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Notice to participants at this page about adminship[edit]

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Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:24, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Category:Scottish Engineering Hall of Fame has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:Scottish Engineering Hall of Fame, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:59, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Scottish Engineering Hall of Fame[edit]

I have just been informed of a discussion - that already seems to have reached a conclusion without my input - about deletion of this category. I am somewhat baffled by some of the statements in the discussion (which had very few contributors) which don't seem to have been researched very well. eg "The youngest member died in 1986". There are four living members of the Hall of Fame. "If it had been a physical Hall of Fame I would have thought differently". Glasgow Kelvingrove museum has agreed to make it so - (ref http://www.engineeringhalloffame.org/index.html) The trade organisation "Scottish Engineering" also records new entrants. The annual dinner at which the new inductees are announced (the James Watt dinner) has approximately 400 attendees. This is very much an active enterprise, intended to inspire young people with role models from engineering, and it is expanded each year. Categories surely are intended to provide signposts to groups of related articles to encourage people to follow through and investigate and read related articles. I would contend that this is just as valid a category as any of the the other Science and Technology Halls of Fame (and removing it would be a poor outcome for Scottish interests in wikipedia profile, and a backward step for the visibility of Scottish Engineering achievements in Wikipedia). I do have a vested interest of course, but I was taken aback by the rapidity of the discussion being converted into a conclusion, and the equally rapid loss of opportunity for me to contribute to it. Not very inclusive I'm afraid and my enthusiasm for adding material to Wikipedia has diminished. Poor outcome for Scotland's coverage on Wikipedia. I have no idea how to go about appealing the "decision"! But I'd like to!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gordon Masterton (talkcontribs) 22:57, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

@Gordon Masterton: I just saw this post and I encourage you to keep editing. Thank you for creating the Scottish Engineering Hall of Fame article; I think that was great and my only concern was with the corresponding category. WP:DEFINING provides a good overview of when to create categories (versus WP:N for articles) that I would encourage you to take a look at. But, if you want to proceed, the process for contesting deletions is located at WP:DRV. Happy editing! RevelationDirect (talk) 21:37, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Rescissory Act 1661[edit]

I think that there is confusion in the sources over what the Rescissory Act 1661 was. I have explain in detail what the problem is on the talk page (see Talk:Rescissory Act 1661#Two Acts, but in essence two acts became law on the same day (28 March 1661) and the sources that have been used seem to pick one or the other rather than discussing both and their joint impact. I think an expert on the subject of Scottish Restoration Law, or an experienced historian of the period would be able to shine a light on the subject and improve the article greatly.

-- PBS (talk) 19:38, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Scots Observer, National Observer[edit]

The stub National Observer (UK) concerns a late 19th-century newspaper, originally Scots Observer of Edinburgh and later The National Observer of London. It doesn't say much, but enough to contradict the biography of one of its editor William Ernest Henley more than once on basic facts. See Talk:National Observer (UK).

More than half of the page as displayed is the navigation box Template:Defunct newspapers of the United Kingdom. Evidently the newspaper is not listed in the navbox (the word 'observer' does not appear). It should be listed there but I don't know where.

--P64 (talk) 17:51, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

Gordon Ramsay[edit]

There is a permanent disagreement on Gordon Ramsay about the question if he is a "Scottish chef" or a "British chef". For quite some time an ugly compromise "Scottish born British chef" kept the dogs at bay.

Unfortunately, nobody is able or willing to answer the central question: how do you qualify as a Scotsman?

Maybe you guys can shine a light on it, either here or directly at Talk:Gordon Ramsay#What is Scottish?. Thanks in advance! The Banner talk 19:39, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

He is both. What does it matter? Catfish Jim and the soapdish 20:43, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
That others are editwarring over it and I like to find a way to stop that. The Banner talk 20:49, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
I would tend to let them just get on with it. It doesn't really matter either way and keeps them occupied. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 21:11, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Clan Duncan[edit]

There has been a series of removals of the image of the crest at the Clan Duncan article, in a similar style to a significant aspect of a disruptive campaign by User:Angelo542 and associated socks around a year or so ago. I've requested semi-protection but if some eyes could be turned to the article, that would be helpful. Mutt Lunker (talk) 14:10, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:The 10,000 Challenge[edit]

Hi there. I've started a new initiative, the Wikipedia:The 10,000 Challenge. It's a long term goal to bring about 10,000 article improvements to the UK and Ireland. Through two contests involving just six or seven weeks of editing so far we've produced over 1500 improvements. Long term if we have more people chipping it and adding articles they've edited independently as well from all areas of the UK then reaching that target is all possible. I think it would be an amazing achievement to see 10,000 article improvements by editors chipping in with whatever area of the British Isles or subject that they work on. If you support this and think you might want to contribute towards this long term please sign up in the Contributors section. No obligations, just post work on anything you feel like whenever you want, though try to avoid basic stubs if possible as we're trying to reduce the overall stub count and improve general comprehension and quality. Thanks.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:47, 30 August 2016 (UTC)


Category:Lords of Parliament has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:Lords of Parliament, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 07:06, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

How did scotland get its name[edit]

My Daughter just got back from Greese and in the mountains she met an old lady that said that scotland got its name a long time ago when the greeks visited the land before time called the land skotina witch means ( dark = or land of clouds) dark is not used in an evil way but referres to the lands skys.24.163.139.249 (talk) 00:04, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

See the articles about Etymology of Scotland and Scoti. As it is says, the etymology is unclear. Though there is one theory with a Greek connection: More recently, Philip Freeman has speculated on the likelihood of a group of raiders adopting a name from an Indo-European root, *skot, citing the parallel in Greek skotos (σκότος), meaning "darkness, gloom". But that doesn't necessarily mean any Greek visited the land. --Fuaran buidhe (talk) 17:50, 10 September 2016 (UTC)