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Mentioning bipolar diagnosis in BLPs[edit]

Please comment at WT:Biographies of living persons#Bipolar disorder. PermStrump(talk) 16:51, 25 May 2016‎ (UTC)

Edit needed in Resources section[edit]

I don't know how to edit information in the boxes on the Project's home page. Under Resources, Open Directory ( has closed, so we should either remove it as a resource or link to the archive.


Abuse of teenager[edit]

This teen is exhibiting the following behaviors: Isolation, severe depression, aggression, leaving home for days, weight loss, grades failing, has quit activities, i.e., gymnastics, diving team, wants to quit school, all these, among others (seems to hate his parents and siblings, started using marijuana), and no one can get him to talk about what's troubling him.

I believe this child, age 17, has been abused, possibly at school (bullied or worse). Is there any way to get him to talk about what happened? He simply will not talk to anyone about what's wrong but seems miserable and looks disheveled. His parents think it may be a "phase" he's going through. His parents have taken him to many counselors but he won't participate and refuses to take medication. His father is in fear that he may hurt himself.

My question is what kind of professional should be engaged for a person with these symptoms?

2601:C2:4102:B274:C55C:ECF4:5D65:F56D (talk) 22:38, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

I suggest you contact an educational psychologist rather than posting here. You are unlikely to get from a Wikipedia talk page the nuanced, professional help that may be required by this person. Famousdog (c) 11:01, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement![edit]

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Facto Post – Issue 2 – 13 July 2017[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 2 – 13 July 2017
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Editorial: Core models and topics[edit]

Wikimedians interest themselves in everything under the sun — and then some. Discussion on "core topics" may, oddly, be a fringe activity, and was popular here a decade ago.

The situation on Wikidata today does resemble the halcyon days of 2006 of the English Wikipedia. The growth is there, and the reliability and stylistic issues are not yet pressing in on the project. Its Berlin conference at the end of October will have five years of achievement to celebrate. Think Wikimania Frankfurt 2005.

Progress must be made, however, on referencing "core facts". This has two parts: replacing "imported from Wikipedia" in referencing by external authorities; and picking out statements, such as dates and family relationships, that must not only be reliable but be seen to be reliable.

In addition, there are many properties on Wikidata lacking a clear data model. An emerging consensus may push to the front key sourcing and biomedical properties as requiring urgent attention. Wikidata's "manual of style" is currently distributed over thousands of discussions. To make it coalesce, work on such a core is needed.


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Conveyed concept[edit]

Can anyone recommend any sources that discuss the use of this concept that might be used as references for it? Another user has checked most of the existing references, and has found that none of them actually discuss this term. If it's impossible to find verifiable sources that discuss the concept, the page will probably need to go to WP:AfD.Landscape repton (talk) 08:15, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Epidemiology of depression, faulty source[edit]

Links to first source is outdated(For the picture) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:35, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Donald Trump's handshakes for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Donald Trump's handshakes is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donald Trump's handshakes until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Sagecandor (talk) 04:44, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Women in Red's new initiative: #1day1woman[edit]

Women in Red is pleased to introduce...
A new initiative for worldwide online coverage: #1day1woman
  • Create articles on any day of any month
  • Cover women and their works in any field of interest
  • Feel free to add articles in other languages, too
  • Social media hashtag campaign: #1day1woman

(To subscribe: Women in Red/English language list and Women in Red/international list. Unsubscribe: Women in Red/Opt-out list) --Ipigott (talk) 11:28, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Video game rage[edit]

Could someone please write an article about rage against video games? (For example, the term "rage-quit" refers to this) These I'd think include yelling at the game, throwing the controller, purposefully breaking the console or game itself, taking violence out on someone else because of actions on a video game (I can think of one specific example in Anderson, South Carolina when someone killed their family member over a video game), etc. I feel like this merits an article like computer rage, road rage, etc. Please and thank you. Philmonte101 😊😄😞 (talk) 02:40, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Requested move of Decision-making[edit]

There is a requested move at Talk:Decision-making#Requested move 28 July 2017 which would benefit from a broader input. Thanks. No such user (talk) 14:31, 9 August 2017 (UTC)


I am having some disagreements with other editors about whether the Big-5 personality trait neuroticism counts as a medical disorder. This is relevant because wikipedia has more stringent sourcing requirements for medical information than for science information.

