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Request for comment on Biographies of living people[edit]

Hello Wikiproject! Currently there is Once upon a time there was a discussion which will decide whether wikipedia will delete 49,000 articles about a living person without references, here:

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies of living people

Since biographies of living people covers so many topics, nearly all wikiproject topics will be effected.

The two opposing positions which have the most support is:

  1. supports the deletion of unreferenced articles about a living person, User:Jehochman
  2. opposes the deletion of unreferenced articles about a living person, except in limited circumstances, User:Collect

Comments are welcome. Keep in mind that by default, editor's comments are hidden. Simply press edit next to the section to add your comment.

Please keep in mind that at this point, it seems that editors support deleting unreferenced article if they are not sourced, so your project may want to pursue the projects below.

What is this doing still here?[edit]

This unsigned comment is nearly seven years old. Why hasn't it been archived? It was originally posted in January 2010 by Ikip, who deleted and reposted it a couple times then and the next day, and it hasn't been touched since then. It was archived there in July 2010. So why is this still here as if it were current, unsigned and undated?

Ikip is now officially, non-sockily editing as Okip.

Please {{Ping}} me to discuss. --Thnidu (talk) 04:37, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

Input sought[edit]

I've made a comment at Wikipedia talk:Notability (people)#Creative professionals guidelines pertaining to notability criteria for writers. I think members of this project (particularly those interested in contemporary poetry and living poets) could bring valuable perspectives to the discussion. Cynwolfe (talk)

Split discussion[edit]

Please comment on the proposal to split Alexandrine at Talk:Alexandrine#Proposal to split article. Thanks. Phil wink (talk) 16:44, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

New template[edit]

I've just created {{Verse translation}} which in many cases will make it a little easier to nicely display a foreign-language verse text and its English translation. Cheers. Phil wink (talk) 18:48, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

New Article on David Gitin - up for deletion, please help[edit]

I started a new article for the poet David Gitin, and I'm having trouble finding online published sources that Wiki will recognize. David Gitin was part of the small press community in the 60's & 70's when he was most active, and none of those mimeo mags and journals are available now except in library archives. His letters to and from the most significant poets of the day are in major library collections across the country, but the letters are tucked in boxes in stacks. Within those letters are many quotes about his poetry, which I've included in the article - but I have no way to link to them. Many of the things he was involved with in the Haight Ashbury in the 60's are not well documented - Straight Theater, Poet's Theater, Bricoleur. What do I need to do to convince the moderators that rather than deleting the article, it should be public and available for those who can to add to the knowledge? BlueWind13 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:47, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Full text?[edit]

The guidelines here allow for the inclusion of the full text of poems if they are in the public domain, but is this appropriate? I see this in many of Robert Browning's works, e.g. "Porphyria's Lover", "Johannes Agricola in Meditation", "My Last Duchess", etc. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:13, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

In my opinion, it's only appropriate when the poem is short and can be put into its own little template box to the side, rather than given its own sentence in the text. Otherwise, Wikisource is generally the best location. --Midnightdreary (talk) 00:36, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Formatting help[edit]

Why in the following verse is a gap produced between the third and fourth lines? Zacwill (talk) 13:49, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

The ants about their clod employ their care,
And think the business of the world is theirs;
Lo: Waxen combs seem palaces to bees.

And mites conceive the world to be a cheese.

You have to close the <poem> and <blockquote> tags in the opposite order to that in which they were opened, so they are properly nested. Not sure why not doing that makes a gap though! --Deskford (talk) 14:19, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

The ants about their clod employ their care,
And think the business of the world is theirs;
Lo: Waxen combs seem palaces to bees.
And mites conceive the world to be a cheese.

I like to use <poem style="margin-left:2em"></poem>. This helps close the gap:

The ants about their clod employ their care,
And think the business of the world is theirs;
Lo: Waxen combs seem palaces to bees.
And mites conceive the world to be a cheese.

Cheers. Phil wink (talk) 14:27, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! Zacwill (talk) 16:39, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

Fix required for The Charge of the Light Brigade (poem)[edit]

In section The Charge of the Light Brigade (poem)#Later references subsection "In television", a user explicitly requested (in mainspace) in the second last bullet point that somebody should "fix" the point, presumably because they could not find references. Anyway, it would be good if somebody could help provide references for examples in that section while they're on it. Thanks in advance. The Average Wikipedian (talk) 05:26, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Tales of a Wayside Inn[edit]

Tales of a Wayside Inn tells two stories, in different paragraphs, about Longfellow's decision to call the book that instead of The Sudbury Tales. These would be best reconciled and combined.

Details in Talk:Tales of a Wayside Inn# Change of title. Whether you choose to discuss it here or there, add a "Discussion at..." note in the other place.

Please {{Ping}} me to discuss. --Thnidu (talk) 03:58, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

I'm already addressing this. --Midnightdreary (talk) 11:22, 7 October 2016 (UTC)