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Wikiproject Foresight proposed

Dear WikiProject Sociology members, User:John_b_cassel and myself have started a proposal for a WikiProject on Foresight and Futures! Please come and take a look on the WikiProject Council proposals page [1] if this sounds interesting to you! We appreciate any tips and help! Zhanli2012 (talk) 01:57, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Empowerment evaluation

This new article needs a huge amount of work, and probably expert attention. Voceditenore (talk) 17:46, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Removed WP:Sociology tag; added WP:Community tag. Meclee (talk) 19:24, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Social Network theory vs. analysis update

The Social network article has undergone major revision with existing content moved to Social network analysis. The Social network article is intended to be an introduction and outline for further editing and has been marked with several areas in need of expansion (editing and comments welcomed). Have re-routed some links to Social network page to article Social networking service. Updated disambiguation page Social_network_(disambiguation) and created similar page Social_networking_(disambiguation). Meclee (talk) 19:11, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

About perception of nationalities

This discusses how Americans perceive different nationalities. For instance, a Verizon ad in the US showed images of Mexicans in an advertisement saying that the company has coverage in Spain. WhisperToMe (talk) 06:55, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Reviewer needed for W. E. B. Du Bois Featured article status

The project has an opportunity to have another Featured Article: W. E. B. Du Bois is up for FA review, at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/W. E. B. Du Bois/archive1. It has two reviewers, but needs a third to be ratified. If you want to review it, make sure you are familiar with the criteria at Wikipedia:Featured article criteria, and dont be afraid to suggest improvements. Thanks. --Noleander (talk) 20:53, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

I've been watching the progress on this, and have added my support. Meclee (talk) 00:13, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

New social networking navbox

We're putting together a new navbox called "Social networking". We have no idea what we're doing and would welcome some help organizing the groups.

Many thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:09, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Sociology barnstar proposal

An older newsletter called for someone to create a barnstar for sociology. I'm not a graphics expert, but created a star for consideration. It's been uploaded to the mediawiki commons for use if anyone would like.

Sociology barnstar

Meclee (talk) 21:16, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, it is much appreciated. PS. Converted into a template, for easy copy-and-paste awarding process, and added to the new awards section of our wikiproject :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 05:53, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Glad you find it useful! Thanks for placing one on my page! Meclee (talk) 14:49, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Also, announced at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Wikipedia_Awards#New_Sociology_barnstar and proposed an inclusion in the main list of awards. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 17:42, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

WikiWomen's History Month

Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Sociology will have interest in putting on events related to women's roles and subjects related to sociology. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 19:10, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Occupy Wall Street reassessed to C class

Please comment on the talk page, or make a comment here.--Amadscientist (talk) 12:03, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

As no project associated with this article (including ours) has a B-class review checklist, I consider start, C and B classes almost meaningless, as there is no real standard for them. So downgrading an article from B to C in such a case, or any other shift, is not something I care about much. C-class is good for the article anyway, I see some unreferenced parts that would make me speed fail a B-class review anyway. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 17:42, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

ideas for diffusing Category:Sociology?

Hi, just wondering if anybody had any ideas on how we could diffuse Category:Sociology? Brad7777 (talk) 14:54, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Diffuse to whom and where, for what purpose? Is the goal to have more articles containing the category? Meclee (talk) 18:44, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

I think we should try to move some articles into more specific categories. How? Manually, of course. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 20:02, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

It would seem that sociology categories need some work, first. I should be bold and work on them. :) Meclee (talk) 03:06, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Apologies, Brad7777. Now that I have my mind on the topic, I realize you were referring to sub-categorizing. I am looking at it, but have no firm ideas in mind. Meclee (talk) 04:09, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

I've started new discussion on the Category talk page with a couple of suggestions. Meclee (talk) 04:33, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Recent increse in new editors interested in sociology?

Recently my watchlist have alerted me to a much higher than average number of new editors editing sociology articles. Just look at the history of sociology, where a number of edits from Feb 20 are by new editors, I am counting about 7; a similar number can be seen in in social stratification. Sociological theory has over a dozen! There is also activity at some other articles, social class got two or three new editors. What gives? Is there an educational project? Is ASA's Wikipedia Initiative getting some publicity? Any ideas? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 20:51, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

It is an education assignment, not coordinated with SUP/AMBASSADOR. More here. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 17:15, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Welcoming new users and inviting them to a wikiproject

You can use {{subst:User:Piotrus/w|Sociology}} to welcome new editors and invite them to our WikiProject at the same time. Change Sociology for other keyword to invite them to a different project. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 21:03, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Problem with Sociology portal

I just noticed a problem with Sociology portal. It has been reverted to a old version and the history page is missing edits after Dec 2010. I'm not even sure how that could happen. Meclee (talk) 16:41, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

If edits are truly missing, report it to WP:VPT or such. I have no ideal how this could've happen. Are you sure there are some edits missing? Could they have been edits to subarticles? This may be related to the new editors I mention above messing things up, I just fixed a layout issue introduced here. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 16:48, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Actually, I'm not positive about the history, but I seem to recall more recent discussion of portal edits than 12/2010. In any case, the page seems to be sorted-out, now, so your fixes must have been vital. Meclee (talk) 17:33, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

What about the Theorists?

As I go through this page, they talk a lot about the different types of theory in sociology, but not enough about who developed these theories. When it comes to someone as important as Karl Marx, or Robert Merton towards the sociological theories, and all the women that contributed as well,shouldn't you further want to explore what they have done? Also, the main article about criminology is only based on definitions of the different types of criminology, but does not relate to how criminology is based in sociology. What theorists studied criminology as a factor of sociology? If it's the main article shouldn't it have all these factor? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maarinaa19 (talkcontribs) 17:54, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

By "this page", do you mean this discussion page for our WikiProject, or are you referring to a specific article (sociological theory, perhaps)? Both it and the criminology article need much improvement, so you are welcome to improve them. I certainly agree with you that various issues are missing. Which is true for the 99.9% of the other few thousand sociology-themed articles we have. Welcome to the wiki :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 16:57, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

I think categories of the sociologists involved in the discourse of these theories should be addeed to the pages. These should be created if necessary, obviously only if these categories could be populated to atleast to some degree. I believe 10+ articles is sufficient Brad7777 (talk)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Occupy movement

Wikipedia:WikiProject Occupy movement

I have begun the procedure for beginning the project by making the proposal at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals. To add your name to support the proposal go to Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Occupy movement.--Amadscientist (talk) 23:11, 24 February 2012 (UTC)


A cleanup of subcats of sociology?

Some direct subcats of sociology spark a few thoughts, in particular: Conflicts, Crowds, Cultural assimilation, Dispute resolution, Labor, Living arrangements, Prejudices, Queue management, Race, Social change, Sociological genres of music, Stereotypes, Suicide, Total institutions and even Politics to some degree.

I'd like to see an article on popular sociology before we categorize it.
Yes i guess that would be best, i wouldn't know what should and should not be included Brad7777 (talk) 18:47, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
For the same token, Socioeconomics and Economic sociology have different articles explaining them, so they seem to be fine in having two different categories (which doesn't mean they are always used right). It may be helpful to add a definition of what a given category covers to the category page.
I Agree with adding definitions, but i am still usure why socioeconomics wouldnt be classed as an interdisciplinary branch of sociology, as it a study of society. Is it scientific? Brad7777 (talk) 18:47, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
I would say 'Socioeconomics' is a term used to describe a combination of social and economic factors (such as SES 'socioeconomic status'). 'Economic sociology' is more broadly used to describe an area of scientific study that uses economic methods. Meclee (talk) 21:15, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
I support creation of history categories.
Not sure I understand what you are proposing to do with C:Politics? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 17:56, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
The introduction to c:sociology says "Sociology is the study of human society, including social structure and social action. Sociologists study individuals in social settings, voluntary associations, professional bodies, groups, institutions, and organizations.

Sociologists are interested in our behavior as social beings; thus the sociological field of interest ranges from the analysis of short contacts between anonymous individuals on the street to the study of global social processes. Related Category:Social psychology" I was wondering if c:politics should be included here instead?Brad7777 (talk) 18:47, 28 February 2012 (UTC) The template used is {{Related category}} Brad7777 (talk) 19:40, 28 February 2012 (UTC)


I added Category:Applied sociology as a subcat of Category:Branches of sociology (interdisciplinary), and started adding pages and subcats to it. As to Category:Popular sociology, I don't have an objection, per se, but am not sure what we have that could be added to that. Some of the direct subcats you've listed are basic concepts covered in an intro course, but are also areas of research. I think the Category:Sociological terms could be expanded to include both terms and concepts, and subcatted there; as far as I know, concepts differ from terms only in the degree of compounding. I agree that Politics would be better as a related category as opposed to a direct subcat, how could that be accomplished? I would say that Socioeconomics is a concept, while Economic sociology is actually a 'branch' or 'field' of sociology (I'm not sure why those two things are separate subcategories).

Also, my understanding of 'diffusing' a cat is that one removes the direct cat to the parent cat and adds to the appropriate subcat. That doesn't give a good 'index' of articles, however, so am wondering if that is why most everything seems be a direct cat, sometimes in addition to a subcat. Meclee (talk) 18:07, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes i think so. However I think adding every sociological page to sociology should be avoided.Brad7777 (talk) 18:47, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Category:Sociology of culture is a direct subcat of sociology which i do not think is a bad idea, because it can be seen directly from c:sociology (it is not too deep in the subcats of sociology) and it helps in the diffusion as this contains more specific articles (I would say there is no point having an article in both sociology and sociology of culture). Could any other categorized branches of sociology be be considered "worthy" enough to be direct subcats of sociology. I would add applied sociology. Brad7777 (talk) 18:47, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
I have noticed there is some confusion between the terms social science, sociology and even social psychology when people have categorized an article into sociology Brad7777 (talk) 18:47, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

I am thinking we may need to 'map' this out before we begin. I'll put together something in this sandbox to get started. Meclee (talk) 19:40, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

I started a "map" based on the idea that we should have as few "top level" subcategories as possible and that most content should fall under one of these top subcategories. Others may not agree with that assumption, but it is a place to start. I can keep it in this sandbox for discussion or can copy it wherever might be best while we discuss. Meclee (talk) 21:09, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Is there some existing method to create an 'index' of articles, or does there need to be a Category:Sociology index to which all articles can be added?? Meclee (talk) 21:54, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm fairly sure adding Category:Sociology index to all articles would be overcategorization, Indexes are usually not categories but pages instead like for example Index of psychology articles. Brad7777 (talk) 22:04, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Do such indices need to be created by hand?? Meclee (talk) 22:09, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
I just found index of sociology articles, and unfortunately they do. Im not sure how it is possible to update this as the new articles are created, as the articles get categorized all over the place! Brad7777 (talk) 22:14, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
I think it was originally created by using a category Sociology topics, but Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus would know. Perhaps it would be overcategorization, but I think a top subtegory should be created to index. Meclee (talk) 22:18, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
As a hidden category, I think it is a brilliant idea, I'm not sure you would go about creating hidden categories though 22:58, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
WP:HIDDENCAT Brad7777 (talk) 23:01, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Indices are created by hand, and personally I don't like them; nor do I use them. To me they are simply lists of sociology topics with no grantee of completeness, their only use is if one wants to find a sociology-themed red link to write about. Obviously, the community finds them more useful, as they have been created for many topics and kept through deletion discussions, but I can only say I always voted to delete them. On another note, I am quite fond of the assessment categorization schemes, through Template:WikiProject Sociology; those are quite useful for various tools we have on our front page. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 23:32, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
The assessment categories are useful. I think a hidden Category:Sociology index would be useful, as well, so it has been created. I've created the Category:History_of_sociology and added the main History of sociology article to it. I will be busy for awhile, starting tomorrow, but can work much more on this later in March. I'll leave the sandbox "map" up for more comments in the meantime. I'm grateful to Brad7777talk for bringing this up. Meclee (talk) 01:22, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Doing Difference

Found this article that is of poor quality. Could an expert take a look at it is worth keeping Brad7777 (talk) 01:54, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

I'd AFD this. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 05:33, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Inequality within immigrant families (United States)