I am not an expert but I am rather confident in my belief that personality traits are not medical conditions, but if there are any experts in psychology around, could they provide some input? Thanks, --Nanite (talk) 17:14, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Of course not. No one is diagnosed with a trait and the statistics are broad population statistics. Individual pathologies that are neurotic are medical diagnoses. It's like mercury in water. It has broad scientific studies that have natural amounts of mercury and differences between location. Mercury in water is not medical until it manifests itself as mercury poisoning and even then it's individual diagnoses and not broad samples of water. The diagnoses is based on the individual's level of mercury, not the amount in his drinking cup and we don't apply MEDRS standards to water quality articles even though they may be related to a medical condition. --DHeyward (talk) 18:50, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
If this is in relation to the Google memo ruckus, it's worth noting that the engineer who wrote the thing claimed that (1) women had higher rates of neuroticism than men, and (2) this was due to biological differences. In light of the latter, I'd say there's some overlap of WP:PSYCH and WP:MED here. Let's all try to WP:AGF, okay? —Shelley V. Adamsblame
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Facto Post – Issue 3 – 11 August 2017[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 3 – 11 August 2017
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Wikimania report[edit]

Interviewed by Facto Post at the hackathon, Lydia Pintscher of Wikidata said that the most significant recent development is that Wikidata now accounts for one third of Wikimedia edits. And the essential growth of human editing.


Impressive development work on Internet-in-a-Box featured in the WikiMedFoundation annual conference on Thursday. Hardware is Raspberry Pi, running Linux and the Kiwix browser. It can operate as a wifi hotspot and support a local intranet in parts of the world lacking phone signal. The medical use case is for those delivering care, who have smartphones but have to function in clinics in just such areas with few reference resources. Wikipedia medical content can be served to their phones, and power supplied by standard lithium battery packages.

Yesterday Katherine Maher unveiled the draft Wikimedia 2030 strategy, featuring a picturesque metaphor, "roads, bridges and villages". Here "bridges" could do with illustration. Perhaps it stands for engineering round or over the obstacles to progress down the obvious highways. Internet-in-a-Box would then do fine as an example.

"Bridging the gap" explains a take on that same metaphor, with its human component. If you are at Wikimania, come talk to WikiFactMine at its stall in the Community Village, just by the 3D-printed display for Bassel Khartabil; come hear T Arrow talk at 3 pm today in Drummond West, Level 3.


  • Plaudit for the Medical Wikipedia app, content that is loaded into Internet-In-A-Box with other material, such as per-country documentation.
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ISO 4 redirects help![edit]

{{Infobox journal}} now features ISO 4 redirect detection to help with the creation and maintenance of these redirects, and will populate Category:Articles with missing ISO 4 redirects. ISO 4 redirects help readers find journal articles based on their official ISO abbreviations (e.g. J. Phys. AJournal of Physics A), and also help with compilations like WP:JCW and WP:JCW/TAR.

The category is populated by the |abbreviation= parameter of {{Infobox journal}}. If you're interested in created missing ISO 4 redirects

  • Load up an article from the category (or only check for e.g. Psychology journals).
  • One or more maintenance templates should be at the top of page, with links to create the relevant redirects and verify the abbreviations.
  • There are links in the maintenance templates to facilitate this. See full detailed instructions at Category:Articles with missing ISO 4 redirects.
  • |abbreviation= should contain dotted, title cased versions of the abbreviations (e.g. J. Phys., not J Phys or J. phys.). Also verify that the dots are appropriate.
  • If you cannot determine the correct abbreviation, or aren't sure, leave a message at WT:JOURNALS and someone will help you.
  • Use the link in the maintenance template to create the redirects and automatically tag them with {{R from ISO 4}}.
  • WP:NULL/WP:PURGE the original article to remove the maintenance templates.

