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Apparently due to some pointy shenanigans at AfD recently, the Fans of Adult Media and Entertainment Awards are now up for deletion. Guy1890 (talk) 04:03, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

  • I guess similarly to the above section, Maria Swan's recent AfD seems to have slipped through the cracks as well. Guy1890 (talk) 02:00, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
Same thing with Sarah Kozer's recent AfD. Guy1890 (talk) 02:52, 16 August 2015 (UTC)


When a few months ago i adeed a new section in a pornographic actor's article someone deleted it saying it's not "encyclopedic". It was a section about the performer's penis size and technique in porn scenes. Why can't we add such content in pornographic actors' articles? For example manu musicians have "Artistry" section in their articles which is about their voice, their songs' style and critical comments to their appearance. Pornographic actors are only known for their penis, vagina, boobs, ass or whatever. Why can't we write anything about the only talent thet are famous for? --Croxx036 (talk) 20:49, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

I would really need to see the specific section and article to determine what was meant by "not encylopedic" to form a full opinion. However, I think it possibly may be relevant in some instances in this particular field, but it really depends how much independent secondary coverage there is. You can't just add some bloke's cock size to his article for the hell of it, but if there are reviews of films and porn bios which discuss this particular feature, then it would possibly be germane to such an article. Betty Logan (talk) 21:32, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
For example Mandingo is known for the very big size of his penis. A few months ago in his article there was something like this; "Mandingo is known for the large size of his penis. According to some sources it is considered as one of the largest male genitalias in the porn industry." Why this is not encyclopedic? Even New York Post wrote about his penis size commenting "that would make even Anthony Weiner blush" [1]. This kind of comments from reliable sources about the performers can be use in the articles. --Croxx036 (talk) 07:37, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
BLPs require "high-quality" reliable sources. Crap you find online generally doesn't qualify. "" is not an acceptable source for a BLP. "" is not an acceptable source for a BLP. The New York Post may be an acceptable source, but you can't cite it for things it doesn't say. When you can't find genuinely reliable sourcing for whatever yoiu want to insert into an article, it's not appropriate behavior for you to cast aspersions on editors enforcing BLP standards. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 17:25, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Mainstream media as a rule doesn't usually cover porn, so when it does I think it is an opportunity to extend Wikipedia's coverage of the porn industry with legitimately sourced information. If the NY Post consider Mandango's 12-inch schlong relevant then I don't see a legitimate reason to exclude it from the article, in this particular instance. Betty Logan (talk) 19:11, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Nobody excluded it. Nobody put it in. Instead, the Post article was cited for claims it didn't make. I fixed that, and Croxx is whining about things that didn't happen rather than trying to edit reasonably. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 19:24, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Listen, can you just stop follow me? Keep your opinion to yourself, it's so clear that you're against porn articles. --Croxx036 (talk) 19:37, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Just to be clear on this, I wasn't impying anything about the nature of your edits, or taking Croxx's side. It's the same with all content disputes: we need to see the specific claim and the source it is attributed to before determining whether something should be included or not. I was basically just pointing out that in principle I am not opposed to discussing someone's penis size in an article if it can be reliably sourced and context relevant. Betty Logan (talk) 19:34, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Requested move: Camgirl to Webcam model[edit]

Discussion to rename Camgirl to Webcam model at Talk:Camgirl#Requested move 29 August 2015. Rebecca1990 (talk) 17:41, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Is she notable?[edit]

Is Eden Von Hell [2] a notable porn actress? Dwanyewest (talk) 23:41, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

It seems like she'd be more likely to be evaluated under as a model rather than as a pornographic actress (since I can't seem to find that she's appeared in any adult movies), but I'm also not familiar at all with how one evaluates the notability of MMA fighters either on Wikipedia. [3] [4] [5] Guy1890 (talk) 04:47, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Adding draft, category, redirect and template classes[edit]

The project should allow for draft, category, redirect and template classes so that Category:NA-Class Pornography articles can be split apart. It would help identify the few draft articles in there. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:03, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

How would we go about allowing for that? I've spent a fair amount of time assessing unassessed articles that were under this Project's purview in the past, and we're basically down to these articles (Unassessed-Class & Unknown-Importance), which mostly appeared to be Page 3 Girls - that were at one time in the recent past added to this Project because (at the time) it was thought that appearing as a Page 3 Girl meant that one was involved in softcore pornography. There was a controversy over that then as well, and I'm not how (or whether or not) it was resolved.
These articles (NA-Class & Mid-Importance) are mostly re-directs & templates, and these articles (NA-Class & Low-Importance) are mostly re-directs. The articles that you basically highlighted above (NA-Class & NA-Importance) do have a lot of categories, templates, images, portals & re-directs in them, but that's an area (categories, templates, images & portals) that I've strayed away from in my Wikipedia editing so far. It basically has appeared to me that there weren't any draft articles in that listing either.
I think it's true (for some reason) that even when one classifies an article as as re-direct (maybe just within this Project?) that it appears as "NA" on the article's talk page. Guy1890 (talk) 05:38, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Changes need to be made to Template:WikiProject Pornography. Some projects reject expanding the classes, some accept it. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 18:48, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Can you give us an example of a Project template that supports the change that you're asking for, so we can compare it to this Project's template? Again, editing templates has not been something that I personally have done much of on Wikipedia so far. Guy1890 (talk) 00:54, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Template:WikiProject Biography uses Template:Class mask and added the categories at Template:WikiProject Biography/class with this edit. I don't know if there's one that directly uses the template alone (or else we can just do it as an admin edit request at the template page) as most admins I think know this stuff. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 17:26, 5 October 2015 (UTC)