I plan to write an article on the topic of "User:Naomi FK/Inequality within Immigrant Families (United States)." Wikipedia:WikiProject Sociology's stated purpose is to provide support for members interested in improving coverage of sociology on Wikipedia. There is a large body of sociology research in the areas of family, inequality, and immigration, which I will draw upon heavily when writing my article. I did a search and can find no existing Wikipedia entries that specifically cover either inequality within the family or the family dynamics of immigrants. Although there is extensive literature on many facets of social inequality, current Wikipedia articles tend to focus on inequalities between larger societal groups such as those based on socioeconomic status, gender, and race. When measuring inequalities in factors such as income and education, the family is often taken as a homogenous unit in which resources are distributed equally. Many scholars have pointed out that such an assumption is problematic since inequalities often exist within the family. I wish to bring these inequalities to light, specifically focusing on the unique disparities that are often generated through the immigration process. I would appreciate any feedback and look forward to contributing to this project. Naomi FK (talk) 08:25, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Welcome to WikiProject sociology!! Look forward to your contributions. One question: Could the material you reference be worked as a sub-topic into the existing article on Social inequality, which could use expansion? Meclee (talk) 20:14, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
(edit conflict) The subject you outline is one of many that need to be covered in Wikipedia, an excellent example of something that has been researched, but is not well popularized. At this point I can just point out that your draft should be using lower case letters in it's title. I'd also recommend you move your work from the sandbox to the main article space as soon as it is ready for a T:TDYK front page feature (so, beyond stub and referenced). Let me know if you need any assistance. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 04:36, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Revision and Expansion of "Prenatal Care"

I am revising and expanding the Prenatal Care Wikipedia article. The current Wikipedia page is limited to discussing only the issue of prenatal care in relation to race and ethnicity while glancing over the role that socioeconomic plays in the quality and accessibility of prenatal care services. The page is listed as an article in need of cleanup in order to meet Wikipedia's quality standards. My revisions will include reformatting this article to meet Wikipedia's quality standards. My expansion of the article will include a new subtopic entitled "Prenatal Care and Accessibility." This subtopic will expand on the issue of the accessibility of prenatal care services (issues over both lack of knowledge, and availability of prenatal care services), focusing on low-socioeconomic areas. Accessibility of prenatal care services has a considerable impact on lives of women which as a result, will affect the lives of their families and community. The article is currently assigned to WP Medicine. Since health plays an important role in the lives of women which translates into the lives of those surrounding them (medical sociology), I believe that this Wikipedia article falls under WikiProject Sociology as well.

I hope to spread knowledge of the social issues regarding health care services- specifically prenatal care and its relation to low-socioeconomic areas.

I have gathered academic resources which I would use to expand the article. I was wondering if any WikiProject Sociology members have further resources that could possibly assist in my revisions and expansion. Any feedback over this particular page is greatly appreciated. Allyssa.abacan (talk) 20:47, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Socioeconomic aspects would be welcome in this article; if they are added please feel free to add {{WikiProject Sociology}} scope banner to its talk. We can certainly try to review it when it is expanded, through I for one know little regarding sociology of health. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 04:39, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Revision and Expansion of "Elderly Care"

I'm part of a class at Rice University, in the Poverty, Justice & Human Capabilities minor program, that focuses on issues of global inequality. One of note that has not received much traffic on Wikipedia (likely because it is largely ignored in the US and simply because the article is not done in-depth) is Elderly Care. I plan to spend the next several weeks expanding this article in relation to a few WikiProjects: WP:MED, WP:Economics and WP:SOCIOLOGY, of course. Elderly care certainly falls under the category of Sociology. Treatment of our parents and grandparents, who once played a pivotal role in society, is so relevant and important, as they continue to remain a part of the world we live in. Today's treatment of the elderly, in both developed and developing societies, is incredibly different, based on social culture, medical technology awareness and economic feasibility. I'm looking forward to my research and learning more about how both ever-changing and incredibly traditional societies treat their elderly.

My goal is to increase the web's awareness of global elderly care. Through my research, I want to show people how other nations, both developed and developing, treat their older members of society. I want to stress that because a country is developing does not mean it treats its elderly poorly.

Especially since this is my first contribution to Wikipedia, I would love any and all feedback from fellow WikiProject Sociology members and any other members of the Wikipedia community. If you know anything about Geriatrics professionally or recreationally, I would love to hear from you. Also, if you can give me tips on how to stay consistent with writing format of Wikipedia entries, I would greatly accept!

Ellyhutch (talk) 18:27, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Certainly the aging population is of interest to sociology. Let us know how we can be of assistance. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 04:40, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Revision and Expansion of: Human trafficking in the United States

I plan on doing major edits to the page, Human trafficking in the United States . The page is currently written based primarily using newspapers as citations on trafficking that occurs in the United States. I plan replacing this information with scholarly research surrounding current and past debates about human trafficking in the United States. In discussing Human Trafficking, I hope to create a better definition of those being trafficked as they are presented in the scholarly works. In addition, I hope to elaborate on the different types of current legislation with regard to human trafficking and the debates surrounding the implementation of such legislation. I would appreciate any feedback about my proposed revisions. Specifically, please feel free to comment about any part of this topic you feel I might be missing, or comment on my user page if you would like hear about my revisions in more detail.

Cyoung530 (talk) 23:38, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan. Improve the quality of references, add to content. Let us know if we could be of any help. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 04:41, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Inclusion of Occupational Segregation in WP:Sociology

I am planning on making substantial additions to the "Occupational segregation" article as part of an assignment for my class on Poverty, Gender, and Development at Rice University. Occupational Segregation is a vital topic in economics because it results in numerous negative consequences not only for women, but also for families as units and for society as a whole. For those WIkipedians unfamiliar with the term Occupational Segregation, a bit of an explanation might be in order. Horizontal Occupational Segregation refers to segregation between occupations, and it allows for professions that consist of a majority of women to be remain both lower in status and lower in pay than other occupations. Vertical Occupational Segregation, in some cases known as ghettoization, refers to the relegation of women to the worse jobs within a given occupation. The "glass ceiling" that women face in their attempts to rise up a hierarchy and a pay scale is an example of vertical segregation. I plan on greatly expanding the "Types" and "Causes" sections of the article. In addition, I plan on adding a "Consequences" section and a "Social Policy Aimed at Eliminating Occupational Segregation" sections. I must admit, however, that my understanding of economics is somewhat rudimentary, and I would really appreciate any assistance that anyone might be able to give me on the specific economic concepts relevant to occupational segregation. I also joined WP:Economics for help on that specific issue. Any and all ideas/ suggestions/ feedback are welcome.

K Gagalis (talkcontribs) 11:00, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

That seems well thought out. Good luck! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 04:27, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Proposal for Social Determinants of Health in Poverty

I am a new user of Wikipedia, and am contributing an article about health outcomes in society and social differences in healthcare for a class at Rice University, where I am a pre-med student. Through my studies in the class “Poverty, Gender, and Human Development” and Rice University, and my many previous learning experiences with sociology, healthcare, and the social safety net, I have gained knowledge about differential health outcomes within poor populations. Therefore, I plan to create a new article entitled Social Determinants of Health in Poverty , and make this a part of WP:SOCIOLOGY as well as other Wikiprojects.

This article should contribute to the expansion of understanding of differences in health outcomes between the general population and impoverished populations, as well as within impoverished populations, contributing a vital aspect to understanding and analyzing social health outcomes. I have compiled an extensive list of credible resources from academic journals, books, and non-profit organization reports, and plan on using this information to build a credible entry. However, I will face difficulty in compiling all this information into an extensive but concise presentation that distinguishes impoverished populations and the differences between them precisely. Therefore, I would appreciate feedback throughout the development and writing of my article, as I have limited Wikipedia entry experience.

This article should contribute to this Wikiproject because it provides better understanding the determinants of health in various populations in society, and contributes to a social understanding of the determining factors of health. I would appreciate any suggestions on how to use this article to best contribute to this Wikiproject.


lbockhorn (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:37, 9 March 2012 (UTC).

A bit challenging subject for encyclopedia due to its narrow focus, but it seems encyclopedic enough. Good luck, and remember that Wikipedia's MoS prefers to reduce capitalization, so your article should be under Social determinants of health in poverty. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 04:30, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Expansion of Mommy track article

I am planning on significantly expanding the current Mommy track stub on Wikipedia as part of my Poverty, Justice, and Human Capabilities course. This stub is already listed as a part of WP:SOCIOLOGY and rated as mid-importance, and I am also planning on adding it to WP:GENDER STUDIES.

As the idea of a mommy track and opting out have become more common, particularly in American society, it seems that the article is in need of expansion in order to provide a better overview of the subject as well as a comprehensive examination of the effect of motherhood on women's work opportunities. I will be examining differences in women's wage earnings over the course of a lifetime, the costs of childbearing in different fields, and wage gaps for mothers. I would appreciate any assistance or ideas for better expanding the article and how to best contribute to this Wikiproject.

Allisonraven (talk) 20:03, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan. Good luck! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 04:31, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


Welcome

Welcome to all the class project editors! Looking forward to your contributions! Meclee (talk) 20:58, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! It's so nice to be welcomed here. I'm beginning to love participating in this community. I can see that we class project editors are all very excited and nervous to be working on these projects. I, for one, would love any/all feedback on my project on Structuration theory. Please let me know if you have any reactions/commments/suggestions/questions on the Talk page! Thank you for your kind words. Mjscheer (talk) 17:36, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Proposal to Edit the Child Laundering stub

I am a student at Rice University studying Poverty, Justice, and Human Capabilities. I am planning to editing and expanding the stub for Child Laundering. It is not currently listed as a stub under WP:SOCIOLOGY but I am proposing that it be considered for inclusion. Child Laundering could be best described as using money, deceit, or force to obtain young children, and forging new documents to legitimize these "orphans", and are taken overseas to wealthy Western countries. Due to the thousands of dollars in fees that prospective adoptive parents are willing to pay, the profits are enough for those who are willing to take advantage of the system. This is a major issue within the system of intercountry adoptions and is a subject that should be expanded upon. If any users of this Wikiproject have any ideas or opinions about how I might best undertake editing this stub and contribute to this stub , I would appreciate the help and advice.

ChloeCBlaskiewicz (talk) 01:08, 10 March 2012 (UTC)ChloeCBlaskiewicz

Sure, that topic seems relevant to sociology, please do add it to our project scope. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 16:25, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Outline of society

New addition to Portal:Contents/Outlines.

Currently under construction.

What's missing? The Transhumanist 07:53, 15 March 2012 (UTC) :Thank you! The portal is in need of work! Specifically, upgrade the ways in which nominations for 'Selected article', 'Selected biography', 'Did you know...", 'Sociology news', and 'Selected quote' can be submitted and fed into the Portal template. This task is far beyond my capabilities and the time I have for learning such things! Meclee (talk) Sorry, I realized my comment was not germane to the issue. I'll comment on the outline talk page. Thanks for the notificiation. Meclee (talk) 14:19, 22 March 2012 (UTC)


Major edits to Structuration theory

Please take a look at Structuration theory, and add your comments to the Talk page! I would love to discuss some of the major edits that I have made in the past few days. The theory has been listed as "High importance," so I want to make sure that the changes I've made reflect the accuracy of the content! Mjscheer (talk) 17:00, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Comments on Structuration theory welcomed!

Hello! My name is MJ, and I have made significant changes to the Structuration theory page. The article is listed as of "High Importance," so I want to make sure that the content and structure of the page is accurate, readable, useful, and comprehensive. I am looking for contributions and comments on some of the changes I have made, and I would appreciate your comments and contributions! Any suggestions, whether from experts or general readers, is gladly received! Please join me on the Structuration Talk page! Mjscheer (talk) 19:54, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

I have now posted my work so far on this article, Inequality within immigrant families (United States). I still need to flesh out some of the sections and to incorporate more sources. Naomi FK (talk) 21:35, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Diffusion of category Sociology

A diffusion of Category:Sociology has been completed. Details can be found here. Also, a page Sociology category tree was created to facilitate browsing of subcategories. Any disputed category may be discussed in accordance with WP:CFD.

