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New article feedback[edit]

As part of a class assignment, I am planning on writing a new article on Worker's Rights in U.S. Meat and Poultry Plants. It will be listed as a part of this WikiProject. To make sure the proposed article is focused, its scope will be limited to conditions and implications of American meat and poultry production plants during the 20th and 21st centuries. As of now, I intend on writing a section on the characteristics of American meat production plants, with a subsection on the demographics of workers in the industry, which includes content on the non-immigrant, legal immigrant, and illegal immigrant workers. The second section of the article will cover the implications and consequences for workers, with subsections on mental and emotional and physical effects. The fourth section will examine policy and legislation related to workers' rights in slaughterhouses and poultry plants as well as looking at international and domestic employment protections. Last, to ensure all perspectives are represented, the article will include a section on industry response.

I have already identified a number of scholarly articles and books as sources for this proposed article. To name a few, the revised edition of An Unfair Advantage: Workers' Freedom of Association in the United States under International Human Rights Standards by Lance Compra, and Slaughterhouse Blues: The Meat and Poultry Industry in North America (2nd edition) by Donald Stull and Michael Broadway should be useful monographs. I intend on complementing these books with articles from the USDA Agricultural Economics Reports, the International Archives of Occupational and Environmental Health, the Georgetown Journal on Poverty Law & Policy, the Journal of Politics and Society, and the Population and Development Review.

I would really appreciate any feedback on the proposed content or any issues you might foresee, as well as any suggestions for other scholarly sources. Thank you so much Kvanschilfgaarde (talk) 04:58, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Article requests[edit]

I was wondering if anyone would be willing to take on the task of writing up an article about Larry Itliong? Like Vera Cruz, he is often overlooked in labor history. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 00:46, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I have been fixing/expanding on United Voice and the FMWU and I think that there needs to be a Ray Gietzelt page created. He died recently and was (apparently) a major figure of the trade union movement for over 20 years. Anyone want to write an article about him? AlexinaDuel (talk) 05:02, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Need new article on strike on Florida East Coast Railway, which began in 1963[edit]

There was a strike on the Florida East Coast Railway that began in 1963. It's important in history. I really don't know much about the strike, besides its duration, bitterness, violence, and effect on US-wide work rules in a major industry (railroads). Therefore, I can't comment on the accuracy of the existing article on the FEC. But I can say that the level of detail that's in the current article is probably about right for a general article on the FEC.

I would like Wikipedia to have a new article specifically on the strike: what happened, why, and consequences.

I think the article should use Seth Bramson's book, Speedway to Sunshine, even though I haven't read it, because it is reputed to be the standard reference on the FEC. Similarly, I would expect the article to use historians who have published in the Florida Historical Quarterly. But I'm not sure such sources will have sufficient sympathy for the workers who went on strike. So, for completeness and NPOV, I encourage authors to search out such sources, in addition to sources that are sympathetic to FEC management.

I'm not expert enough on Wikipedia to know the best way to invite such an article to be written, but I'm cross-posting this to the Talk pages of WikiProject_Florida and here (with minor edits) - original post is on Talk page of FEC. Oaklandguy (talk) 04:10, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Haymarket affair Good Article reassessment[edit]

Haymarket affair, which is listed as part of this WikiProject, has been nominated for a community reassessment to determine if it meets the good article criteria and so can be listed as a good article. Please add comments to the article reassessment page. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 19:48, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

  • Just a side note: This was undoubtedly an outcome of the attack on the article's reputation and Wikipedia's editing guidelines by Dr. Timothy Messer-Kruse in a recent issue of the Chronicle of Higher Education. Messer-Kruse, an authority on the subject, took issue with some of the claims in the article. (He believes his research has shown conclusively that the claims made are incorrect. Some of his research conclusions are hotly debated.) There is a very serious debate on this article's talk page about various claims by scholars. Some of the works cited are older; some of the scholars cited are dead and cannot defend themselves. My sense of things is that historians themselves have reached no consensus on the issues, and Wikipedia is going to have to reflect that. (I have no opinion on the quality of the article, as I have barely scanned it in the past six months.) - Tim1965 (talk) 20:44, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Changes to Template:Labor[edit]

A single individual is making changes to Template:Labor. While I, personally, don't have an opinion yet about the changes, unilateral changes are probably not a good idea. In part, this individual is making style changes to the template based on the individual's own personal color choices, and not a WikiProject consensus nor a historical use of the crimson red color. What do others think about the template changes? I refuse to get into an edit war about the changes. - Tim1965 (talk) 13:04, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

anti-union sock puppet is back[edit] is a sock puppet who is a top level lawyer from The Burke Group.

