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New target for an R from Merge[edit]

I'm curious what would be considered best practice for handling an R from Merge when you wish to change the target. From the text of the template and from discussions like this I gather that attribution is the central concern and I appreciate that, but if the target is altered then the text of the template is inaccurate, and it seems considerably less likely that the edit history of the redirect will even be re-discovered at a future date.

I find concrete examples are often easier to understand so here's my example:

How should I proceed in this example? One option I can see is to change the target and add a note below the "R from Merge" template explaining about the old target and the merge. Another option might be to change the target and replace the "R from Merge" template with a note explaining the old target and the merge. Or would it be OK to just change the target and forget about the inaccuracies caused by the text of the R from Merge template? Or should I change target and remove "R from Merge"? If anyone could provide some direction in this matter I'd be grateful. -Thibbs (talk) 10:25, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

As noted at Template:R from merge, the template has a parameter that lets you specify the page being merged to (though the text is still a bit inaccurate), so you can safely (?) retarget the redirect while still keeping a note of the merge.
Also, as the previous discussion says, {{copied}} should be placed on the talk pages of both the redirect and the merged article. Anon124 (+2) (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 19:11, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
Notify Thibbs. Anon124 (+2) (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 19:12, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
You are great, Anon124! That's exactly the info I was looking for. Thank you. -Thibbs (talk) 19:54, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Bot Request to create redirects to lists, from the things they are lists of[edit]

I have opened an RfC at the Village Pump, regarding a bot request that will create over 77000 redirects. Please reply there with any comments. Jamesmcmahon0 (talk) 21:01, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Template:No redirect is not working[edit]


{{No redirect}}, a template used on 49,963 pages for the purpose of producing a link to a redirected page (rather than a link to the redirect's target), is not working. More detail on the template's talk page. A good sign is that the equivalent template on the French Wikipedia is working with the expected behaviour. Can someone please have a look? Place Clichy (talk) 16:51, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Evidently a misunderstanding resolved yesterday, Template talk:No redirect#Does this template work?.
This hour I revised the documentation to cover the second parameter clearly, i hope, and to provide a redlink illustration as at --P64 (talk) 16:24, 29 June 2015 (UTC)


An RfC has been opened to see if WP:NOTFAQ and WP:NOTHOWTO should or should not apply to redirects. For the discussion, see WT:NOT#RfC: Should we add a footnote to WP:NOTHOWTO/WP:NOTFAQ stating that it does not apply to redirects? -- (talk) 04:55, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Redirect wikiproject class?[edit]

Hello! I've been doing a few merges at Category:Articles to be merged after an Articles for deletion discussion, and typically I just remove the wikiproject banners from the resulting redirect. Should I leave the banners and change the class to redirect? I don't see any point in keeping the banners, but I may be missing something. --Cerebellum (talk) 23:14, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

It may be reasonable that some project delete its banners from redirected pages, but I see no reason offhand and it seems to me unreasonable that anyone else should delete them. --P64 (talk) 13:53, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
Seconded – if what you describe is whether or not to keep project banners on the talk pages of subject-page redirects, then yes, they should be kept and the class(es) changed to "Redirect". The {{Talk page of redirect}} template should also be used and placed at the TOP above the banners (shortcut = {{tpr}}). Painius  23:11, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Protected redirect templates[edit]

Seems that when {{R fully protected}} was changed in 2014 to specify full protection, it was still being used on semi-protected redirects. Many of those redirects thus sit flagged with a now inaccurate template. This obviously isn't urgent, but if you're bored, maybe one or two of you will look through its transclusions and replace with {{R semi-protected}} where appropriate. (talk) 10:17, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Crystal Clear app clock-orange.svg In progress Painius  00:29, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done Painius  10:34, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Redirects in article categories, workaround[edit]

Placement of redirects in article categories, as an alternative to placement of target articles there, is inadequate for general navigation; it provides navigation only down the category tree, downward navigation. So the practice isn't worth general support; as a guideline it's one to be broken frequently.

Prompted by discussion elsewhere (WT:Categorization of people, section "Clarification sought ...", now section 4, which cannot be linked directly), I have provided some further explanation (there) and illustration of one workaround that (previously suggested here and there without illustration).

Illustration of workaround:

[2] we provide/instruct navigation to incoming redirects that are substantial. For illustration see Janet and Allan Ahlberg [current version], end of page --following any stub tags, which the example page does not include-- (quote)
See more categories and inter-language links: Allan Ahlberg, Janet Ahlberg, Jessica Ahlberg

Thus, voila, navigation at one remove to Category:Kate Greenaway Medal winners (Janet) and Category:British children's book illustrators (Janet and daughter Jessica Ahlberg), no:Allan Ahlberg and pl:Allan Ahlberg.

The workaround does not provide navigation from Allan Ahlberg at or to coverage here, or in Catalan or French languages, which is joint. Such reciprocal interlanguage linkage needs incorporation of Wikipedia redirect pages by Wikidata (perhaps in a fancy way needing software upgrade) or maintenance for this purpose of the related articles in all languages. --P64 (talk) 22:43, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Printworthy and Unprintworthy[edit]

Category:Printworthy redirects and Category:Unprintworthy redirects have been nominated for deletion.

I would assume that {{printworthy redirect}} and {{unprintworthy redirect}} are also affected

-- (talk) 06:01, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

The discussion was closed early, see Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2015_October_24 -- (talk) 06:08, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Can someone please take a look...[edit] Talk:William Sloane Coffin, Sr.. There's a couple of questions there, one of them specific to redirects. BMK (talk) 23:23, 8 November 2015 (UTC)