A (hidden) administrative category has been created Category:Sociology index to facilitate updating of articles such as Index of sociology articles, List of sociologists, and Outline of sociology. At the moment, only articles transcluding the Template:Sociology have been added, for a total 270 articles. I am seeking comments on whether or not all articles including Template:WikiProject Sociology on their talk page (current count: 2920) should be added to the index (this will take some time to complete). Thanks in advance for comments. Meclee (talk) 15:58, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Free HighBeam accounts

The internet research database HighBeam Research has 1000 free accounts available. HighBeam has full versions of tens of millions of newspaper articles and journals and should be a big help in adding reliable sources--especially older and paywalled ones--into the encyclopedia. Sign-ups require a 1-year old account with 1000 edits on any Wikipedia. Here's the link to the project page: Wikipedia:HighBeam (account sign-ups are linked in the box on the right). Feel free to sign up to help improve your work on this project's articles. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 22:14, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:HighBeam

Wikipedia:HighBeam describes a limited opportunity for Wikipedia editors to have access to HighBeam Research.
Wavelength (talk) 16:02, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Second Generation Immigrants in the United States

I am creating a new Wikipedia article titled “Second Generation Immigrants in the United States.” As the population of US citizens with at least one foreign born parent increases, the study of second generation immigrants is becoming a hot topic in sociological research. I plan to focus a large portion of this article on theories of immigrant assimilation. More specifically, I plan on focusing on the well researched theory of segmented assimilation and its concept of downward assimilation for the children of low skilled immigrants. I will also include criticism to the theory of segmented assimilation via the inclusion of case studies that yielded contradicting results. In addition, I will have multiple sections to address some unique assimilation characteristics of some of the ethnic and racial groups that make up the second generation immigrant population in the United States. I will give attention to the groups that hold the largest percentages of the second immigrant population, which includes Hispanics and Asian Americans. The process by which second generation immigrants assimilate into society is important for sociological research and ethnic studies, which ties my article to this Wikiproject. Are there any other immigrant assimilation theories that I should shed light on in my article? I would greatly appreciate any suggestions you may have. Thank you. Marymorales291 (talk) 04:45, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Just a note that the title should be lowercase per Wikipedia's MoS, so Second generation immigrants in the United States. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 20:43, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for this! I fixed the title of the page. The article is now up. Please look at Second generation immigrants in the United States. Feel free to post any suggestions or ideas for revisions in the talk page. Thank you. Marymorales291 (talk) 03:45, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Addition of Malnutrition to WP:Sociology

I am an undergraduate pre-medical student at Rice University, and through my studies and experiences I have become passionate about health issues pertaining to unequal access to resources. I am excited to revise the malnutrition page in Wikipedia, which is part of WP:MED. I also propose to add the article to WP:SOCIOLOGY. Many of the causes and effects of malnutrition are social issues that should be brought to attention. While researching malnutrition, I came across a few conflicting definitions which made it difficult to understand exactly what malnutrition is. Here is UNICEF's definition:

Malnutrition is a broad term commonly used as an alternative to undernutrition but technically it also refers to overnutrition. People are malnourished if their diet does not provide adequate calories and protein for growth and maintenance or they are unable to fully utilize the food they eat due to illness (undernutrition). They are also malnourished if they consume too many calories (overnutrition).

(http://www.unicef.org/progressforchildren/2006n4/malnutritiondefinition.html). Based on this understanding, the current article has an incorrect definition and focus. It discusses deficiencies of nutrients (vitamins and minerals) in length. I propose to correct this faulty information and refocus the article on the actual definition. Since this will involve deleting certain parts of the article, I would appreciate feedback and critique throughout the process. I would also like the article to include more information on the social causes and effects of malnutrition.

As my contribution is for a “Poverty, Gender, and Development” course, I will be adding a section on gender issues relating to malnutrition. Also, people (especially women) with low socioeconomic standing are disproportionately affected by malnutrition. I seek to bring up more social issues surrounding the causes and effects of malnutrition, and plan on adding the article to WP:Economics to encourage more collaboration between different groups on this issue. I see access to sufficient nutrition as a basic human right, so I have also proposed to add the article to WP:HUMANRIGHTS.

Through my research I have sought well-founded arguments and credible research, but I am seeking feedback and input on the most crucial issues pertaining to nutrition as a human right. Through this process, I seek to raise awareness of the causes and effects of malnutrition, and advocate thinking on possible solutions and policy changes that could diminish the extent of malnutrition. Khatchell (talk) 22:30, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

That seems well thought out. Good luck! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 04:27, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Khatchell (talk! I've added the WP-Sociology tag and given the article a B rating, although it should probably be nominated for GA status. Meclee (talk) 06:42, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Racial Diversity in the U.S. Classroom

I am planning to expand the stub article Diversity in the classroom as part of an assignment for my Poverty, Justice, and Human Capabilities course at Rice University. Specifically, I would like to focus on racial diversity in U.S. classrooms. I feel the page is relevant to the Sociology WikiProject because my sources will primarily be sociological studies and theories and diversity in the classroom is a sociological issue. In the article, I would like to define racial diversity in the classroom, cite research on its effects and social implications, and list and explain current policy on racial diversity in schools in America. My sources will include Nussbaum’s Creating Capabilities: The Human Development Approach, the UN’s Millennium Development Goals, Thomas Shapiro’s The Hidden Cost of Being African American, the Journal of Diversity in Higher Education, and other textbooks and sociological journals. By becoming a member of this WikiProject, I hope to help identify, edit, and expand articles on Sociology. Please let me know if you have any comments, questions, concerns, or suggestions. You can place them here or on the Diversity in the Classroom/my talk pages. Thanks,Weatherby551 (talk) 05:25, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Sounds like a good plan. Let us know if you have any questions. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 16:26, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, Weatherby551! I've updated to: WikiProject Sociology|class=C |importance=Mid Meclee (talk) 06:51, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Edits to the "Diversity in the Classroom" page

Amanda, apparently I made the same bad mistake here as I did in Chloe's article and actually implemented the changes I initially suggested. There's no use in undoing them, but consider it huge favor. Nevertheless, here were general suggestions that I followed and that you should, too:

  1. You need a Reference and/or footnotes list. Just follow the generous example I provided you with and you should be fine. I noticed you had listed the citation within the text when I was in edit mode, but due to technical errors, they were not displaying properly. Fix this.
  2. You're completely lacking a "See also" section. You need to include at least a handful of links to related pages so that your page has a much larger chance of generating traffic. Possible page links could be included towards Race, Gender, Native American, African America, Jim Crow....pages like these will do fine.
  3. Your "Americanization School" section could use some expansion. I feel that the concept of the assimilation-induced environment is important and deserves more information. List some of its negative effects on the minority children who were enrolled into them. Maybe even a quote or something from a notable figure who advocated such schools

I hope these suggestions get the ideas flowing, and I hope the rest of the Wiki Commmunity here can may lend a helping hand as well. Good luck!!!

128.42.81.84 (talk) 06:52, 9 April 2012 (UTC)J hernan26

I really like what you have done with the article. It occurred to me, though, that this is not an issue that is confined to the U.S. So I've expanded the lead to include other countries. Of course, this will require expansion of the article as well. Usually an international perspective is encouraged in articles. I'm not married to the idea, so I would be interested in your comments on the article talk page. Sunray (talk) 08:18, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi Sunray! Thank you for your comments! I definitely agree that this is not an issue confined to the U.S. I was simply focusing on the U.S. for the sake of my class assignment because it would be impossible to cover every aspect of every type of diversity in each country's school system in the time I have. I was hoping my work on racial diversity in U.S. schools could either become a sub-page of a broader Diversity in the Classroom page or could be a separate page that is linked with articles about other countries and types of diversity. Do you have any advice about making that more clear or perhaps changing the location of the article/how it relates to other articles? While I will be happy to help expand the article to give it an international scope, I don't think I can do so for my course assignment. Thanks for your comments! By the way, if you're interested, the course page, which describes the assignment, can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:United_States_Education_Program/Courses/Poverty,_Justice,_and_Human_Capabilities_(Kim_Hoang)#Article_banners

Weatherby551 (talk) 00:51, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Notice of GA review: Structuration

Previously placed on-hold for some additional edits, the article Structuration is back on Good Article review for an additional seven days. Thanks in advance for comments. Meclee (talk) 23:56, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

UPDATE: Thanks to those who commented. The article has been listed as GA. Meclee (talk) 22:17, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Request for comments at Occupational segregation

I have recently made substantial edits to the Occupational Segregation article. I would appreciate any input or feedback on my edits. Thank you! K_Gagalis 168.7.239.69 (talk) 03:58, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Racial Wealth Gap in the United States

I have recently made substantial edits on the Racial Inequality in the United States page within the Racial Wealth Gap and Housing sections. Because racial inequalities are an important issue within sociology, I thought it would be of interest to WikiProject Sociology; this topic is also linked and related to the Racial wage gap in the United States, a topic that has gotten feedback on this page. All of my sources are from academic/professional journals or books and government reports. My edits have made Racial Wealth Gap section much more expansive. I have also added links to this page from other pages that discussed economic inequality in the United States under the sections that referred to racial inequities. I have also added several links to Wikipedia pages that explain and clarify much of the information. If you are interested, please check out the edited page and give feedback about what you think is missing in the sections that relate to the U.S. racial wealth gap. I am especially interested in any ideas you may have about sociological explanations for this gap.Kristianedosomwan5 (talk) 00:05, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Could you link which article you are discussing? The topic of this section does not match the name of the article you discuss in the first sentence... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 20:42, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Advice for Human trafficking in the United States

Currently on the Human trafficking in the United States article there is a section in the history that discusses instances of child selling in the United States. I don't believe that this information is appropriate for this article because child selling does not mean that the children were sold for the purpose of exploitation; whereas, trafficking does imply exploitation. I was wondering if anybody knew of a better place for this information. If not, my plan is to remove it from the Human trafficking in the United States article, but I was trying to find a suitable place for it before I took such action. Cyoung530 (talk) 02:15, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

While baby selling is a form of trafficking and does involve exploitation of the child and, often, its birth parent(s), I understand your concern. It may be that the baby selling information could be worked into Adoption_in_the_United_States. Meclee (talk) 13:59, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

RfC at Correlates of crime

The input of members of this project is requested for and RfC about the title of the article Causes and correlates of crime/Correlates of crime. The question is whether that article should be called "Causes and Correlates of Crime" (and therefore treat statistical correlations and theories of causality together) or just be called "Correlates of Crime" (which better describes the current content of the article that does not provide any information at all about criminological theories of crime causation). Or should it have a different title all together?·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 21:20, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Bathroom sex

Does this article under project scope? --SupernovaExplosion Talk 04:46, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Weakly, if anything, I think this would fall under WP Anthropology. Anyway, the article is tagged for WP Sexuality which is the most appropriate, I think. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 20:55, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Question

What is the general standpoint on the use of the "-oid" terms in articles describing modern peoples? I am currently engaged in a dispute with a Slovene IP at Tatars, who would like to include information regarding the "North" and "South Caucasoid" (1 result for each N S on JSTOR), "Mongoloid", and "Lapponoid" (13 results) faces of the group. It is my understanding that most experts outside of forensic anthropology have discarded such terminology; as such, it should not be used in articles. I removed the information as being grossly outdated and borderline racist, but the IP has been persistent in re-adding it, with the near-meaningless statement of "re-adding anthropology facts" being the only reasoning given. I will admit up-front that I have been curt and caustic in my minimal dealings with this user; I personally regard such terms as discredited trash and have low tolerance for their serious use. A third-party opinion from someone here would be appreciated. (I have posted this to all Wikiprojects listed at Talk:Race (classification of humans) to generate more discussion) ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 01:39, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Looking forhelpin logging into a. Account@ passwords being wrong. Them telling me the month of birth is wrong and the day.He works on Google he must have an idea what is wrong.we've head several talks together..he's very smart and sows some compassio

I know every thing is right.I have spent the pass 2 weeks doing nothing but signing Facebook and apple accounts. I can' t get an I'd. They approve the name and pasSword but when I turn right around and login the same info it comes up wrong. Never seen this info, Keep you records straight. I right down every thing.ho do I get those on my key board?I don' understand sand box — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.68.247.101 (talk) 23:38, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Try these: Wikipedia:Help_desk Wikipedia:Request_an_account Wikipedia:About the Sandbox. Meclee (talk) 14:12, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Globalization Project Proposal

Hi WikiProject Sociology! I'm writing to inform you of my interest in starting a group that works on articles about globalization, in order to improve coverage of globalization on Wikipedia. Your group has banners on some of the articles that are key to this discussion, and I believe many perspectives and disciplines needs to come together if we're going to get it right. If you would consider supporting such a project, would you please swing by the Globalization Project Proposal and expressing that interest? Thanks so very much! LizFlash (talk) 17:18, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Related - The article Globalization has undergone major re-structuring. WikiProject Sociology members are invited to review and comment on the article and add relevant missing information or sections of interest. Meclee (talk) 14:26, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