He has previously used the ID jbowersox, and numerous other sockpuppet accounts. He has been repeatedly banned, but is obviously back. I have initiated an investigation by admin. Richard Myers (talk) 19:05, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

The anti-union (The Burke Group related) sock puppetry has been confirmed, once again -- here: [1]. The case is currently awaiting administrative action. Richard Myers (talk) 23:13, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Ongoing Asturian miners' strike[edit]

I'm writing a first draft of an article to cover the ongoing dispute in Asturias, but I'd like make 100% sure that there isn't already an article first. I can't find one, and so far no one's responded to my query at the Spain Wikiproject, but I find it a little hard to believe that no one's written one yet. Any thoughts? – Arms & Hearts (talk) 20:37, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

No one responded to either thread, so I went ahead and created 2012 Asturian miners' strike. Input appreciated. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 01:28, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

'Progressive Mine Workers of America' article title[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Progressive Miners of America#Why the name change?. -- Trevj (talk) 07:44, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Invitation to Oct. 27 Editathon, Teamsters Labor History Research Center[edit]

You're invited to participate, remotely or in person, in the International Brotherhood of Teamsters Labor History Research Center Editathon, Oct. 27, at George Washington University. Join us online the day of the event, or sign up and meet your fellow labor article editors in person! Djembayz (talk) 23:31, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Requesting someone to write more about SAG-AFTRA.[edit]

This article, SAG-AFTRA, really needs to be expanded. Please help out if you can. RGloucester (talk) 23:24, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Hart Schaffner & Marx?[edit]

Now known as Hartmarx, apparently there was a major labor arbitration agreement established here in 1912. I was reading about it in Wigmore § 4g (3d ed. 1940), and noted there wasn't anything about the labor relations history of this company in the article. I dropped a note on the talk page, but thought I'd leave a message here as well. I'm really not familiar enough with the subject matter to do anything myself. —/Mendaliv//Δ's/ 08:00, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

  • A shot in the dark: I'm guessing that the union involved was the Cloakmakers, but there's so little known about them. - Tim1965 (talk) 17:52, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
See here. The union was the United Garment Workers. Apparently Clarence Darrow was involved too. Interesting. —/Mendaliv//Δ's/ 19:08, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism to Union security agreement[edit]

An unregistered user associated with the hotel industry keeps trying to delete a single section of the article Union security agreement. This individual's bias is clear (to my mind; they don't want union security agreements to have an economic justification). This user keeps changing their justification for deleting this section, and does not delete anything else in the article (even though their justification for deleting the "Rationale" section would apply elsewhere). I cannot engage in an edit war with this individual. I have tried to engage the individual on the article Talk page to no avail. Since I helped expand this article, I cannot continue to banter with this person. It might be useful is someone else brought a new perspective to the discussion on the article Talk page, and (if appropriate) reported the user as a vandal. As a major contributor to the article, I cannot do that without being accused of bias myself. - Tim1965 (talk) 03:40, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Battle of Blair Mountain[edit]

I'm offering a bounty (payable as a donation to the Wikimedia Foundation) for improvements to the Battle of Blair Mountain. £15 for bringing it up to B-class, another £40 to get it to Good Article status, and another £100 to get it to Featured Article. --OpenToppedBus - Talk to the driver 16:29, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Labour vs. labor in the template[edit]

So, there's a debate about consistency of usage in the Organized Labour template. The existing template uses both British and American spellings. But there is an argument being made that it should only be "labor". Thoughts? It will be switched (and not by me) to "labor" if there is no discussion. - Tim1965 (talk) 15:15, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Intention to edit "Circular Migration"[edit]

The current Circular Migration article is in need of improvement in several areas. Although it exists, it is referenced poorly, lacks details and links to other pages, has some citation errors, and omits crucial aspects of the issues. Upon first glance, the most striking thing is the pure lack of substantive and relevant information. The page has no table of contents and has only two sparse sections.The first sentence of the article lists many issues related to the topic of circular migration, but does not go into detail about any of them. Of the material that is present, most of it focuses solely on the United States. While circular migration involving the United States as a destination country is important, there are many other crucial areas of the issue that should be explored. The given example of Puerto Rico is interesting, but I believe that the example of Israel should be omitted. Many international examples provide a greater context and more in-depth understanding of the topic, including circular migration both between countries and within a country between urban and rural areas. Furthermore, the current article presents little information on other facets of circular migration, such as healthcare, women, global policy, and international development. I would like to provide an overview of the issue and its statistics, do an in-depth analysis of both the costs and benefits of circular migration, and include information on the aforementioned facets of the topic. I intend to edit this article, using sources from the International Labor Review, International Migration, scholars such as Connelly, Gidwani, Newland, and reports by the International Organization for Migration. I would greatly appreciate any suggestions that you all may have, in terms of content, organization, or additional sources! I hope to make this article as strong as possible.Twoods158 (talk) 22:42, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

