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More opinions needed at Requested move Nineteen Eighty-Four → 1984[edit]

It would be really helpful to get more opinions here. Thanks! PermStrump(talk)

request for article review: The Coffee Trader[edit]

I've been working on fixing up the article for The Coffee Trader, previously rated as Stub-class. I'd be grateful if someone would review the rating and see if it can be upgraded now, and/or make any suggestions for further improvement. Thanks! Kenirwin/(talk) 13:32, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

 Done and very nice work Kenirwin, sorry you've had to wait so long for a response! It looks great to me--worth considering taking to GA? Since you've clearly delved well into the available sources! If there's any area I might be curious to read more about, it might be the publication history and the background on the author's development of the book (along the lines of what's mentioned in the last sentence of the entry)--but you know better than I whether that info is available! I checked our entry for the author in case there might be leads but there wasn't much there, unfortunately. In any case, already great work and IMO worth submitting to GA as is! A fine contribution! Innisfree987 (talk) 02:49, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Featured quality source review RFC[edit]

Editors in this WikiProject may be interested in the featured quality source review RFC that has been ongoing. It would change the featured article candidate process (FAC) so that source reviews would need to occur prior to any other reviews for FAC. Your comments are appreciated. --IznoRepeat (talk) 21:35, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Merger of individual articles of books in The Edge Chronicles series[edit]

I have suggested that the individual book articles of the series be merged into The Edge Chronicles. Please discuss the merger at Talk:The_Edge_Chronicles#Merger_of_individual_articles_of_books_in_this_series --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 20:10, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Pachinko[edit]

Hi friends,
Might any Pachinko fans be available to help trim a plot section that's gotten a bit unwieldy? I'd do it myself but I'm afraid this NBA finalist is still in my to-read stack! Innisfree987 (talk) 23:08, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Children's Lit Wiki Project[edit]

Hi. I am currently working on reestablishing the Children's Lit Wiki Project and figured some members of this project might be interested in joining our efforts over there. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 00:17, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Page move request[edit]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Mary Poppins (musical) that would benefit by your input. Please come and help! Paine Ellsworth, ed.  put'r there  16:23, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

where is the list of reliable source for novels at?[edit]

Is there a list somewhere of what websites count as reliable sources for book reviews? Other wikiprojects have that and a custom Google search to make finding things easier. Dream Focus 19:07, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

That would be handy. I know of no such list. I look for newspaper reviews, Kirkus Reviews, Publishers Weekly, Library Journal as sources, searching anew for each novel, already published or new. Many newspaper reviews are behind paywalls. --Prairieplant (talk) 03:23, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
I just made one at https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=000940472126197254432:ojqph5ir04q with the three places you mentioned and one more. If you think of any more ones that count as reliable sites, just post their web address please, and I can copy and paste it easily to add to it. Dream Focus 03:49, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
@Dream Focus and Prairieplant: The style guide includes suggestions: Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Novels#Finding_sources. Please continue to expand that there-- its the most visible page documenting how to write about Novels on EnWiki, and is linked on every stub template and WikiProject Novels page. Sadads (talk) 22:02, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
That seems a better place to put it, as nothing shows up for me besides the title Google Custom Search, using the link above. I will make a try at modifying the Finding Sources section of Novels. --Prairieplant (talk) 07:40, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
Sadads and Dream Focus, the suggestions are in Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Novels#Tips for finding criticism about less reviewed or studied works, which has a cynical (and unsourced) view of reviews appearing in newspapers. Whoever wrote the text thinks that publishers pay the named authors of reviews in newspapers, just so much advertising. I disagree, those reviews are so scarce! In 2019, a few newspapers are considering adding more book reviews, having stopped publishing their book review sections in a past year in this bumpy century for newspapers. I personally have a very hard time imagining that the New York Times or Chicago Tribune or Los Angeles Times takes payola to write book reviews, nor can I imagine that all the British newspapers that published reviews of Agatha Christie's mystery novels for about 50 years were doing that for a fee. The section immediately above the one I cited directs an editor to sources best found via a public library or a university library, like JSTOR for journal articles, or for books about the novel that is the subject of your article. Once in a great while I find the abstract of a JSTOR article from a google search. Thanks, Sadads, I did not know about that second section; I think I was daunted when I first found JSTOR as top of the list for sources in the first section. I have not mastered signing up for access through Wikipedia as yet. --Prairieplant (talk) 08:04, 15 January 2019 (UTC)