The Gender identity and Sexual identity articles

These articles are a mess, and the way that "sexual identity" is being used is WP:OR (somewhat anyway). Basically, help is needed to sort this out. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject LGBT studies#Sexual identity for the current discussion. Flyer22 (talk) 02:30, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Marc Drillech for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Marc Drillech is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marc Drillech until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. 80.13.85.217 (talk) 18:14, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Mechanism as sociological concept

Most of article about mechanism (sociology) has been taken from "What is anaylitical sociology all about? An introductory essay" in The Oxford Handbook of Analytical Sociology (Peter Hedström and Peter Bearman 2009). The chapter makes it clear that the concepts mechanism and mechanism-based explanation "have more to do with philosophy of science than with sociology proper". Then is it possible to talk about "mechanism" as a sociological concept? The accuracy of the article's title seems disputable to me. --Pablo.ea.92 (talk) 02:43, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

The mechanism (sociology)article is in need of improvement. I've tagged it as having multiple issues, removed some unsourced statements, and linked it to Mechanism_(philosophy). Previous editors the article seem unaware of the 'mechanistic'|'organic' analytic distinction that dates back to at least Aristotle and is a major underpinning of several sociological theories. The article is categorized as 'sociological terminology', so may warrant existence, though I would not object were it to be tagged AfD. Meclee (talk) 16:34, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Parentocracy

Parentocracy - is this a real thing? Should it have its own article? ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 22:31, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I am seeing 842 hits for that term in Google Books. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:38, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Selena Gomez

Okay we are going to jabber our mouths about the people that are rude. Especially to celeberties. Like Selena Gomez. You do not have to hate her because Justin Bieber is gay. Because that is RUMORS. I know you all are jelous but do not take it out on her. She wants to live a good life not a horrible one like you haters of Selena Gomez. It is RUDE. We all know you want to be like her. Trust me we all have. Do not denie it because it is true. Selena is innocent So is Beiber but all you guys can go to jail because you have been threatining her. Just to wake up in the morning to see on videos of Selena crying how you guys are saying all that stuff. She cries about having fans that love her. She is a nice kid just like all of us even the Grown ups are kids somehow. She is just a loving and caring, genorous soon to be mom. And if you do kill her think about her fans. Selena's Friends and family. It would even depress Bieber really bad. Just think about howmany people you would be letting down. It is cruel and unbeleivable.you guys are idiots she did not do anything wrong she is in love so what i know how she feels people are cruel. I like justin but i thank selena and him are cute together so leave them alone let them start a family in peace thats how i would want it face it girls justin will never date you hes happy and he's going to be a dad so grow up there are other people that you can bug her. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.138.247.178 (talk) 07:09, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

As insightful as this is, Wikipedia is not a forum for these discussions.—Zujine|talk 06:30, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Sociopedia

[2]. My thoughts are: it's like Nupedia, but worse (limited access). And even the better Citizendium has floundered. Stoll, we can probably use it as a source to improve a few article, but does anyone here have ISA membership? PS. This is a SAGE-ISA project; there is also a Blackwell project that has been out there for several years, the Encyclopedia of Sociology Online ([3]), similarly a paywalled project. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:59, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Public sociology

Hello, I would like to request reviews of the Public sociology article. It's a challenging but important topic. Challenging because there are some strong perspectives on it; important for a variety of reasons, including that it has been a major area of debate and/or campaigning within sociology (as well as other social sciences) for some time. My own sense is that the article can be substantially improved. I'd like to hear other views & suggestions how best to do that. Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 05:50, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

I suggest you list it at Wikipedia:Peer review. I'll be sure to comment, it is an interesting subject. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:14, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done; thanks for the suggestion, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 09:51, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Peer review for the article, Public sociology, is now underway. If you'd like to contribute to improving that article, please review it, noting suggestions for improvement; then go to Peer review (Public sociology), click on the 'Edit' link and record your comments. Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 18:58, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Auto-archiving this talk page?

Would there be an interest in auto-archiving this talk page, e.g. via User:MiszaBot II? Seems like it has a tendency to fill up... Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 09:59, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Agree, this is an excellent idea. Perhaps a period of 180 days? Meclee (talk) 16:21, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:41, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
We could start with 180 days & ratchet down as needed. Some comments currently on this page go back years, but it's all mixed up, so not easy to tell. DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 18:35, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done I have manually archived (Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Sociology/Archive_7 posts prior to Jan 2012 through last archive date. Also added User:MiszaBot II header set at 180 days (hopefully, syntax is correct). Meclee (talk) 19:31, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
Great, much better now. Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 07:15, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Look at this article...!

Closed community is the cream of the crop when it comes to stubs. 68.173.113.106 (talk) 18:12, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done The article now has been nominated for deletion. Meclee (talk) 19:49, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

New WikiProject Globalization

Wikipedia:WikiProject_Globalization is a new project to improve Wikipedia's coverage of aspects of Globalization and the organization of information and articles on this topic. This page and its subpages contain their suggestions and various resources; it is hoped that this project will help to focus the efforts of other Wikipedians interested in the topic. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks. Meclee (talk) 18:46, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Closed community

This AfD could use more comments. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:19, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Please help improve Birth control

Birth control is easy and very important to improve. Please see Talk:Birth control#Reviews on the topic in the Lancet this month through Talk:Birth control#Comparison. 75.166.200.250 (talk) 23:28, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

New articles trend

New sociology articles from our feed

The data can be refined (email me if you want it), but I see a declining trend, from about 12 to about 9. Could be a seasonal variation, but in either case, at the first year or so of the ASA Wikipedia Initiative seems to have produced no visible results. We will see if the promotion it got at the Meeting and booth will help. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:16, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Mayer Zald

Perhaps somebody here would like to comment on this a bit stalled DYK nom. Or expand the article further, before it hits the Main Page? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:35, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Categories for discussion

Here is a discussion regarding renaming Category:Women foo to Category:Female foo. Thank you. Ncboy2010 (talk) 11:30, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Melvin Tumin

People may be interested to know that there is now an article on Melvin Tumin. As far as I can tell he was quite important in terms of sociology... although Talk:Melvin Tumin does not have a tag from this wikiProject.

I am not a member of this wikiProject so I won't add the tag... but someone else may want to.

Members of this wikiProject may also be interested in helping to expand the article.

Thanks.

Yaris678 (talk) 15:21, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Tagged, thanks! DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 16:12, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the update. For future reference, you are more than welcome to add tags for our projects and any others, I am not aware of any WikiProject that restricts tag adding to members only. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:16, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. It wasn't so much that I thought I wasn't allowed. More just in case I had missed something. Yaris678 (talk) 17:25, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Request for Comment: Steeler Nation Criticism

A question on use of (in some views) "ethnic"/"racial" "slurs". Please feel free to read & comment here. Thank you. Marketdiamond (talk) 19:09, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Expatriate, Emigrant and people "of descent" categories

I am sure this is not the first time this question has come up here, but does this project claim any sort of oversight on categories such as Category:American expatriates in Sweden, Category:People of Moroccan descent and Category:Italian emigrants to Brazil? I ask because I am looking for existing standards on these categories. I am mostly an editor for the various basketball projects, and players commonly move across borders so these types of categories are use a lot. Lately I have noticed some category heirarchy that doesn't make sense to me. For example, in the case of the American expatriates in Sweden category, it is a sub-category of Category:Swedish people of American descent. That does not seem correct to me - an American expatriate by definition is not a "Swedish person." This structure seems to exist for many of these categories. My other question is about categories like "People of Moroccan descent." What has prompted me to ask for clarity is that this category has caused a minor edit war on Mike Flynn (basketball). This is the case of an American citizen born to American parents in Casablanca. I would think he wouldn't qualify for "of Moroccan descent" just because he happened to be born there, but would prefer to follow an existing standard and be able to put this to rest. Can anyone here help me? Am I in the right place to bring these things? I also posed this to Wikiproject International Relations. Rikster2 (talk) 13:54, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Ethnic groups may be better, if it is active. I agree this is an issue to discuss, and I think it may better for a wider community discussion somewhere at VP. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:39, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

US pro-life and right-to-life movements: distinct, same thing?

As part of working on User:Chaos5023/Abortion advocacy movement coverage, I would like some feedback from people who consider themselves reasonably expert on the history of anti-abortion political advocacy in the United States. Specifically, I have encountered assertions that the pro-life movement and right-to-life movement are meaningfully distinct entities, and also assertions that they're the same thing. Can anybody provide me with useful insight into the question of which is the case -- or even, if I may hope, references to support for either position in reliable sources? —chaos5023 (talk) 20:20, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Infant mortality Page (expansion and revisions)

My name is Allyssa Abacan, a student from Rice University. Last semester I revised Wiki's page on Prenatal Care in the United States. This semester, I am working towards revising and expanding Wiki's page on infant mortality. Currently, the page does not give a holistic approach in understanding infant mortality and issues leading causing such a disparity (differences in resources and outcomes). This is a big social issue since there are medical resources out there to help alleviate this problem, but social constructs prevent these resources from being available to all.

I will be focusing on Southeast Asian countries since disparities can be seen on a bigger level (ex. Singapore and the Philippines). I will narrow down my focus to elaborate on causes (dengue fever, polio, etc) and medical infrastructure within each South East Nation I talk about. I will mainly focus on the top 5 causes of infant mortality. Information on medical infrastructure would hopefully allow readers to gain an understanding of how political structure can influence infant mortality. Also, I plan on writing about successful and failed political policies that aim(ed) to ameliorate infant mortality. Hopefully this will allow readers to grasp the root causes for high infant mortality in various countries that have varying SES status. Right now, the article is not holistically explaining infant mortality.

During my research, I will garner more academically viable resources to make this article more reliable.

If there are suggestions in how to go about doing this it will be greatly appreciated.

Allyssa.abacan (talk) 02:32, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

The related USEP course page is Wikipedia:USEP/Courses/Poverty, Justice, and Human Capabilities (Kimberly Hoang and Diana Strassmann). I've removed the template is categorizes pages it is on as student assignments, and this WikiProject discussion page is not it. Alyssa, feel free to link your article and/or draft here, and ask for more input. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 18:53, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Interface: a journal for and about social movements (2nd nomination)

Please note a deletion discussion in our field. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:43, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage live

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage is now a live RFC. It is now in its structure phase, where its arguments and options are refined before opinions are registered. Please participate! —chaos5023 (talk) 03:47, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Racial achievement gap in the United States

I am going to revise the Wikipedia article “Racial achievement gap in the United States”. Even though education is a basic right to all citizens in the United States, throughout the years research and data has shown large differences in success rates between students within the educational system. The achievement gap is also important factor in breaking the cycle of poverty. Research shows that poverty is strongly related to low academic achievement. Growing up in poverty often means inadequate health care, poor nutrition, and fewer resources in the home, which are all factors known to lower school performance. This then leads to higher drop out rates, low-wage jobs, and unemployment; thus perpetuating the cycle of poverty. However, education can help break the cycle of poverty. Success in education plays a major role in increasing employment rates, lowering poverty rates, preventing crime, and decreasing violence. Understanding and having information about the racial achievement gap could help to clarify root causes and methods that are helping to either mitigate of perpetuate the achievement gap. I plan to draw on many sociological articles and studies regarding the racial achievement gap and results of the attempts to narrow the achievement gap. This includes works from Ruth Turley and Adam Gamoran, James Ainsworth, Abhijit V. Banerjee and Esther Duflo, Cynthia Prince, and the Society for Research on Educational Effectiveness (SREE). I would appreciate any comments or feedback.

Mmcolson (talk) 04:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

More on the Racial Achievement Gap in the United States

Besides being rated poorly by Wikipedia standards while also missing substantial amounts of important information, the importance of the subject matter in the “Racial Achievement Gap in the United States” article merit its expansion. I believe racial inequality – specifically educational racial inequality – to be an important American social issue. For decades, White and Asian American students have systematically outperformed Black and Hispanic students. Why is this the case? What factors contribute to this gap? What interventions effectively close the gap? Should interventions even be pursued? The answers to these questions are not only important for understanding educational achievement gains. Specifically, the racial achievement gap ultimately affects what type of jobs students pursue, how much money they earn, and whether or not they become productive citizens contributing to the American and global economies. Analyzing and understanding the racial achievement gap allows administrators and policy makers to effectively evaluate public school systems. Martha Nussbaum’s (2011) Capabilities Approach includes “asking not just about the total or average well-being but about the opportunities available to each person”(Nussbaum 2011:18). Thus, one must question and investigate whether or not the lack of educational opportunities contribute to these achievement gaps and ultimately limit the students’ human capabilities. In order to provide the most relevant and neutral information on this topic, I will be specifically be using research conclusions from Rumberger (2010), No Longer Separate Not Yet Equal, Heckman and LaFontaine (2010), and a variety of other sociological sources. Any feedback or comments would be greatly appreciated!