1st National Convention, Denver, Colorado, July 1937.jpg[edit]

have been nominated for deletion -- (talk) 05:21, 16 June 2013 (UTC)


file:Sidhatfield.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- (talk) 03:26, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Sir Sidney William George Ford MBE.jpg[edit]

file:Sir Sidney William George Ford MBE.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- (talk) 03:33, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Yup, it's going to be deleted. Too bad that there wasn't an OTRS record from the family giving permission for it to be used on WP or on Commons. - Tim1965 (talk) 16:17, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

New Article: Migrant Workers in China[edit]

I'm a student at Rice University, and I'm planning on writing a new article on Migrant Workers in China for a course: Education Program:Rice University/Poverty, Justice, Human Capabilities, Section 2 (Fall 2013)
I hope to provide an overview, go over the history and origins, cover major factors, and discuss the different impacts of the phenomenon. If you have any comments, suggestions, or revisions, please let me know!

1. Overview
2. History and Origins
3. Factors

a. Economic
b. Social
c. Political
i. Hukou
ii. Other

4. Impact

a. Labor Supply
i. Domestic Work
ii. Factory Work
iii. Sex Work
b. Social
i. Gender Roles
ii. Class
iii. Health
iv. Education
v. Inequality

5. Theories for the Future
6. See Also
7. References
8. Further Reading

References: Chan, Chris King-Chi, and Pun Ngai. “The Making of a New Working Class? A Study of Collective Actions of Migrant Workers in South China.” The China Quarterly 198 (June 22, 2009): 287. doi:10.1017/S0305741009000319.
Chan, Jenny, and Ngai Pun. “Suicide as Protest for the New Generation of Chinese Migrant Workers: Foxconn, Global Capital, and the State.” The Asia-Pacific Journal 8, no. 37 (2010): 2–10.
Chan, Kam Wing, and Li Zhang. “The Hukou System and Rural-Urban Migration in China: Processes and Changes.” The China Quarterly 160 (1999): 818–855. doi:10.1017/S0305741000001351.
Connelly, Rachel, Kenneth Roberts, and Zhenzhen Zheng. “The Impact of Circular Migration on the Position of Married Women in Rural China.” Feminist Economics 16, no. 1 (2010): 3–41. doi:10.1080/13545700903382752.
Démurger, Sylvie, Marc Gurgand, Shi Li, and Ximing Yue. “Migrants as Second-class Workers in Urban China? A Decomposition Analysis.” Journal of Comparative Economics 37, no. 4 (December 2009): 610–628. doi:10.1016/j.jce.2009.04.008.
Fan, C. Cindy. China on the Move: Migration, the State, and the Household. Routledge, 2008.
Friedman, Eli. “Outside the New China | Jacobin.” Accessed September 26, 2013.
Froissart, Chloé. “Review of ‘China on the Move: Migration, the State and the Household’.” The China Quarterly 196 (January 12, 2009): 937. doi:10.1017/S0305741008001409.
Hesketh, Therese, Ye Xue Jun, Li Lu, and Wang Hong Mei. “Health Status and Access to Health Care of Migrant Workers in China.” Public Health Reports 123, no. 2 (2008): 189.
Ichimura, Shinichi. Decentralization Policies in Asian Development. World Scientific, 2008.
Keung Wong, Daniel Fu, Chang Ying Li, and He Xue Song. “Rural Migrant Workers in Urban China: Living a Marginalised Life: Rural Migrant Workers in Urban China.” International Journal of Social Welfare 16, no. 1 (January 2007): 32–40. doi:10.1111/j.1468-2397.2007.00475.x.
Knight, John, Lina Song, and Jia Huaibin. “Chinese Rural Migrants in Urban Enterprises: Three Perspectives.” Journal of Development Studies 35, no. 3 (February 1999): 73–104. doi:10.1080/00220389908422574.
Knight, John, and Linda Yueh. “Job Mobility of Residents and Migrants in Urban China.” Journal of Comparative Economics 32, no. 4 (December 2004): 637–660. doi:10.1016/j.jce.2004.07.004.
Lee, Ching Kwan. “Review of Yan Hairong ‘New Masters, New Servants: Migration, Development and Women Workers in China’.” The China Quarterly 200 (December 16, 2009): 1099. doi:10.1017/S0305741009990713.
Wang, Feng, and Xuejin Zuo. “Inside China’s Cities: Institutional Barriers and Opportunities for Urban Migrants,” n.d.
Wing Chan, Kam, and Will Buckingham. “Is China Abolishing the Hukou System?” The China Quarterly 195 (2008): 582–606. doi:10.1017/S0305741008000787.
Zhao, Yaohui. “Labor Migration and Earnings Differences: The Case of Rural China.” Economic Development and Cultural Change 47, no. 4 (July 1999): 767–782. doi:10.1086/452431.
———. “The Role of Migrant Networks in Labor Migration: The Case of China,” n.d.
Zheng, Tiantian. Red Lights. Minneapolis: University of Minnesota Press, 2009.
Zhi, Huayong, Zhurong Huang, Jikun Huang, Scott D. Rozelle, and Andrew D. Mason. “Impact of the Global Financial Crisis in Rural China: Gender, Off-farm Employment, and Wages.” Feminist Economics 19, no. 3 (2013): 238–266. doi:10.1080/13545701.2013.809137. GavinCross (talk) 20:17, 7 October 2013 (UTC)


