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Exchange rate[edit]

Hello, I need the exchange rate of 1 Piece of eight/Spanish peso (1825) to the USD (2015) for an article. I have read that it was 1/1, but that can't possibly be the case, since the average wage was around 25 pesos per year and the richest aristocrat only made 80,000 per year, which I suspect would translate to a few hundred millions in modern dollars. (talk) 03:20, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

I have read other sources stating that 1 pound = 1 peso. And according to this article:
3,000,000 (2008) USD = 15,000 (1710s) P
200 (2008) USD = 1 (1710s) P
Is that true? And was the rate the same in 1825? At the very least it is clear that the actual value was much more than the current price of silver. (talk) 03:40, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Sorry to be so slow. Until 1857, the Spanish colonial real was the usual circulating medium in the U.S. That is what you would spend, and likely get back in change. Most U.S. silver coins were profitably exported, until 1853, and were rarely seen in commerce. Since the U.S. dollar was modeled on the Spanish 8 reals piece (sometimes called a peso, then) there is some truth to what you say. The U.S. dollar probably would have gotten a premium, because it would have been, in practice, heavier as the Spanish coins would almost certainly have been worn, and they would have been concerned about the amount of silver in the coins. A lot of the U.S. coins that were exported circulated in Latin America, actually. But my opinion is that there's no really good shorthand way of translating prices from one era to another so far apart. In 1825, a middle class family might have had several servants, or even slaves, as far north as New York. What we spend money on, how we get it, and its very character (none of us have lived in an era when a bank might refuse to give you a gold coin for an equal face value in silver, assuming both were circulating at the time) have changed so much that I don't think a general answer is possible. You might want to post at one of the economics talk pages for more specialized help--Wehwalt (talk) 12:56, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

A new project with the Yorkshire Museum's numismatics collections[edit]

Hi all, I've just had a fantastic offer from the numismatics curator at the Yorkshire Museum (Andrew Woods - YMT Coins not very active on Wikipedia). You can already see some of the Museum's Numismatics collections in this Commons Category and there's more free-to-use imagery on the Online Collection. However, as the quality of the existing collections imagery varies (as it does on Wikipedia), Andrew is suggesting taking a new run of high-quality photographs specifically for Wikipedia. His idea is to target articles of rulers (Kings, Queens, Emperors) that currently lack a decent coin portrait. The Museum's collection covers Roman and British Isles currencies very well. Are there existing lists of such articles or would one of you like to create one? Ideally, this might be the first step in creating a lasting partnership. @BabelStone: you created great content for Middleham Hoard - perhaps you'd like to have first refusal on this? What do people think generally? Cheers, PatHadley (talk) 10:31, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi Pat, sounds like a fantastic offer, and targeting royal portraits does sound like an interesting approach, with scope for some new list articles as well as being of use in existing articles. I don't have the time to engage in a partnership with the museum, but would certainly be willing to help out where I can, both here and on Commons. BabelStone (talk) 12:04, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi BabelStone, no problem! Glad you like the idea. Thanks for offering your time - much appreciated! You might also be interested to note that the images in the Archaeology collections of York Museums Trust have grown in number and quality recently. Cheers, PatHadley (talk) 12:14, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
In the Middle Ages period, editors such as Ealdgyth, who have worked so extensively and well in that field, may have an interest. Thanks for the generous offer. I could, by the way, use images of a pre-1888 Maundy money twopence (dated between 1821 and 1887), and I see the museum has some in its collection. This would be for the article Royal Maundy, which would likely fit your category. Would it be possible to have images of the one in best condition?--Wehwalt (talk) 12:48, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Breezing through the Roman emperors we have a coin portrait on every one up to Maximinus II who doesn't have one. We are also missing Constans and Theodosius I. That's it up till 395 at least. Chuy1530 (talk) 20:35, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Gold Solidus of Valentinian II
Gold Solidus of Valentinian II - obverse YORYM 1998 853.jpgGold Solidus of Valentinian II - reverse YORYM 1998 853.jpg
Obverse Reverse
The standard we'd hope to hit - 2.95MB images with detailed metadata
Excellent! Just looking through those three, they each have a 'Coins of xxx' category on Commons (Maximinus II, Constans, Theodosius I). However, the quality of these is not that high. There are lots of images through the glass of museum cabinets and some decent but small (sub 50KB) images from the Classical Numismatics Group. The example to the right shows the standard we'd hope to hit with YMT's images (click through for the metadata). I'm guessing that images of that quality would be useful on more than just the 3 emperors listed above? PatHadley (talk) 09:35, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Question, pre-2003 notes[edit]

I've just asked about this on the Series (United States currency) talk page. Repeating it here, in hopes someone can answer:

"I keep seeing mention of bills dated before 2003 not being accepted outside the USA. I've not found anything official on this. If anyone knows more, please add that information to this article! Thanks,"

Hordaland (talk) 18:12, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Castine Hoard[edit]

I just recently made an article regarding the famous American Castine Hoard. If anyone has any books on the matter feel free to contribute. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:30, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Archived old threads[edit]

I've archived some old threads.

Specifically those that were more than one (1) year old.

And those that were about discussions that had since closed, for example notices for people to come to featured-content-discussions where the page was already later promoted/archived, etc.

Cirt (talk) 21:58, 12 October 2015 (UTC)