Morell21 (talk) 16:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

That seems like an excellent plan. Let us know when you'd like to get feedback on the article, I can help with preparing for a GA level submission by doing a B-class review. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:48, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
I see from your comments elsewhere that this part of of a class project. Can you link to your class wiki page WP:SUP/WP:USEP or such)? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:18, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Expanding gentrification article

I am planning on expanding the Gentrification article in the coming weeks and would really appreciate ideas from the sociology project community. Gentrification is accepted as a fairly universal concept, and is rated high on its importance to the content of Wikipedia. The existing article is an effort to encompass the complexity of gentrification theory, causes, and examples, but it is rated C-class in quality by both of the Wikiprojects Urban Studies and Planning as well as Sociology. This discrepancy between high importance and low quality certainly needs to be eradicated with revisions and expansions on the topic. I want to give this article a larger focus on the causes and effects of gentrification, for those are the aspects of the process that are actually visible in so many places around the world. The inclusion of two more extensive examples of gentrification will also enable the process to be understood and applied more clearly. I believe . Its study is integral to understanding our changing world. Some researchers I will draw my research from include Peter Smith, Neil Williams, Loretta Lees, and P.A. Redfern. I will be making my revisions in the coming weeks-- stop by and let me know what you think! --Lggernon (talk) 06:01, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I see from your comments elsewhere that this part of of a class project. Can you link to your class wiki page WP:SUP/WP:USEP or such)? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:17, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage live

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage is now a live RFC. It is now in its structure phase, where its arguments and options are refined before opinions are registered. Please participate! —chaos5023 (talk) 03:47, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Racial achievement gap in the United States

I am going to revise the Wikipedia article “Racial achievement gap in the United States”. Even though education is a basic right to all citizens in the United States, throughout the years research and data has shown large differences in success rates between students within the educational system. The achievement gap is also important factor in breaking the cycle of poverty. Research shows that poverty is strongly related to low academic achievement. Growing up in poverty often means inadequate health care, poor nutrition, and fewer resources in the home, which are all factors known to lower school performance. This then leads to higher drop out rates, low-wage jobs, and unemployment; thus perpetuating the cycle of poverty. However, education can help break the cycle of poverty. Success in education plays a major role in increasing employment rates, lowering poverty rates, preventing crime, and decreasing violence. Understanding and having information about the racial achievement gap could help to clarify root causes and methods that are helping to either mitigate of perpetuate the achievement gap. I plan to draw on many sociological articles and studies regarding the racial achievement gap and results of the attempts to narrow the achievement gap. This includes works from Ruth Turley and Adam Gamoran, James Ainsworth, Abhijit V. Banerjee and Esther Duflo, Cynthia Prince, and the Society for Research on Educational Effectiveness (SREE). I would appreciate any comments or feedback.

Mmcolson (talk) 04:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

More on the Racial Achievement Gap in the United States

Besides being rated poorly by Wikipedia standards while also missing substantial amounts of important information, the importance of the subject matter in the “Racial Achievement Gap in the United States” article merit its expansion. I believe racial inequality – specifically educational racial inequality – to be an important American social issue. For decades, White and Asian American students have systematically outperformed Black and Hispanic students. Why is this the case? What factors contribute to this gap? What interventions effectively close the gap? Should interventions even be pursued? The answers to these questions are not only important for understanding educational achievement gains. Specifically, the racial achievement gap ultimately affects what type of jobs students pursue, how much money they earn, and whether or not they become productive citizens contributing to the American and global economies. Analyzing and understanding the racial achievement gap allows administrators and policy makers to effectively evaluate public school systems. Martha Nussbaum’s (2011) Capabilities Approach includes “asking not just about the total or average well-being but about the opportunities available to each person”(Nussbaum 2011:18). Thus, one must question and investigate whether or not the lack of educational opportunities contribute to these achievement gaps and ultimately limit the students’ human capabilities. In order to provide the most relevant and neutral information on this topic, I will be specifically be using research conclusions from Rumberger (2010), No Longer Separate Not Yet Equal, Heckman and LaFontaine (2010), and a variety of other sociological sources. Any feedback or comments would be greatly appreciated!

Morell21 (talk) 16:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

That seems like an excellent plan. Let us know when you'd like to get feedback on the article, I can help with preparing for a GA level submission by doing a B-class review. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:48, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
I see from your comments elsewhere that this part of of a class project. Can you link to your class wiki page WP:SUP/WP:USEP or such)? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:18, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Expanding gentrification article

I am planning on expanding the Gentrification article in the coming weeks and would really appreciate ideas from the sociology project community. Gentrification is accepted as a fairly universal concept, and is rated high on its importance to the content of Wikipedia. The existing article is an effort to encompass the complexity of gentrification theory, causes, and examples, but it is rated C-class in quality by both of the Wikiprojects Urban Studies and Planning as well as Sociology. This discrepancy between high importance and low quality certainly needs to be eradicated with revisions and expansions on the topic. I want to give this article a larger focus on the causes and effects of gentrification, for those are the aspects of the process that are actually visible in so many places around the world. The inclusion of two more extensive examples of gentrification will also enable the process to be understood and applied more clearly. I believe . Its study is integral to understanding our changing world. Some researchers I will draw my research from include Peter Smith, Neil Williams, Loretta Lees, and P.A. Redfern. I will be making my revisions in the coming weeks-- stop by and let me know what you think! --Lggernon (talk) 06:01, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I see from your comments elsewhere that this part of of a class project. Can you link to your class wiki page WP:SUP/WP:USEP or such)? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:17, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage live

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage is now a live RFC. It is now in its structure phase, where its arguments and options are refined before opinions are registered. Please participate! —chaos5023 (talk) 03:47, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Racial achievement gap in the United States

I am going to revise the Wikipedia article “Racial achievement gap in the United States”. Even though education is a basic right to all citizens in the United States, throughout the years research and data has shown large differences in success rates between students within the educational system. The achievement gap is also important factor in breaking the cycle of poverty. Research shows that poverty is strongly related to low academic achievement. Growing up in poverty often means inadequate health care, poor nutrition, and fewer resources in the home, which are all factors known to lower school performance. This then leads to higher drop out rates, low-wage jobs, and unemployment; thus perpetuating the cycle of poverty. However, education can help break the cycle of poverty. Success in education plays a major role in increasing employment rates, lowering poverty rates, preventing crime, and decreasing violence. Understanding and having information about the racial achievement gap could help to clarify root causes and methods that are helping to either mitigate of perpetuate the achievement gap. I plan to draw on many sociological articles and studies regarding the racial achievement gap and results of the attempts to narrow the achievement gap. This includes works from Ruth Turley and Adam Gamoran, James Ainsworth, Abhijit V. Banerjee and Esther Duflo, Cynthia Prince, and the Society for Research on Educational Effectiveness (SREE). I would appreciate any comments or feedback.

Mmcolson (talk) 04:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

More on the Racial Achievement Gap in the United States

Besides being rated poorly by Wikipedia standards while also missing substantial amounts of important information, the importance of the subject matter in the “Racial Achievement Gap in the United States” article merit its expansion. I believe racial inequality – specifically educational racial inequality – to be an important American social issue. For decades, White and Asian American students have systematically outperformed Black and Hispanic students. Why is this the case? What factors contribute to this gap? What interventions effectively close the gap? Should interventions even be pursued? The answers to these questions are not only important for understanding educational achievement gains. Specifically, the racial achievement gap ultimately affects what type of jobs students pursue, how much money they earn, and whether or not they become productive citizens contributing to the American and global economies. Analyzing and understanding the racial achievement gap allows administrators and policy makers to effectively evaluate public school systems. Martha Nussbaum’s (2011) Capabilities Approach includes “asking not just about the total or average well-being but about the opportunities available to each person”(Nussbaum 2011:18). Thus, one must question and investigate whether or not the lack of educational opportunities contribute to these achievement gaps and ultimately limit the students’ human capabilities. In order to provide the most relevant and neutral information on this topic, I will be specifically be using research conclusions from Rumberger (2010), No Longer Separate Not Yet Equal, Heckman and LaFontaine (2010), and a variety of other sociological sources. Any feedback or comments would be greatly appreciated!

Morell21 (talk) 16:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

That seems like an excellent plan. Let us know when you'd like to get feedback on the article, I can help with preparing for a GA level submission by doing a B-class review. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:48, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
I see from your comments elsewhere that this part of of a class project. Can you link to your class wiki page WP:SUP/WP:USEP or such)? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:18, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Expanding gentrification article

I am planning on expanding the Gentrification article in the coming weeks and would really appreciate ideas from the sociology project community. Gentrification is accepted as a fairly universal concept, and is rated high on its importance to the content of Wikipedia. The existing article is an effort to encompass the complexity of gentrification theory, causes, and examples, but it is rated C-class in quality by both of the Wikiprojects Urban Studies and Planning as well as Sociology. This discrepancy between high importance and low quality certainly needs to be eradicated with revisions and expansions on the topic. I want to give this article a larger focus on the causes and effects of gentrification, for those are the aspects of the process that are actually visible in so many places around the world. The inclusion of two more extensive examples of gentrification will also enable the process to be understood and applied more clearly. I believe . Its study is integral to understanding our changing world. Some researchers I will draw my research from include Peter Smith, Neil Williams, Loretta Lees, and P.A. Redfern. I will be making my revisions in the coming weeks-- stop by and let me know what you think! --Lggernon (talk) 06:01, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I see from your comments elsewhere that this part of of a class project. Can you link to your class wiki page WP:SUP/WP:USEP or such)? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:17, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage live

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage is now a live RFC. It is now in its structure phase, where its arguments and options are refined before opinions are registered. Please participate! —chaos5023 (talk) 03:47, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Racial achievement gap in the United States

I am going to revise the Wikipedia article “Racial achievement gap in the United States”. Even though education is a basic right to all citizens in the United States, throughout the years research and data has shown large differences in success rates between students within the educational system. The achievement gap is also important factor in breaking the cycle of poverty. Research shows that poverty is strongly related to low academic achievement. Growing up in poverty often means inadequate health care, poor nutrition, and fewer resources in the home, which are all factors known to lower school performance. This then leads to higher drop out rates, low-wage jobs, and unemployment; thus perpetuating the cycle of poverty. However, education can help break the cycle of poverty. Success in education plays a major role in increasing employment rates, lowering poverty rates, preventing crime, and decreasing violence. Understanding and having information about the racial achievement gap could help to clarify root causes and methods that are helping to either mitigate of perpetuate the achievement gap. I plan to draw on many sociological articles and studies regarding the racial achievement gap and results of the attempts to narrow the achievement gap. This includes works from Ruth Turley and Adam Gamoran, James Ainsworth, Abhijit V. Banerjee and Esther Duflo, Cynthia Prince, and the Society for Research on Educational Effectiveness (SREE). I would appreciate any comments or feedback.

Mmcolson (talk) 04:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

More on the Racial Achievement Gap in the United States

Besides being rated poorly by Wikipedia standards while also missing substantial amounts of important information, the importance of the subject matter in the “Racial Achievement Gap in the United States” article merit its expansion. I believe racial inequality – specifically educational racial inequality – to be an important American social issue. For decades, White and Asian American students have systematically outperformed Black and Hispanic students. Why is this the case? What factors contribute to this gap? What interventions effectively close the gap? Should interventions even be pursued? The answers to these questions are not only important for understanding educational achievement gains. Specifically, the racial achievement gap ultimately affects what type of jobs students pursue, how much money they earn, and whether or not they become productive citizens contributing to the American and global economies. Analyzing and understanding the racial achievement gap allows administrators and policy makers to effectively evaluate public school systems. Martha Nussbaum’s (2011) Capabilities Approach includes “asking not just about the total or average well-being but about the opportunities available to each person”(Nussbaum 2011:18). Thus, one must question and investigate whether or not the lack of educational opportunities contribute to these achievement gaps and ultimately limit the students’ human capabilities. In order to provide the most relevant and neutral information on this topic, I will be specifically be using research conclusions from Rumberger (2010), No Longer Separate Not Yet Equal, Heckman and LaFontaine (2010), and a variety of other sociological sources. Any feedback or comments would be greatly appreciated!