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Justin Potter[edit]

Hello. I am working on Justin Potter's page. He owned hundreds of coal mines in Kentucky and sent hired guards to keep union members away from his mines. Would any of you be interested in expanding his page with regards to his relationship with unions, as long as you are able to find the right references/citations?Zigzig20s (talk) 11:01, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

AfC submission - 05/03[edit]

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Women in the U.S. Labor Force after World War II through 1950. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 00:59, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Pyramid of Capitalist System[edit]

Feel free to copyedit and expand my new DYK, of interest to this project, I think. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:02, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Trade unions in Costa Rica[edit]

Is this project still active? If so, could somebody please add relevant templates, categories, and so forth on Trade unions in Costa Rica? There is a "Part of a series on Organized labor" menu and an "Organized labour portal" box at the bottom. Mvblair (talk) 21:22, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Leaflet for Wikiproject Organized Labour at Wikimania 2014[edit]

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Please help fix this poor stub. It was almost deleted. Bearian (talk) 14:13, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal[edit]

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Revisions to Child labour in Bangladesh article[edit]

I am planning on editing and restructuring the current Child labour in Bangladesh article. It belongs in the scope of WikiProject Organized Labour but has yet to receive a quality or importance rating. I hope that my edits will bring up both the quality and importance of this article. It is currently lacking in depth of content and scholarly sources. I plan to increase coverage of this topic by adding material through citing reputable resources such as published books and papers, articles from academic journals, and government statistics.

I plan on adding a "Definitions" section and a "Initiatives against Child Labor" section to provide a more comprehensive and holistic coverage of the topic. I also plan on restructuring the existing "Prevalence and Impact" section by splitting it into two sections: "Causes" and "Prevalence and Impact". The causes section will focus on main causes of child labor while the prevalence and impact section will focus on different industries using child labor in Bangladesh.

If anyone has more information on legislation and initiatives concerning child labor regulations in Bangladesh, please feel free to comment. I would also appreciate any and all feedback or suggestions on the best ways to improve this article. I would love references to even more scholarly sources pertaining to the topic. Thank you. Aaie21 (talk) 03:44, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Expert attention[edit]

This is a notice about Category:Organized Labour articles needing expert attention, which might be of interest to your WikiProject. It will take a while before the category is populated. Iceblock (talk) 13:21, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

  • Interesting. Thanks! - Tim1965 (talk) 15:33, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

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Lists of strikes by country[edit]

Hello. I have started the List of strikes in Spain. I still have to add more strikes in the past years. It would be nice to have a list per country, this info is missing in Wikipedia. emijrp (talk) 10:48, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

  • Have you seen the article List of strikes? It contains a large number of strikes, although the best-documented ones tend to be in the U.S. and Western Europe. - Tim1965 (talk) 16:42, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
Yes, I saw it. But I follow the scheme of spliting by country as in other topics. Otherwise the main list will be overloaded. emijrp (talk) 16:51, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
At least it provides a starting point for creating the other country lists. - Tim1965 (talk) 17:47, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Category:AFL–CIO litigation[edit]

Category:AFL–CIO litigation, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion and partial upmerging. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect (talk) 02:09, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/1934 Seattle Longshoremen Strike[edit]

Dear organized labour experts:

The above old AfC draft will soon be deleted unless someone takes an interest in it. Should this topic have a separate article, or should some of it be moved to 1934 West Coast waterfront strike? Some of the references aren't appropriate, but this one and this one could be used.—Anne Delong (talk) 21:45, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

UK miners' strike 1984-1985[edit]

