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- 1 "Russian Winter"
- 2 RfC in Talk:Mat (Russian profanity)
- 3 AfC submission
- 4 Lobachevskian geometry or just hyperbolic geometry?
- 5 Russian stress marks
- 6 Władysław Korczyc
- 7 Proposal to merge Karachays and Balkars to Karachay-Balkars
- 8 Territorial changes of Russia
- 9 A 1964/5 Soviet film needs eyes and assistance.
- 10 AfD
- Suggestion rename it to general winter, General Winter, General Frost, or General Snow, shows directly the warfare connection WillemienH (talk) 10:04, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
RfC in Talk:Mat (Russian profanity)
- What sources? Declined. - üser:Altenmann >t 06:30, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
Lobachevskian geometry or just hyperbolic geometry?
In the lead of the page on hyperbolic geometry in the part that explains the name I wrote:
- In Russia it is commonly named Lobachevskian geometry after one of its discoverers the Russian geometer Nikolai Lobachevsky.
- In Russia, it is still almost exclusively referred to as the Lobachevskian geometry--Ymblanter (talk) 07:18, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
Russian stress marks
Is there a clear guidance on whether stress marks should or should not be added to names in Russian in Wikipedia articles? If so, please could you point me to where it says it? If not, a decision should be made. It is very inconsistent at the moment, which makes it look messy. For example:
- Влади́мир Влади́мирович Пу́тин at Vladimir Putin,
- Волгогра́д at Volgograd
- Сою́з Сове́тских Социалисти́ческих Респу́блик at Soviet Union
- Мари́я Ю́рьевна Шара́пова at Maria Sharapova
- Россия at Russia
- Санкт-Петербург at Saint Petersburg
- Москва at Moscow
- Александр Юрьевич Зубков at Alexandr Zubkov
There are arguments for and against, of course. Essentially, for people who already have some familiarity with Russian, they are useful (and probably more convenient than the IPA transcription, even where this is given), but for other people they are potentially misleading.
I am not suggesting diverting lots of time and effort to standardise articles, but clear guidance ought to be created and put somewhere that people looking for it will easily find it, and then hopefully standardisation will happen with time. I found Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Cyrillic), which suggests including them, but the page is labelled as just being no more than a proposal, and the associated talk page shows little evidence of current discussion.
P.S. In any case, it is useful to have stress information, so it should be shown in the IPA regardless. Somebody could even write a computer program that automatically deduces and adds an IPA transcription (where not already shown) in cases where somebody has added the stress marks, and then either deletes or retains the stress marks depending on the agreed style guide... It would need careful testing of course before letting it wreak havoc!
- This has been discussed on multiple occasions, with the general consensus being that the stress marks should be added where they are missing (if you search this WikiProject archives, you should be able to find at least a couple such discussions). If you see any instances where stress is missing, feel free to add the marks. At some point, stress marks were removed from articles where IPA was provided, but that practice, too, was discussed and found not to be helpful. Incidentally, there is no formal guideline on how to handle the stress marks; perhaps one would be beneficial. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); August 26, 2015; 12:10 (UTC)
Thank you. Yes, I do believe that if consensus is well established then it would be good for it to be documented somewhere and made easy to find, although I do not know enough about where things live to do any more than request here that the regulars do it. Otherwise you are destined to have the same question asked again in future! (By the way, my Russian isn't great, so I'd only add stress marks myself for very familiar names or where someone else has already added the IPA. Росси́я would be a good start, mind!) --Money money tickle parsnip (talk) 21:30, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
Proposal to merge Karachays and Balkars to Karachay-Balkars
I moved it from POV title Russian colonialism (and fixed the lede a bit). Please take a look at this confused essay. In particular, please fix the common Western confusion of Russia and the Soviet Union. - üser:Altenmann >t 01:32, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. I do not have time right now, but I added it at least to my watchlist.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:14, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ice hockey (film), (original title: Khokkeisty, Russian:"Хоккеисты), and help improve the article through books and reviews. Thanks. Schmidt, Michael Q. 14:56, 7 October 2015 (UTC)