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Timeline of Major Record Labels[edit]

To those who are familiar with the history of major record labels: please see my comment at Template talk:Timeline of Major Record Labels#Decca, MCA, Warner and update/improve that template as necessary. Thanks. - dcljr (talk) 20:01, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Crying Sun Records[edit]

There is currently a discussion at Crying Sun Records to redirect/merge it with Radio Birdman, your comments/feedback are welcome at Crying Sun Records merger proposal. Dan arndt (talk) 10:15, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Merger proposal: Atlantic Records UK to Atlantic Records[edit]

Hi, I've started a proposal to merge Atlantic Records UK into Atlantic Records. You can join the discussion here: Talk:Atlantic Records#Merger proposal – Atlantic Records UK — bieχχ (talk) 10:40, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

NCORP[edit]

It seems the notability standards for recording companies are the basic ones for companies. By that standard, there seems to be almost no sourcing for notability present in most of the articles in this field., and, furthermore, the contents seems to rely only the the company's own page. DGG ( talk ) 05:34, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Mistlur Records[edit]

Article has been tagged with {{Unreferenced}} since 2007, and hasn't been edited for anything other than cleanup since 2008. A talk page post (also from 2007 and added by the article's creator) states the label is "certainly notable", but there's no indication that it meets WP:ORG. Perhaps, there's a specific guideline for record labels which it satsifies? I was thinking this should be WP:PRODded, but I'd figure I check here first to see if any feels otherwise. WP:REDIRECT might also be a viable option since according the article, it's now owned by MNW Music. That article, however, is also tagged as unsourced; so, reverting might just be redirecting a problem article to another problem article. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:16, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Requesting peer review of Bitbird[edit]

Hello. This is to let the WikiProject know that I've opened a Peer review page for the article Bitbird, which I have slightly improved over this month. If anyone is interesting in reviewing the page, any comments should be made here. Thanks! Jalen D. Folf (talk) 20:25, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Project status[edit]

@Richard3120 and EddieHugh: The Albums project might be willing to adopt this mostly inactive/on life support project, if nobody here disagrees violently. For redirects such as RWG Records or maybe Coptic Cat (still on AFC/Redirects) it's simple enough, just add the project on the talk page if the redirect has a talk page. But for "my" first draft some nits almost went seriously wrong, e.g., I didn't grok that DRAFTNOCAT has nothing to do with project templates on draft talk pages. –84.46.52.138 (talk) 09:35, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

I'm not part of this project; I just answered a query when passing by once. EddieHugh (talk) 11:31, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

A new newsletter directory is out![edit]

A new Newsletter directory has been created to replace the old, out-of-date one. If your WikiProject and its taskforces have newsletters (even inactive ones), or if you know of a missing newsletter (including from sister projects like WikiSpecies), please include it in the directory! The template can be a bit tricky, so if you need help, just post the newsletter on the template's talk page and someone will add it for you.

– Sent on behalf of Headbomb. 03:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Notability and sourcing[edit]

I notice, upon looking at the notability criteria more generally, that for music, and that for companies, that no specific mention is made of record labels. I notice further, that, not only do many of the articles on record labels seem to fail the appropriate notability criteria (as mentioned by DGG (talk · contribs)) as well as the appropriate criteria for references and sources. Could I please receive some clarifications on the due process for (i) adding articles and (ii) cleaning up existing articles?

Also, I am new, but, would I be correct in guessing that this project page lacks the layout of fex. WP:LING due to inactivity? Would I be permitted to edit the page up to the standards, or is it best to pass a motion somewhere to merge it with other projects, as is discussed lower in the page? LingNerd007 (talk) 21:24, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Record labels are not specifically covered with their own section in WP:MUSIC, and there is no consensus about how to do so (I attempted, once, and failed). WP:MUSIC does have language in the section on artists that gives the only real guidance about judging notability - length of operation and significance of roster, taken holistically. Any label that meets the GNG, additionally, would also merit inclusion. There are very few people actively working on record label articles - I'm one of the most active, and most of what I do is watch over a bunch of them to ward off vandalism and overly-hasty deletion, rather than write new articles or work on sourcing. (I have a day job now.) This Project isn't very active; WikiProjects, it seems, tend to rise and fall based on the presence or absence of one or a handful of extremely active editors, and I think in general that fewer WikiProjects are active than last decade (or perhaps communities have just moved on to other, shinier topics). It was proposed not too long ago to close up shop here and upmerge operations to WikiProject Albums or WikiProject Discographies - to be honest, in the long run, I have a feeling that's all going to end up being the same house. Chubbles (talk) 00:27, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
Hmmm. This leaves me feeling unsure how to treat any given article - some of those I have looked at often only refer to their own site, for example. The criteria of having noteworthy secondary publications seems the most useful in creation, but by this same metric the aforementioned should be nominated for deletion. Personally, this would seem needlessly hasty in what is likely to be the majority of cases. I suppose for now I will err on the side of caution with adding articles, but I'll leave motions for deletion alone in the hope that the matter is eventually cleared up. Where possible and when interested I'll add sources. I'm not particularly a 'record label' person, but I do like music and reading about said music, so I am happy to help where I can given clear direction and parallel with personal interest. As regards activity on Projects here, I feel that anecdotally this is linked to the lessening of activity on old-school message- and posting-boards, forums, and so on (excluding Reddit and the various image boards, which seem to only grow in popularity). I don't think it's that people want what's hip, but the two are undeniably associated on the subjective level. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LingNerd007 (talkcontribs) 00:33, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Categories with the most company articles tagged for failing NCORP and lacking references[edit]

The discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Notability#Categories_with_the_most_company_articles_tagged_for_failing_NCORP_and_lacking_references might be of interest to this project. A significant number of articles on record labels are tagged as having no references at all. I understand that bringing them all to AfD at the same time is overwhelming and likely beyond the capacity of the volunteers at this project and the participants at AfD. Is a clean-up effort possible? Vexations (talk) 04:04, 3 May 2019 (UTC)