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Working on a school project[edit]

Hey everyone I'm working on a project at Cornell University, in which a team of students takes a wikipedia page to edit. My group is working on the Schuylkill Navy. If anyone has any advice for how to attack this page please reach out to us. Thanks! Andrew, Eddie, and Janice ~~~~

Need any images?[edit]

I live in Philly, I go to Drexel, and I take images of things. My camera does a decent job, and I have access to some nice photomanipulation software to make sure things come out looking good. I don't have a heck of a lot of free time, but enough that I might be able to help out. Let me know if this sounds good to anyone. You can see some sample shots at the Eastern State Penitentiary, or take a look at my contributions over at the commons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thesab (talkcontribs) 01:43, February 16, 2008

Photo request in Lansdale[edit]

9th Street SEPTA station in Lansdale is opening this Sunday, the 15th. Is there anyone in the area who'd be able to get photographs on opening day or thereafter? Thanks, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:32, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

IP editors are erasing neighborhoods[edit]

A bunch of recent IP edits have been made, all working toward removing Center City neighborhoods, including Logan Square and Fitler Square, and adding the regional descriptions Center City East and Center City West.

This seems wrong to me. I'd prefer hearing other people's opinions before reverting much of the changes. (Though I did put Logan Square back.)

Am I the only one who thinks Rittenhouse Square is a neighborhood, and not just a square? TypoBoy (talk) 18:19, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Whoever is making these changes is working pretty hard. They have moved the "Penn Center, Philadelphia" article to "Center City West, Philadelphia". The Rittenhouse Square article now asserts that it's in the "Rit-Fit" neighborhood. Various spellings of "Rit-Fit" now redirect to that former Penn Center article. TypoBoy (talk) 00:05, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
Last year there was a similar effort to redirect Philadelphia streets to neigborhood or SEPTA station articles. I suggest that anyone mentioning a particular address to use brackets so the links are easily followed. I will start looking for changes and reversing them.--DThomsen8 (talk) 00:26, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
I agree with you entirely, TypoBoy. (I thought I'd already posted this comment, but evidently not.) I've lived in Philadelphia for 15 years, and I've never heard such names as "Center City West" -- that expression, to me, would refer to a much larger region extending north and south -- or (ugh!) "Rit-Fit". Semi-protect the pages? --Thnidu (talk) 00:32, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
Logan Square, Philadelphia and Fitler Square did not have much to change. Penn Center, Philadelphia, Rit-Fit and Center City West, Philadelphia are next for me to check.--DThomsen8 (talk) 00:43, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
  • I would agree that the changes being made to the neighborhood names are not appropriate. I live in Philadelphia, and have never heard "Rit-Fit" used; nor does it tend to appear in publications or online references. I did find it on the following webpage, which purports to list nicknames for Philadelphia neighborhoods: Nicknames (It might worth seeing if other names mentioned in the list are also being changed.) I would certainly support "Penn Center": a quick google search indicates that name is commonly and consistently used in books from 1952 to 2014, including publications by the Philadelphia City Planning Commission. "Center city West" seems to get some use on realtor's websites, but I only found one mention in a google book search, in 2012's Explorer's Guide Eastern Pennsylvania by Laura Randall. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 00:45, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for your comment, Mary Mark. See you Tuesday at the GLAM Caffee.--DThomsen8 (talk) 01:10, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

A main object of these IP editors seems to be to invent the neighborhoods of Center City West and Center City East, and have them occupy (in both geography and mind-share) the spaces roughly occupied by Penn Center and Market East, respectively. I have undone most of the changes relating to Penn Center. Market East is still AWOL. TypoBoy (talk) 16:31, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

It looks like Market East was renamed to Center City East: [1] by ProdConn9095 in June 2015. I don't understand why they would want to do this. -- Austin Murphy (talk) 15:07, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
What I find puzzling is that these editors, whoever they are, are doing real work along with their quirky revisionism. For instance, they created a separate template for Center City neighborhoods to replace the big "communities of Philadelphia" template. Come to think of it, that isn't necessarily desirable. But it did require work.
These seem like the actions of a strongly motivated group of editors who know a lot about Wikipedia, if not so much about Philadelphia, and have been given the task of promoting Center City, or some aspect of it.
I intend to include a link to this discussion in the edit summary of any changes I make while cleaning up after these folks. I encourage others to do the same. TypoBoy (talk) 15:40, 11 January 2016 (UTC)


Please see Talk:French_Quarter,_Philadelphia#Phluff. I'll likely nominate this for deletion. It was copied in toto to the Rittenhouse Square article - I removed that nonsense. Does anybody in this project know anything about it (outside of being a PR project)?

Smallbones(smalltalk) 15:18, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Playing fast and loose with neighborhood boundaries[edit]

The lead paragraph of the Fairmount article formerly (and, I think, accurately) said that the neighborhood is in lower North Philadelphia. For some months it has said instead that Fairmount is in "Greater Center City". There are some problems with this:

  • It's inconsistent with the "Municipalities and Communities of Philadelphia" template"
  • Wikipedia does not otherwise recognize the existence of "Greater Center City".
  • There's no such thing as "Greater Center City". It's a region chosen arbitrarily for study by the Center City District, not an actual community.

I argued on the Fairmount talk page that the description of the geography should be changed back. The only response was from the editor who had introduced the change, who thought, unsurprisingly, that it's an improvement.

I continue to believe that geographical descriptions of Philadelphia neighborhoods should be consistent between articles and should correspond to the most common usage outside Wikipedia. I feel like a voice crying in the wilderness. TypoBoy (talk) 15:15, 22 May 2016 (UTC)