Morell21 (talk) 16:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

That seems like an excellent plan. Let us know when you'd like to get feedback on the article, I can help with preparing for a GA level submission by doing a B-class review. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:48, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
I see from your comments elsewhere that this part of of a class project. Can you link to your class wiki page WP:SUP/WP:USEP or such)? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:18, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Expanding gentrification article

I am planning on expanding the Gentrification article in the coming weeks and would really appreciate ideas from the sociology project community. Gentrification is accepted as a fairly universal concept, and is rated high on its importance to the content of Wikipedia. The existing article is an effort to encompass the complexity of gentrification theory, causes, and examples, but it is rated C-class in quality by both of the Wikiprojects Urban Studies and Planning as well as Sociology. This discrepancy between high importance and low quality certainly needs to be eradicated with revisions and expansions on the topic. I want to give this article a larger focus on the causes and effects of gentrification, for those are the aspects of the process that are actually visible in so many places around the world. The inclusion of two more extensive examples of gentrification will also enable the process to be understood and applied more clearly. I believe . Its study is integral to understanding our changing world. Some researchers I will draw my research from include Peter Smith, Neil Williams, Loretta Lees, and P.A. Redfern. I will be making my revisions in the coming weeks-- stop by and let me know what you think! --Lggernon (talk) 06:01, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I see from your comments elsewhere that this part of of a class project. Can you link to your class wiki page WP:SUP/WP:USEP or such)? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:17, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage live

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage is now a live RFC. It is now in its structure phase, where its arguments and options are refined before opinions are registered. Please participate! —chaos5023 (talk) 03:47, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Racial achievement gap in the United States

I am going to revise the Wikipedia article “Racial achievement gap in the United States”. Even though education is a basic right to all citizens in the United States, throughout the years research and data has shown large differences in success rates between students within the educational system. The achievement gap is also important factor in breaking the cycle of poverty. Research shows that poverty is strongly related to low academic achievement. Growing up in poverty often means inadequate health care, poor nutrition, and fewer resources in the home, which are all factors known to lower school performance. This then leads to higher drop out rates, low-wage jobs, and unemployment; thus perpetuating the cycle of poverty. However, education can help break the cycle of poverty. Success in education plays a major role in increasing employment rates, lowering poverty rates, preventing crime, and decreasing violence. Understanding and having information about the racial achievement gap could help to clarify root causes and methods that are helping to either mitigate of perpetuate the achievement gap. I plan to draw on many sociological articles and studies regarding the racial achievement gap and results of the attempts to narrow the achievement gap. This includes works from Ruth Turley and Adam Gamoran, James Ainsworth, Abhijit V. Banerjee and Esther Duflo, Cynthia Prince, and the Society for Research on Educational Effectiveness (SREE). I would appreciate any comments or feedback.

Mmcolson (talk) 04:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

More on the Racial Achievement Gap in the United States

Besides being rated poorly by Wikipedia standards while also missing substantial amounts of important information, the importance of the subject matter in the “Racial Achievement Gap in the United States” article merit its expansion. I believe racial inequality – specifically educational racial inequality – to be an important American social issue. For decades, White and Asian American students have systematically outperformed Black and Hispanic students. Why is this the case? What factors contribute to this gap? What interventions effectively close the gap? Should interventions even be pursued? The answers to these questions are not only important for understanding educational achievement gains. Specifically, the racial achievement gap ultimately affects what type of jobs students pursue, how much money they earn, and whether or not they become productive citizens contributing to the American and global economies. Analyzing and understanding the racial achievement gap allows administrators and policy makers to effectively evaluate public school systems. Martha Nussbaum’s (2011) Capabilities Approach includes “asking not just about the total or average well-being but about the opportunities available to each person”(Nussbaum 2011:18). Thus, one must question and investigate whether or not the lack of educational opportunities contribute to these achievement gaps and ultimately limit the students’ human capabilities. In order to provide the most relevant and neutral information on this topic, I will be specifically be using research conclusions from Rumberger (2010), No Longer Separate Not Yet Equal, Heckman and LaFontaine (2010), and a variety of other sociological sources. Any feedback or comments would be greatly appreciated!

Morell21 (talk) 16:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

That seems like an excellent plan. Let us know when you'd like to get feedback on the article, I can help with preparing for a GA level submission by doing a B-class review. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:48, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
I see from your comments elsewhere that this part of of a class project. Can you link to your class wiki page WP:SUP/WP:USEP or such)? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:18, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Expanding gentrification article

I am planning on expanding the Gentrification article in the coming weeks and would really appreciate ideas from the sociology project community. Gentrification is accepted as a fairly universal concept, and is rated high on its importance to the content of Wikipedia. The existing article is an effort to encompass the complexity of gentrification theory, causes, and examples, but it is rated C-class in quality by both of the Wikiprojects Urban Studies and Planning as well as Sociology. This discrepancy between high importance and low quality certainly needs to be eradicated with revisions and expansions on the topic. I want to give this article a larger focus on the causes and effects of gentrification, for those are the aspects of the process that are actually visible in so many places around the world. The inclusion of two more extensive examples of gentrification will also enable the process to be understood and applied more clearly. I believe . Its study is integral to understanding our changing world. Some researchers I will draw my research from include Peter Smith, Neil Williams, Loretta Lees, and P.A. Redfern. I will be making my revisions in the coming weeks-- stop by and let me know what you think! --Lggernon (talk) 06:01, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I see from your comments elsewhere that this part of of a class project. Can you link to your class wiki page WP:SUP/WP:USEP or such)? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:17, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage live

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage is now a live RFC. It is now in its structure phase, where its arguments and options are refined before opinions are registered. Please participate! —chaos5023 (talk) 03:47, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Racial achievement gap in the United States

I am going to revise the Wikipedia article “Racial achievement gap in the United States”. Even though education is a basic right to all citizens in the United States, throughout the years research and data has shown large differences in success rates between students within the educational system. The achievement gap is also important factor in breaking the cycle of poverty. Research shows that poverty is strongly related to low academic achievement. Growing up in poverty often means inadequate health care, poor nutrition, and fewer resources in the home, which are all factors known to lower school performance. This then leads to higher drop out rates, low-wage jobs, and unemployment; thus perpetuating the cycle of poverty. However, education can help break the cycle of poverty. Success in education plays a major role in increasing employment rates, lowering poverty rates, preventing crime, and decreasing violence. Understanding and having information about the racial achievement gap could help to clarify root causes and methods that are helping to either mitigate of perpetuate the achievement gap. I plan to draw on many sociological articles and studies regarding the racial achievement gap and results of the attempts to narrow the achievement gap. This includes works from Ruth Turley and Adam Gamoran, James Ainsworth, Abhijit V. Banerjee and Esther Duflo, Cynthia Prince, and the Society for Research on Educational Effectiveness (SREE). I would appreciate any comments or feedback.

Mmcolson (talk) 04:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

More on the Racial Achievement Gap in the United States

Besides being rated poorly by Wikipedia standards while also missing substantial amounts of important information, the importance of the subject matter in the “Racial Achievement Gap in the United States” article merit its expansion. I believe racial inequality – specifically educational racial inequality – to be an important American social issue. For decades, White and Asian American students have systematically outperformed Black and Hispanic students. Why is this the case? What factors contribute to this gap? What interventions effectively close the gap? Should interventions even be pursued? The answers to these questions are not only important for understanding educational achievement gains. Specifically, the racial achievement gap ultimately affects what type of jobs students pursue, how much money they earn, and whether or not they become productive citizens contributing to the American and global economies. Analyzing and understanding the racial achievement gap allows administrators and policy makers to effectively evaluate public school systems. Martha Nussbaum’s (2011) Capabilities Approach includes “asking not just about the total or average well-being but about the opportunities available to each person”(Nussbaum 2011:18). Thus, one must question and investigate whether or not the lack of educational opportunities contribute to these achievement gaps and ultimately limit the students’ human capabilities. In order to provide the most relevant and neutral information on this topic, I will be specifically be using research conclusions from Rumberger (2010), No Longer Separate Not Yet Equal, Heckman and LaFontaine (2010), and a variety of other sociological sources. Any feedback or comments would be greatly appreciated!

Morell21 (talk) 16:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

That seems like an excellent plan. Let us know when you'd like to get feedback on the article, I can help with preparing for a GA level submission by doing a B-class review. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:48, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
I see from your comments elsewhere that this part of of a class project. Can you link to your class wiki page WP:SUP/WP:USEP or such)? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:18, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Expanding gentrification article

I am planning on expanding the Gentrification article in the coming weeks and would really appreciate ideas from the sociology project community. Gentrification is accepted as a fairly universal concept, and is rated high on its importance to the content of Wikipedia. The existing article is an effort to encompass the complexity of gentrification theory, causes, and examples, but it is rated C-class in quality by both of the Wikiprojects Urban Studies and Planning as well as Sociology. This discrepancy between high importance and low quality certainly needs to be eradicated with revisions and expansions on the topic. I want to give this article a larger focus on the causes and effects of gentrification, for those are the aspects of the process that are actually visible in so many places around the world. The inclusion of two more extensive examples of gentrification will also enable the process to be understood and applied more clearly. I believe . Its study is integral to understanding our changing world. Some researchers I will draw my research from include Peter Smith, Neil Williams, Loretta Lees, and P.A. Redfern. I will be making my revisions in the coming weeks-- stop by and let me know what you think! --Lggernon (talk) 06:01, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I see from your comments elsewhere that this part of of a class project. Can you link to your class wiki page WP:SUP/WP:USEP or such)? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:17, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage live

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage is now a live RFC. It is now in its structure phase, where its arguments and options are refined before opinions are registered. Please participate! —chaos5023 (talk) 03:47, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Racial achievement gap in the United States

I am going to revise the Wikipedia article “Racial achievement gap in the United States”. Even though education is a basic right to all citizens in the United States, throughout the years research and data has shown large differences in success rates between students within the educational system. The achievement gap is also important factor in breaking the cycle of poverty. Research shows that poverty is strongly related to low academic achievement. Growing up in poverty often means inadequate health care, poor nutrition, and fewer resources in the home, which are all factors known to lower school performance. This then leads to higher drop out rates, low-wage jobs, and unemployment; thus perpetuating the cycle of poverty. However, education can help break the cycle of poverty. Success in education plays a major role in increasing employment rates, lowering poverty rates, preventing crime, and decreasing violence. Understanding and having information about the racial achievement gap could help to clarify root causes and methods that are helping to either mitigate of perpetuate the achievement gap. I plan to draw on many sociological articles and studies regarding the racial achievement gap and results of the attempts to narrow the achievement gap. This includes works from Ruth Turley and Adam Gamoran, James Ainsworth, Abhijit V. Banerjee and Esther Duflo, Cynthia Prince, and the Society for Research on Educational Effectiveness (SREE). I would appreciate any comments or feedback.

Mmcolson (talk) 04:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

More on the Racial Achievement Gap in the United States

Besides being rated poorly by Wikipedia standards while also missing substantial amounts of important information, the importance of the subject matter in the “Racial Achievement Gap in the United States” article merit its expansion. I believe racial inequality – specifically educational racial inequality – to be an important American social issue. For decades, White and Asian American students have systematically outperformed Black and Hispanic students. Why is this the case? What factors contribute to this gap? What interventions effectively close the gap? Should interventions even be pursued? The answers to these questions are not only important for understanding educational achievement gains. Specifically, the racial achievement gap ultimately affects what type of jobs students pursue, how much money they earn, and whether or not they become productive citizens contributing to the American and global economies. Analyzing and understanding the racial achievement gap allows administrators and policy makers to effectively evaluate public school systems. Martha Nussbaum’s (2011) Capabilities Approach includes “asking not just about the total or average well-being but about the opportunities available to each person”(Nussbaum 2011:18). Thus, one must question and investigate whether or not the lack of educational opportunities contribute to these achievement gaps and ultimately limit the students’ human capabilities. In order to provide the most relevant and neutral information on this topic, I will be specifically be using research conclusions from Rumberger (2010), No Longer Separate Not Yet Equal, Heckman and LaFontaine (2010), and a variety of other sociological sources. Any feedback or comments would be greatly appreciated!

