hill, Bronx", as long as the ZIP code is correct. BMK (talk) 04:24, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
I just noticed that there are some places, like "Red Hook, New York", where using just "New York" can be ambiguous (it can refer to Red Hook, Brooklyn; Red Hook (village), New York; or the town of Red Hook, New York), so I understand that that's why the correct ZIP code is needed. In that case, we can do "Manhattan, New York" for Manhattan; "Brooklyn, New York" for Brooklyn; and "Queens, New York" for Queens, in order to keep consistent with other places outside of NYC – like Albany, New York, or Buffalo, New York – since apparently only the ZIP code has to be correct. People from out of NYC will be more familiar with the higher-level administrative divisions (boroughs) of Manhattan, Brooklyn, and Queens, than they will be with lower-level divisions (neighborhoods) of Astoria or Flushing. Epic Genius (talk) 15:53, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
Except that the city name is not "New York" (which in any case is ambiguous) but "New York City". "New York, New York" is a postal address only. BMK (talk) 18:08, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
I actually meant "New York" as a state name, not a city name. For example, "Manhattan, New York" as opposed to "Manhattan, Kansas" or "Manhattan, Illinois". Epic Genius (talk) 20:23, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
I thnk it's much more important to indicate that the place is in New York City then that it's in New York state. As I said, there are a handful of cities -- Paris and London, for instance -- which have this status. They are exceptions to the usual City, State, Country formulation. BMK (talk) 20:29, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
I think that if you include a link to Manhattan, or to Brooklyn, Queens, the Bronx, or Staten Island for that matter, the reader will realize that these are in NYC. Besides, the names of the 5 boroughs are known around the world, and most English speakers know that Manhattan or Brooklyn is in New York City. If not, then "New York City" can be appended.
However, even though either "Manhattan, New York City" or "Manhattan, New York" can be used, "Manhattan, United States" cannot. Epic Genius (talk) 20:33, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────@Beyond My Ken and Epicgenius: Thanks for the input, guys! I'm late to get back to you, I'm realizing how bad I am at this watchlist thing. Anyway, this question arose from a dispute at Brooklyn Nets. Here, there's no question the team belongs to the borough of Brooklyn, and at least one author (surely others) have opted with "New York City, New York" as opposed to "Brooklyn, New York" or "Brooklyn, New York City, New York" – and here the US ismplied by the affiliation with the NBA (though NBA also has teams in Canada!). So I guess to bring this discussion a step further: Should using the borough name as the city be limited to cases where it as ambiguous? For instance, at the time of writing, Flushing Meadows–Corona Park is listed as located in "Queens, NY, United States"; then we have Grand Army Plaza listed as "Brooklyn, New York City" and a different field listing the state of "New York", and Medgar Evers College as "New York City (Crown Heights, Brooklyn), New York, United States"; Meanwhile we have Central Park listed as "Manhatan in New York City, United States". I guess the question is, should we bother with any sort of consistency? Or perhaps it varies based on subject and not the scope of New York City, such as parks versus sports teams and colleges? MusikAnimal talk 02:10, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

@MusikAnimal: The infobox in the "Medgar Evers College" article was an experimental addition of the neighborhood and borough, besides just "New York City, New York, United States". Most infoboxes about NYC subjects are like those in the "Grand Army Plaza" and "Central Park" articles, which indicate "New York City" as an administrative division behind "United States". Epic Genius (talk) 02:16, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
Epicgenius: I do not think your generalization about "most infoboxes" is correct, either numerically or stylistically. MusikAnimal: "Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds." (Emerson) I'd go with Brooklyn, New York City. As a world city, New York state and United States are both implied. BMK (talk) 03:41, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
Actually, the format with NYC linked in the infoboxes is the most common. Indeed, my generalization is correct numerically, unless you can pull up evidence that another format prevails. Epic Genius (talk) 15:04, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
Minor point, three of the mainland Queens GPOs or Section Centers, 111 Long Island City, 113 Flushing, and 114 Jamaica, are former Townships, though Newtown's name has been replaced by LIC. 116 Rockaway is a former panhandle of Town of Hempstead. So, once upon a time, Post Office boundaries followed municipal ones. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jim.henderson (talkcontribs)
Cool. So that's probably why any zip code numbered 111xx is often labeled as "Long Island City, New York" whether it's in Astoria, Sunnyside, or somewhere else. Never realized that. Epic Genius (talk) 23:41, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
Always more to learn. I picked up much NY geography, working as a provisional Distribution Clerk in Brooklyn GPO during the Christmas rush of 1968. Jim.henderson (talk) 11:52, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Yeah... always good to keep picking knowledge, isn't it? ;-) Epic Genius (talk) 02:28, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

RfC - Mattress Performance (Carry That Weight)[edit]

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Help with MetLife[edit]

Hi, New Yorkers! I've been working on behalf of MetLife to suggest improvements to their article, and I'm looking for interested editors to join the discussion. A few weeks ago, I proposed some changes to the article's History section, but thus far I haven't received any feedback. Since the article is of interest to this WikiProject, as MetLife originated in New York and is headquartered there, I'm hoping editors here might be willing to take a look. Because of my COI, I will not be making any edits myself and I'm looking for editors to review my work. If you're able to help, I welcome any input. Thanks, 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 21:51, 8 July 2015 (UTC)