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Request for comment on Biographies of living people[edit]

Hello Wikiproject! Currently there is a discussion which will decide whether wikipedia will delete 49,000 articles about a living person without references, here:

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies of living people

Since biographies of living people covers so many topics, nearly all wikiproject topics will be effected.

The two opposing positions which have the most support is:

  1. supports the deletion of unreferenced articles about a living person, User:Jehochman
  2. opposes the deletion of unreferenced articles about a living person, except in limited circumstances, User:Collect

Comments are welcome. Keep in mind that by default, editor's comments are hidden. Simply press edit next to the section to add your comment.

Please keep in mind that at this point, it seems that editors support deleting unreferenced article if they are not sourced, so your project may want to pursue the projects below.

Input sought[edit]

I've made a comment at Wikipedia talk:Notability (people)#Creative professionals guidelines pertaining to notability criteria for writers. I think members of this project (particularly those interested in contemporary poetry and living poets) could bring valuable perspectives to the discussion. Cynwolfe (talk)

21st century in poetry[edit]

An article called Poetry in the early 21st century was deleted this week, and the useful content merged to 21st century in poetry, which was previously just a table of years linking to 2001 in poetry, 2002 in poetry, etc. The result of this is that 21st century in poetry now has a lot more information, but it hasn't been checked or brought up to the standard of the individual pages. Could somebody have a look at it? 阝工巳几千凹父工氐 (talk) 09:55, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

De laudibus Christi[edit]

I've been working on Cento vergilianus de laudibus Christi for the past few days. It's one of the first examples of a Christian poem, as well as one of the few extant examples of a poem by a women. I'd love it if anyone wants to look over what I've made. Thanks.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 05:18, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

5th century BC poetry page[edit]

I took out the "Works" category because each poet's name is linked to his own page, where his works are listed. AMCoop (talk) 21:10, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

On using line number in poems[edit]

If this is the wrong place to ask this, my apologies. Is there any policy in Wikipedia about including line numbers with poems? I didn't see any documentation on this anywhere I checked. I came across a poem where someone had tried to do this, and because you can't just type spaces off to the right side of the poem, the line numbers ended up getting embedded into the left side, and therefore becomes the first character of the line. I would think there would be some kind of provision for this, as long poems benefit from line numbers. But maybe it's impossible to do here on Wikipedia. Thanks. __209.179.86.123 (talk) 03:13, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Nothing wrong with asking here -- other than that this project doesn't seem to get a lot of traffic these days. I am not aware of a guideline for verse line numbers, and I can imagine a few reasons they might be avoided:
  • Wikipedia generally eschews long quotations (of anything), and if a poem is under copyright, it may be against policy to quote extensively from it.
  • Although we would want a reference to which lines were quoted (e.g. "Hero and Leander, lines 1-16"), numbering each line (or every 5th or 10th or whatever) would probably be considered overkill unless the article in question referenced these quoted lines (probably multiple times), so therefore the numbers were actually necessary to help the reader.
  • A third reason to avoid might be: it's awkward to format ... which is not news to you.
Having said all this, it is not at all impossible to imagine cases in which numbered verse lines might still be a good idea. I'd be interested in looking at the actual case you have in mind... which article is it? I don't have an excellent solution -- a string of spaces typically disappers during HTML rendering, and spacing with something like {{pad}} would make lining up the numbers a real pain. The only thing that comes to mind is a table, for example:
On Hellespont, guilty of true love's blood,
In view and opposite two cities stood,
Sea-borderers, disjoin'd by Neptune's might;
The one Abydos, the other Sestos hight.
At Sestos Hero dwelt; Hero the fair, 5
Whom young Apollo courted for her hair,
And offer'd as a dower his burning throne,
Where she should sit, for men to gaze upon.
The outside of her garments were of lawn,
The lining purple silk, with gilt stars drawn; 10
Her wide sleeves green, and border'd with a grove,
Where Venus in her naked glory strove
To please the careless and disdainful eyes
Of proud Adonis, that before her lies;
Her kirtle blue, whereon was many a stain, 15
Made with the blood of wretched lovers slain. (Hero and Leander, lines 1-16.)
This has the possibly unfortunate effect of spacing the lines out vertically. But some might find this a positive effect. Others may have other formatting ideas. Phil wink (talk) 05:43, 8 February 2016 (UTC)