Morell21 (talk) 16:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

That seems like an excellent plan. Let us know when you'd like to get feedback on the article, I can help with preparing for a GA level submission by doing a B-class review. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:48, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
I see from your comments elsewhere that this part of of a class project. Can you link to your class wiki page WP:SUP/WP:USEP or such)? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:18, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Expanding gentrification article

I am planning on expanding the Gentrification article in the coming weeks and would really appreciate ideas from the sociology project community. Gentrification is accepted as a fairly universal concept, and is rated high on its importance to the content of Wikipedia. The existing article is an effort to encompass the complexity of gentrification theory, causes, and examples, but it is rated C-class in quality by both of the Wikiprojects Urban Studies and Planning as well as Sociology. This discrepancy between high importance and low quality certainly needs to be eradicated with revisions and expansions on the topic. I want to give this article a larger focus on the causes and effects of gentrification, for those are the aspects of the process that are actually visible in so many places around the world. The inclusion of two more extensive examples of gentrification will also enable the process to be understood and applied more clearly. I believe . Its study is integral to understanding our changing world. Some researchers I will draw my research from include Peter Smith, Neil Williams, Loretta Lees, and P.A. Redfern. I will be making my revisions in the coming weeks-- stop by and let me know what you think! --Lggernon (talk) 06:01, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I see from your comments elsewhere that this part of of a class project. Can you link to your class wiki page WP:SUP/WP:USEP or such)? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:17, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage live

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage is now a live RFC. It is now in its structure phase, where its arguments and options are refined before opinions are registered. Please participate! —chaos5023 (talk) 03:47, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Racial achievement gap in the United States

I am going to revise the Wikipedia article “Racial achievement gap in the United States”. Even though education is a basic right to all citizens in the United States, throughout the years research and data has shown large differences in success rates between students within the educational system. The achievement gap is also important factor in breaking the cycle of poverty. Research shows that poverty is strongly related to low academic achievement. Growing up in poverty often means inadequate health care, poor nutrition, and fewer resources in the home, which are all factors known to lower school performance. This then leads to higher drop out rates, low-wage jobs, and unemployment; thus perpetuating the cycle of poverty. However, education can help break the cycle of poverty. Success in education plays a major role in increasing employment rates, lowering poverty rates, preventing crime, and decreasing violence. Understanding and having information about the racial achievement gap could help to clarify root causes and methods that are helping to either mitigate of perpetuate the achievement gap. I plan to draw on many sociological articles and studies regarding the racial achievement gap and results of the attempts to narrow the achievement gap. This includes works from Ruth Turley and Adam Gamoran, James Ainsworth, Abhijit V. Banerjee and Esther Duflo, Cynthia Prince, and the Society for Research on Educational Effectiveness (SREE). I would appreciate any comments or feedback.

Mmcolson (talk) 04:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

More on the Racial Achievement Gap in the United States

Besides being rated poorly by Wikipedia standards while also missing substantial amounts of important information, the importance of the subject matter in the “Racial Achievement Gap in the United States” article merit its expansion. I believe racial inequality – specifically educational racial inequality – to be an important American social issue. For decades, White and Asian American students have systematically outperformed Black and Hispanic students. Why is this the case? What factors contribute to this gap? What interventions effectively close the gap? Should interventions even be pursued? The answers to these questions are not only important for understanding educational achievement gains. Specifically, the racial achievement gap ultimately affects what type of jobs students pursue, how much money they earn, and whether or not they become productive citizens contributing to the American and global economies. Analyzing and understanding the racial achievement gap allows administrators and policy makers to effectively evaluate public school systems. Martha Nussbaum’s (2011) Capabilities Approach includes “asking not just about the total or average well-being but about the opportunities available to each person”(Nussbaum 2011:18). Thus, one must question and investigate whether or not the lack of educational opportunities contribute to these achievement gaps and ultimately limit the students’ human capabilities. In order to provide the most relevant and neutral information on this topic, I will be specifically be using research conclusions from Rumberger (2010), No Longer Separate Not Yet Equal, Heckman and LaFontaine (2010), and a variety of other sociological sources. Any feedback or comments would be greatly appreciated!

Morell21 (talk) 16:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

That seems like an excellent plan. Let us know when you'd like to get feedback on the article, I can help with preparing for a GA level submission by doing a B-class review. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:48, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
I see from your comments elsewhere that this part of of a class project. Can you link to your class wiki page WP:SUP/WP:USEP or such)? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:18, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Expanding gentrification article

I am planning on expanding the Gentrification article in the coming weeks and would really appreciate ideas from the sociology project community. Gentrification is accepted as a fairly universal concept, and is rated high on its importance to the content of Wikipedia. The existing article is an effort to encompass the complexity of gentrification theory, causes, and examples, but it is rated C-class in quality by both of the Wikiprojects Urban Studies and Planning as well as Sociology. This discrepancy between high importance and low quality certainly needs to be eradicated with revisions and expansions on the topic. I want to give this article a larger focus on the causes and effects of gentrification, for those are the aspects of the process that are actually visible in so many places around the world. The inclusion of two more extensive examples of gentrification will also enable the process to be understood and applied more clearly. I believe . Its study is integral to understanding our changing world. Some researchers I will draw my research from include Peter Smith, Neil Williams, Loretta Lees, and P.A. Redfern. I will be making my revisions in the coming weeks-- stop by and let me know what you think! --Lggernon (talk) 06:01, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I see from your comments elsewhere that this part of of a class project. Can you link to your class wiki page WP:SUP/WP:USEP or such)? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:17, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage live

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage is now a live RFC. It is now in its structure phase, where its arguments and options are refined before opinions are registered. Please participate! —chaos5023 (talk) 03:47, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Racial achievement gap in the United States

I am going to revise the Wikipedia article “Racial achievement gap in the United States”. Even though education is a basic right to all citizens in the United States, throughout the years research and data has shown large differences in success rates between students within the educational system. The achievement gap is also important factor in breaking the cycle of poverty. Research shows that poverty is strongly related to low academic achievement. Growing up in poverty often means inadequate health care, poor nutrition, and fewer resources in the home, which are all factors known to lower school performance. This then leads to higher drop out rates, low-wage jobs, and unemployment; thus perpetuating the cycle of poverty. However, education can help break the cycle of poverty. Success in education plays a major role in increasing employment rates, lowering poverty rates, preventing crime, and decreasing violence. Understanding and having information about the racial achievement gap could help to clarify root causes and methods that are helping to either mitigate of perpetuate the achievement gap. I plan to draw on many sociological articles and studies regarding the racial achievement gap and results of the attempts to narrow the achievement gap. This includes works from Ruth Turley and Adam Gamoran, James Ainsworth, Abhijit V. Banerjee and Esther Duflo, Cynthia Prince, and the Society for Research on Educational Effectiveness (SREE). I would appreciate any comments or feedback.

Mmcolson (talk) 04:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

More on the Racial Achievement Gap in the United States

Besides being rated poorly by Wikipedia standards while also missing substantial amounts of important information, the importance of the subject matter in the “Racial Achievement Gap in the United States” article merit its expansion. I believe racial inequality – specifically educational racial inequality – to be an important American social issue. For decades, White and Asian American students have systematically outperformed Black and Hispanic students. Why is this the case? What factors contribute to this gap? What interventions effectively close the gap? Should interventions even be pursued? The answers to these questions are not only important for understanding educational achievement gains. Specifically, the racial achievement gap ultimately affects what type of jobs students pursue, how much money they earn, and whether or not they become productive citizens contributing to the American and global economies. Analyzing and understanding the racial achievement gap allows administrators and policy makers to effectively evaluate public school systems. Martha Nussbaum’s (2011) Capabilities Approach includes “asking not just about the total or average well-being but about the opportunities available to each person”(Nussbaum 2011:18). Thus, one must question and investigate whether or not the lack of educational opportunities contribute to these achievement gaps and ultimately limit the students’ human capabilities. In order to provide the most relevant and neutral information on this topic, I will be specifically be using research conclusions from Rumberger (2010), No Longer Separate Not Yet Equal, Heckman and LaFontaine (2010), and a variety of other sociological sources. Any feedback or comments would be greatly appreciated!

Morell21 (talk) 16:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

That seems like an excellent plan. Let us know when you'd like to get feedback on the article, I can help with preparing for a GA level submission by doing a B-class review. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:48, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
I see from your comments elsewhere that this part of of a class project. Can you link to your class wiki page WP:SUP/WP:USEP or such)? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:18, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Expanding gentrification article

I am planning on expanding the Gentrification article in the coming weeks and would really appreciate ideas from the sociology project community. Gentrification is accepted as a fairly universal concept, and is rated high on its importance to the content of Wikipedia. The existing article is an effort to encompass the complexity of gentrification theory, causes, and examples, but it is rated C-class in quality by both of the Wikiprojects Urban Studies and Planning as well as Sociology. This discrepancy between high importance and low quality certainly needs to be eradicated with revisions and expansions on the topic. I want to give this article a larger focus on the causes and effects of gentrification, for those are the aspects of the process that are actually visible in so many places around the world. The inclusion of two more extensive examples of gentrification will also enable the process to be understood and applied more clearly. I believe . Its study is integral to understanding our changing world. Some researchers I will draw my research from include Peter Smith, Neil Williams, Loretta Lees, and P.A. Redfern. I will be making my revisions in the coming weeks-- stop by and let me know what you think! --Lggernon (talk) 06:01, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I see from your comments elsewhere that this part of of a class project. Can you link to your class wiki page WP:SUP/WP:USEP or such)? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:17, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage live

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage is now a live RFC. It is now in its structure phase, where its arguments and options are refined before opinions are registered. Please participate! —chaos5023 (talk) 03:47, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Racial achievement gap in the United States

I am going to revise the Wikipedia article “Racial achievement gap in the United States”. Even though education is a basic right to all citizens in the United States, throughout the years research and data has shown large differences in success rates between students within the educational system. The achievement gap is also important factor in breaking the cycle of poverty. Research shows that poverty is strongly related to low academic achievement. Growing up in poverty often means inadequate health care, poor nutrition, and fewer resources in the home, which are all factors known to lower school performance. This then leads to higher drop out rates, low-wage jobs, and unemployment; thus perpetuating the cycle of poverty. However, education can help break the cycle of poverty. Success in education plays a major role in increasing employment rates, lowering poverty rates, preventing crime, and decreasing violence. Understanding and having information about the racial achievement gap could help to clarify root causes and methods that are helping to either mitigate of perpetuate the achievement gap. I plan to draw on many sociological articles and studies regarding the racial achievement gap and results of the attempts to narrow the achievement gap. This includes works from Ruth Turley and Adam Gamoran, James Ainsworth, Abhijit V. Banerjee and Esther Duflo, Cynthia Prince, and the Society for Research on Educational Effectiveness (SREE). I would appreciate any comments or feedback.

Mmcolson (talk) 04:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

More on the Racial Achievement Gap in the United States

Besides being rated poorly by Wikipedia standards while also missing substantial amounts of important information, the importance of the subject matter in the “Racial Achievement Gap in the United States” article merit its expansion. I believe racial inequality – specifically educational racial inequality – to be an important American social issue. For decades, White and Asian American students have systematically outperformed Black and Hispanic students. Why is this the case? What factors contribute to this gap? What interventions effectively close the gap? Should interventions even be pursued? The answers to these questions are not only important for understanding educational achievement gains. Specifically, the racial achievement gap ultimately affects what type of jobs students pursue, how much money they earn, and whether or not they become productive citizens contributing to the American and global economies. Analyzing and understanding the racial achievement gap allows administrators and policy makers to effectively evaluate public school systems. Martha Nussbaum’s (2011) Capabilities Approach includes “asking not just about the total or average well-being but about the opportunities available to each person”(Nussbaum 2011:18). Thus, one must question and investigate whether or not the lack of educational opportunities contribute to these achievement gaps and ultimately limit the students’ human capabilities. In order to provide the most relevant and neutral information on this topic, I will be specifically be using research conclusions from Rumberger (2010), No Longer Separate Not Yet Equal, Heckman and LaFontaine (2010), and a variety of other sociological sources. Any feedback or comments would be greatly appreciated!