Hello. I was wondering if someone would undertake a new assessment of the article UK miners' strike (1984-1985). This article is still marked as having multiple issues, but I think that these have now been resolved. An assessment in 2009 said that the article seemed biased towards the striking miners and towards Marxist interpretations of the media, particularly on the issue of violence. I think that the article has plenty of information on the violence around the strike now. Epa101 (talk) 17:58, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm going to remove them. I feel that it's unfair to keep those tags on the article based on an assessment from years ago. I'm aware that I might not be seen as a neutral judge, since I am the main contributor to the article in recent times, but you can't say that I didn't try to get someone else involved. Epa101 (talk) 21:46, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Involuntary termination of employment listed at Requested moves[edit]


A requested move discussion has been initiated for Involuntary termination of employment to be moved to Termination of employment. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 22:32, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Americans for Prosperity[edit]

Hi. Another edited added the above group to this project. I'm a member of several projects, which strive to focus their attention on the core articles dealing with those projects. Therefore, if the other editor is correct, do organizations such as Center for American Progress, Slate (magazine), Huffington Post, and the Tea Party Movement need to be included as well? Since all advocate one way or another for Organized Labor? Thanks for any input you can give. Onel5969 (talk) 13:53, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

I would say Americans for Prosperity shouldn't be marked as part of WikiProject Organized Labour. There are thousands of groups which oppose organized labor in the United States, but most do so only as part of a broader ideological objective. Only a handful, such as the National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation, see this as central to their mission. - Tim1965 (talk) 14:44, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the response, and very quickly, Tim1965! That was my thought as well. I'm not a member of this project, but when I page I look over gets categorized, I try to ensure it's correct. Since there was disagreement about this, I decided to get direction from the project itself. Again, thanks. Onel5969 (talk) 15:05, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
I see this as the distinction between the film industry press (like Daily Variety and The Hollywood Reporter) and general newspapers or magazines which carry film news. No one would call The Los Angeles Times a film industry newspaper, even though it covers Hollywood closely. Even Entertainment Weekly would be called a fan magazine, rather than a Hollywood trade publication. I see parallels between this and the direction a contributor tried to take Americans for Prosperity in. I myself think it crossed the line. I can see why they might think it belong to this project, because labor was mentioned in the lead. But it's just not AfP's priority. That could change, but for now (as I see it) it's not. - Tim1965 (talk) 17:52, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

I respectfully nominate Americans for Prosperity for inclusion among the articles of interest of our project. I would please like to hear from other fellow project members on this nomination.

AFP's anti-labor agenda is central and defining, although yes not their exclusive arena. AFP is taking corporate funding and reshaping the organized labor landscape in the US. AFP played a key role in stripping public employee unions of their collective bargaining rights, and in the promulgation right-to-work laws, in upper midwestern, traditionally union, manufacturing-belt states, whereas previously right-to-work laws had been characteristic only of southern US states. The emphasis in the article on AFP's anti-labor activities is entirely proportional to the emphasis in reliable sources, which please see in the copious references.

Our project page notes the need for updating in the area of union busting. The National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation is a useful analogy. While NRWLDF is a 501(c)(3) public foundation, AFP is a 501(c)(4) "social welfare," "public education" not-for-profit. While NRWLDF works in the courts, AFP works in the streets, grass-roots lobbying and supporting political candidates who agree with their agenda with television advertising and canvassing of voters. Related articles which are in-scope for our project include Right-to-work law, 2011 United States public employee protests, and Ohio Senate Bill 5 Voter Referendum, Issue 2.

Sorry I missed the earlier discussion, there was no notice back at article talk. For the record I do not suggest Slate or the Huffington Post or any other articles for inclusion in our project. Thank you very much for your kind consideration of this nomination. Hugh (talk) 05:28, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

  • If there is that kind of evidence, then you're probably right and I guess it should be added to Wikiproject Organized Labour. - Tim1965 (talk) 02:46, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
I agree with Hugh that this would fit within the realm of the project, while this isn't an obvious or natural fit, it seems that if the Pinkertons is part of the project then (albeit to a lesser extent) AFP could fit. Both oppose/d organized labor. Capitalismojo (talk) 19:22, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Greetings fellow OL participants, I am seeking additional concurrence from my fellow project participants on the inclusion of Americans for Prosperity within the scope of our project. I am interested in working on expanding our encyclopedia's coverage of corporate funded, organized anti-union political activity. I believe a compelling case for inclusion has been made, above. Americans for Prosperity is a critically important actor in the reshaping of the organized labor landscape in the United States. Your concurrence will help close an unfortunate WikiProject banner tagging dispute. Thank you in advance for your support. Hugh (talk) 17:09, 2 July 2015 (UTC)