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the reality of Kalgash[edit]

Someone's done a study on the physical feasibility of the system as described in Asimov's Nightfall story.

-- 65.94.169.222 (talk)

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Harej (talk) 16:56, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Mind Meld[edit]

The article about Mind Meld, a film relating to William Shatner's and Leonard Nimoy's careers in science fiction, has an ongoing featured article candidacy here. Any constructive comments you would be willing to provide there would be greatly appreciated. Neelix (talk) 12:14, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

"Landfall"[edit]

The usage and primary topic of Landfall is under discussion, see talk:Landfall (meteorology) -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 05:06, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Clone Wars (Star Wars) listed at Requested moves[edit]

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A requested move discussion has been initiated for Clone Wars (Star Wars) to be moved to Clone Wars. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 22:31, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

BioShock listed at Requested moves[edit]

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A requested move discussion has been initiated for BioShock to be moved to BioShock (video game). This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 22:34, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Star Wars: Battlefront listed at Requested moves[edit]

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A requested move discussion has been initiated for Star Wars: Battlefront to be moved to Star Wars: Battlefront (2004 video game). This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 23:03, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Ace Books FAR[edit]

I have nominated Ace Books for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Crispulop (talk) 08:41, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Tank Girl at FAC[edit]

Tank Girl (film), which is under the scope of this project, is currently listed at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates, see here. All comments are welcome. Freikorp (talk) 04:55, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Importance ratings[edit]

User:Fixuture has in the last few days changed dozens of importance ratings in the WP:Science Fiction category. For the most part this looks like good work, however there are a few that I disagree with. Following the changes there are no top-importance science fiction authors, series, or individual works. IMHO, Jules Verne and H.G. Wells should be top importance because they are "the fathers of science fiction"; Robert Heinlein, Isaac Asimov, and Arthur C. Clarke should be top importance as "the big three"; and Star Wars and Star Trek should be top importance as the most famous film/television science fiction series (maybe The War of the Worlds or The War of the Worlds (radio drama)?). There may be others. Any thoughts?--Wikimedes (talk) 15:53, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello, glad someone checked the changes. I'm not asserting that I'm infallible or something so it's good to hear other opinions on these. I intentionally moved all authors and individual works from top to high importance. That's because I think the larger patterns that span over many authors and individual works are more important than any of the works even if they were highly influential.
So a "Fathers of the science fiction genre"-article (History of science fiction is closest to that) would go to top with Arthur C. Clarke going to "high". Other WikiProjects have just 2 or 3 "Top" rated articles - usually the article of the same name as the WikiProject and some other article like the "History of {name of the WikiProject}" which might have split off the previously sole Top importance article.
There's also has another reason: removing authors and works from "Top" prevents people from adding what they find important authors and works in the genre, overbloating it, causing inconsistencies, unbalanced ratings etc. (it already had various mid-importance articles in there; it won't stop and doesn't have as clear lines as establishing the "high"-importance for those). For example I'd add Philip K. Dick to top if the authors which have been called "the big three" by some are going to be rated as such. And for works it's even more problematic (and yes there are many others). So I still think the "Top" importance rating should be reserved for articles related to the whole genre, not individual highly influential (to the genre and to popular culture) factors within science fiction - their significance in terms of shaping the genre and popularizing it should be detailed in articles such as "History of science fiction" or "Timeline of science fiction".
--Fixuture (talk) 16:19, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
That's certainly a reasonable approach, and the objective rating system is welcome. If there is a way to get some of the most influential individual authors, works, and series on the top-importance list without bloating the list with personal favorites, I would be in favor of it. Phillip K. Dick might well be on such a list and perhaps Larry Niven. In terms of individual works, probably Dune should be on the list, and perhaps Ringworld would make this list of top-importance works if Larry Niven didn't make the list of top-importance authors (even though The Integral Trees is my personal favorite by Larry Niven). I'm happy to leave your ratings in place until or unless there is consensus for expanding the top-importance list.--Wikimedes (talk) 17:35, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Commentary on sexist, misogynistic and/or anti-feminist feelings at Mad Max: Fury Road article[edit]

Opinions are needed on the following matter: Talk:Mad Max: Fury Road#Should commentary on sexist, misogynistic and/or anti-feminist feelings be included? A WP:Permalink for it is here. Flyer22 (talk) 00:10, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Scope and genre thread[edit]

In spite of the notice at the top of this page, it seems to be more watched than the Discussion Forum, so i want to draw attention to Wikipedia:WikiProject Science Fiction/Discussion Forum#Scope and genre, which I started. I hope for more project members to give their views. DES (talk) 17:49, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

"H. G. Wells' War of the Worlds (film)"[edit]

The usage and primary topic of H. G. Wells' War of the Worlds (film) is under discussion, see Talk:H. G. Wells' War of the Worlds (2005 film) -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 08:39, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

RfC: Are personal pronouns (including "who") to be avoided for fictional characters?[edit]

Please take part in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#RfC: Are personal pronouns (including "who") to be avoided for fictional characters? Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 23:09, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Just FYI, this non-neutrally set up reductio ad absurdum RfC has actually moved on to a more serious discussion about whether MoS should advise rewording to avoid particularly confusing uses of "who[m]" and "[s]he" when writing about fictional characters in an out-of-universe way (e.g. as intellectual property). Further input from projects that actually write encyclopedically about fictional characters a lot would be useful.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  03:49, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

RfC on unusual prepositions in titles[edit]

FYI: Pointer to relevant discussion elsewhere.

Please see Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters#Proposal regarding unusual prepositions in titles (re: clarification request in RM closure).  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  20:43, 22 August 2015 (UTC)