Thanks. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 13:39, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Facto Post – Issue 4 – 18 September 2017[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 4 – 18 September 2017
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Editorial: Conservation data[edit]

The IUCN Red List update of 14 September led with a threat to North American ash trees. The International Union for Conservation of Nature produces authoritative species listings that are peer-reviewed. Examples used as metonyms for loss of species and biodiversity, and discussion of extinction rates, are the usual topics covered in the media to inform us about this area. But actual data matters.

Dorstenia elata, a critically endangered South American herb, contained in Moraceae, the family of figs and mulberries

Clearly, conservation work depends on decisions about what should be done, and where. While animals, particularly mammals, are photogenic, species numbers run into millions. Plant species lie at the base of typical land-based food chains, and vegetation is key to the habitats of most animals.

ContentMine dictionaries, for example as tabulated at d:Wikidata:WikiFactMine/Dictionary list, enable detailed control of queries about endangered species, in their taxonomic context. To target conservation measures properly, species listings running into the thousands are not what is needed: range maps showing current distribution are. Between the will to act, and effective steps taken, the services of data handling are required. There is now no reason at all why Wikidata should not take up the burden.


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RS needed for link between Intentional infliction of emotional distress and Suicidal ideation[edit]

Hello. Is anyone able to find a couple of reliable third-party sources about how Intentional infliction of emotional distress can lead to Suicidal ideation please? I would like to add it to both articles but need an RS (ideally more than one!). Please ping me when you reply. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 00:19, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

AfD: Accelerated experiential dynamic psychotherapy[edit]

Expert input at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Accelerated experiential dynamic psychotherapy would be appreciated. – Joe (talk) 18:16, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Facto Post – Issue 5 – 17 October 2017[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 5 – 17 October 2017
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Editorial: Annotations[edit]

Annotation is nothing new. The glossators of medieval Europe annotated between the lines, or in the margins of legal manuscripts of texts going back to Roman times, and created a new discipline. In the form of web annotation, the idea is back, with texts being marked up inline, or with a stand-off system. Where could it lead?

1495 print version of the Digesta of Justinian, with the annotations of the glossator Accursius from the 13th century

ContentMine operates in the field of text and data mining (TDM), where annotation, simply put, can add value to mined text. It now sees annotation as a possible advance in semi-automation, the use of human judgement assisted by bot editing, which now plays a large part in Wikidata tools. While a human judgement call of yes/no, on the addition of a statement to Wikidata, is usually taken as decisive, it need not be. The human assent may be passed into an annotation system, and stored: this idea is standard on Wikisource, for example, where text is considered "validated" only when two different accounts have stated that the proof-reading is correct. A typical application would be to require more than one person to agree that what is said in the reference translates correctly into the formal Wikidata statement. Rejections are also potentially useful to record, for machine learning.

As a contribution to data integrity on Wikidata, annotation has much to offer. Some "hard cases" on importing data are much more difficult than average. There are for example biographical puzzles: whether person A in one context is really identical with person B, of the same name, in another context. In science, clinical medicine require special attention to sourcing (WP:MEDRS), and is challenging in terms of connecting findings with the methodology employed. Currently decisions in areas such as these, on Wikipedia and Wikidata, are often made ad hoc. In particular there may be no audit trail for those who want to check what is decided.

Annotations are subject to a World Wide Web Consortium standard, and behind the terminology constitute a simple JSON data structure. What WikiFactMine proposes to do with them is to implement the MEDRS guideline, as a formal algorithm, on bibliographical and methodological data. The structure will integrate with those inputs the human decisions on the interpretation of scientific papers that underlie claims on Wikidata. What is added to Wikidata will therefore be supported by a transparent and rigorous system that documents decisions.

An example of the possible future scope of annotation, for medical content, is in the first link below. That sort of detailed abstract of a publication can be a target for TDM, adds great value, and could be presented in machine-readable form. You are invited to discuss the detailed proposal on Wikidata, via its talk page.


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