Morell21 (talk) 16:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

That seems like an excellent plan. Let us know when you'd like to get feedback on the article, I can help with preparing for a GA level submission by doing a B-class review. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:48, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
I see from your comments elsewhere that this part of of a class project. Can you link to your class wiki page WP:SUP/WP:USEP or such)? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:18, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Expanding gentrification article

I am planning on expanding the Gentrification article in the coming weeks and would really appreciate ideas from the sociology project community. Gentrification is accepted as a fairly universal concept, and is rated high on its importance to the content of Wikipedia. The existing article is an effort to encompass the complexity of gentrification theory, causes, and examples, but it is rated C-class in quality by both of the Wikiprojects Urban Studies and Planning as well as Sociology. This discrepancy between high importance and low quality certainly needs to be eradicated with revisions and expansions on the topic. I want to give this article a larger focus on the causes and effects of gentrification, for those are the aspects of the process that are actually visible in so many places around the world. The inclusion of two more extensive examples of gentrification will also enable the process to be understood and applied more clearly. I believe . Its study is integral to understanding our changing world. Some researchers I will draw my research from include Peter Smith, Neil Williams, Loretta Lees, and P.A. Redfern. I will be making my revisions in the coming weeks-- stop by and let me know what you think! --Lggernon (talk) 06:01, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I see from your comments elsewhere that this part of of a class project. Can you link to your class wiki page WP:SUP/WP:USEP or such)? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:17, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage live

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage is now a live RFC. It is now in its structure phase, where its arguments and options are refined before opinions are registered. Please participate! —chaos5023 (talk) 03:47, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Racial achievement gap in the United States

I am going to revise the Wikipedia article “Racial achievement gap in the United States”. Even though education is a basic right to all citizens in the United States, throughout the years research and data has shown large differences in success rates between students within the educational system. The achievement gap is also important factor in breaking the cycle of poverty. Research shows that poverty is strongly related to low academic achievement. Growing up in poverty often means inadequate health care, poor nutrition, and fewer resources in the home, which are all factors known to lower school performance. This then leads to higher drop out rates, low-wage jobs, and unemployment; thus perpetuating the cycle of poverty. However, education can help break the cycle of poverty. Success in education plays a major role in increasing employment rates, lowering poverty rates, preventing crime, and decreasing violence. Understanding and having information about the racial achievement gap could help to clarify root causes and methods that are helping to either mitigate of perpetuate the achievement gap. I plan to draw on many sociological articles and studies regarding the racial achievement gap and results of the attempts to narrow the achievement gap. This includes works from Ruth Turley and Adam Gamoran, James Ainsworth, Abhijit V. Banerjee and Esther Duflo, Cynthia Prince, and the Society for Research on Educational Effectiveness (SREE). I would appreciate any comments or feedback.

Mmcolson (talk) 04:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

More on the Racial Achievement Gap in the United States

Besides being rated poorly by Wikipedia standards while also missing substantial amounts of important information, the importance of the subject matter in the “Racial Achievement Gap in the United States” article merit its expansion. I believe racial inequality – specifically educational racial inequality – to be an important American social issue. For decades, White and Asian American students have systematically outperformed Black and Hispanic students. Why is this the case? What factors contribute to this gap? What interventions effectively close the gap? Should interventions even be pursued? The answers to these questions are not only important for understanding educational achievement gains. Specifically, the racial achievement gap ultimately affects what type of jobs students pursue, how much money they earn, and whether or not they become productive citizens contributing to the American and global economies. Analyzing and understanding the racial achievement gap allows administrators and policy makers to effectively evaluate public school systems. Martha Nussbaum’s (2011) Capabilities Approach includes “asking not just about the total or average well-being but about the opportunities available to each person”(Nussbaum 2011:18). Thus, one must question and investigate whether or not the lack of educational opportunities contribute to these achievement gaps and ultimately limit the students’ human capabilities. In order to provide the most relevant and neutral information on this topic, I will be specifically be using research conclusions from Rumberger (2010), No Longer Separate Not Yet Equal, Heckman and LaFontaine (2010), and a variety of other sociological sources. Any feedback or comments would be greatly appreciated!

Morell21 (talk) 16:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

That seems like an excellent plan. Let us know when you'd like to get feedback on the article, I can help with preparing for a GA level submission by doing a B-class review. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:48, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
I see from your comments elsewhere that this part of of a class project. Can you link to your class wiki page WP:SUP/WP:USEP or such)? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:18, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Expanding gentrification article

I am planning on expanding the Gentrification article in the coming weeks and would really appreciate ideas from the sociology project community. Gentrification is accepted as a fairly universal concept, and is rated high on its importance to the content of Wikipedia. The existing article is an effort to encompass the complexity of gentrification theory, causes, and examples, but it is rated C-class in quality by both of the Wikiprojects Urban Studies and Planning as well as Sociology. This discrepancy between high importance and low quality certainly needs to be eradicated with revisions and expansions on the topic. I want to give this article a larger focus on the causes and effects of gentrification, for those are the aspects of the process that are actually visible in so many places around the world. The inclusion of two more extensive examples of gentrification will also enable the process to be understood and applied more clearly. I believe . Its study is integral to understanding our changing world. Some researchers I will draw my research from include Peter Smith, Neil Williams, Loretta Lees, and P.A. Redfern. I will be making my revisions in the coming weeks-- stop by and let me know what you think! --Lggernon (talk) 06:01, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I see from your comments elsewhere that this part of of a class project. Can you link to your class wiki page WP:SUP/WP:USEP or such)? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:17, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage ready for community feedback

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage, an RFC that will affect the title of the articles currently titled Support for the legalization of abortion and Opposition to legal abortion if consensus is found in favor of its conclusions, is now in its community feedback phase and ready for editors to register opinions and arguments. Please add your feedback; thanks! —chaos5023 (talk) 15:49, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

A very important issue, which may determine the framing of those topics in the long run. I wish we had more members of ASA sections on social movement, gender, and such. Sadly... we don't. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:17, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Portal:Society at peer review

Portal:Society is now up for portal peer review, the review page is at Wikipedia:Portal peer review/Society/archive1. I've put a bit of effort into this as part of a featured portal drive related to portals linked from the top-right corner of the Main Page, and feedback would be appreciated prior to featured portal candidacy. Thank you for your time, — Cirt (talk) 02:42, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

With all due respect to editrs involved... who reads portals? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:41, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Categorization

User:Euroflux (Special:Contributions/Euroflux is making (sometimes sweeping) changes to categories that fall under this projects, including adding non-standard sortkeys (01, 02, etc). I don't know enough of sociology to judge whether these changes are warranted or not, but given the problems that the same user caused in other areas, I think it would be good if someone from this project would have a look. Thanks. --Guillaume2303 (talk) 12:18, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Freedom of speech = New WikiProject

Hi there, I'm notifying this WikiProject due to its relevance to Freedom of speech. I've recently gone ahead and created WP:WikiProject Freedom of speech. If you're interested, here are some easy things you can do:

  1. List yourself as a participant in the WikiProject, by adding your username here: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Freedom_of_speech#Participants.
  2. Add userbox {{User Freedom of speech}} to your userpage, which lists you as a member of the WikiProject.
  3. Tag relevant talk pages of articles and other relevant pages using {{WikiProject Freedom of speech}}.
  4. Join in discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Freedom of speech.
  5. Notify others you think might be interested in Freedom of speech to join the WikiProject.

Thank you for your interest in Freedom of speech, — Cirt (talk) 22:33, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Barefoot#Going_barefoot

There is an editwar presently taking place on one of the sociology projects...and it is making a mess of an otherwise good section of this wiki project. Would anyone be willing to babysit these editors with me? Quite frankly this is embarrassing. --Sue Rangell[citation needed] 23:23, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

This appears to be handled. Thanx. --Sue Rangell[citation needed] 22:29, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Portal:Society for featured portal consideration

I've nominated Portal:Society for featured portal candidacy, discussion is at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Society. Thank you for your time, — Cirt (talk) 22:22, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Is there anybody who maintains this portal on a regular basis? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 22:53, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Discussion to restore sociological basis content to Alternative medicine article using sources Annals of New York Academy of Sciences, etc.

A discussion involving restoring content from scientific sources describing the sociological basis of the rise of alternative medicine, as in the lede of this version, such as based on the article The rise and rise of complementary and alternative medicine: a sociological perspective in the Medical Journal of Australia, and from the article ANTISCIENCE TRENDS IN THE RISE OF THE ‘ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE’ MOVEMENT in the special edition, The Flight from Science and Reason, of the Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences, and and the Medical Journal of Australia article is now going on here. ParkSehJik (talk) 02:57, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

College and university dating

College and university dating, an article that your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article. AIRcorn (talk) 11:44, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Editing the Sociology of race and ethnic relations page

This entry is said to need the attention of an expert. I believe I qualify as one since my name features in the entry. I am a past president of the relevant section of the International Sociological Association. I intend to try and recruit other members of that section to join me in improving this article and making it more international. Michael Banton

Bantonmp (talk) 08:44, 1 December 2012 (UTC)bantonmp

I will be making rather large contributions to the Rural poverty page, as it currently does not meet Wikipedia's quality standards nor does it have sufficient citations verifying its contents. I plan to thoroughly define and discuss the concept of rural poverty, as well as provide a more global perspective on this issue than is provided in the current article. Rural poverty constitutes a disproportionate amount of global poverty in general and there is a large body of literature discussing this topic, thus meriting its recognition and discussion on Wikipedia. Because this is such a broad topic, however, I would appreciate any feedback on my contributions. I will have a draft of my potential contributions in my sandbox in the coming weeks. colleenfugate (talk) 03:08, 9 November 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.7.234.167 (talk)

You may want to work in mainspace rather than sandbox for all but test edits. In sandbox you won't get any comments from other editors on your work. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 16:24, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Proposed merger of Activism and Activism Industry

I have proposed that Activism and activism industry should be merged. Since these articles are under the scope of this WikiProject, some of you may be interested in discussing this merger. If so, go here. --The Kakistocrat (talk) 01:51, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 December 1#British Underclass

Just a quick note to let you know of the above discussion. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:49, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Assistance requested at White privilege

Hi,

There are a number of ongoing disputes over elements of White privilege. Since this article is a part of this WikiProject, I am hoping there might be some editors who can assist with sorting things out. -- UseTheCommandLine (talk) 07:35, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Notice of Peer Review Request

Peer review has been requested and reviews will be appreciated for the article Globalization. Meclee (talk) 14:51, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

RfC/U regarding an editor's alleged behavior at White privilege

This is intended simply to notify others on this wikiproject of an ongoing RfC/U, stemming from events that have occured over the last several months at White privilege, a page which is of interest to this wikiproject.

The link for the RfC is here.

-- UseTheCommandLine (talk) 02:16, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Case study

Questions of scope and some concerns about possible content duplication have been raised on the Medicine Project talk page. Cheers, —81.151.194.238 (talk) 20:08, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Project trends

See graphs.PS. If anyone wants the dataset, email me for it, I am happy to share. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:23, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
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Poverty article (needs update)

I came here to ask help with a glaring deficiency in the Poverty article. The first and very large section in the article, called Measuring Poverty has many graphs and other data that are almost all out of date, mostly around 2006! They haven't been updated in years and it would be nice if someone could share updated material on the article or show me the best place to get them and I can edit them myself.

Thank you. Nicehumor (talk) 23:42, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Article:Germans

There is currently a quite heated discussion at Talk:Germans about whether to exclude Marx and Einstein from the photo-collage in the inforbox for Germans. This has raised questions about the definitions of ethnicity/nationality and how Germans should be defined in the article. Please join the discussion if you you have an informed opinion or something else of value to add to it. With regards, Iselilja (talk) 16:03, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Sociology#Definition

How to define sociology? Please consider participating in the discussion at Talk:Sociology#Definition. Thanks! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 19:55, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Progressive utilization theory

Greetings! I have recently relisted a requested move discussion at Talk:Progressive utilization theory#Requested move, regarding a page relating to this WikiProject. Discussion and opinions are invited. Thanks, Tyrol5 [Talk] 02:52, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Speech

This article could use some improvements. I've been working on formatting and standardization, but additional research from experts would be appreciated. Cheers, — Cirt (talk) 22:45, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

RM of Maker subculture to Maker culture

FYI: Pointer of an in-scope discussion elsewhere.

Participants in this project may be interested a requested move of Maker subculture to Maker culture, at Talk:Maker subculture#Requested move. — SMcCandlish  Talk⇒ ɖכþ Contrib. 18:55, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Called

A husband and wife relationship is called a marriage. What is a boyfriend-girlfriend relationship called? Pass a Method talk 15:15, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Usually a dating relationship, which is a common modern type of the courting relationship. Also see cohabitation, intimate relationship. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:27, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
Romantic relationship works too. BigJim707 (talk) 19:19, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

New AfD

Should category traditional knowledge be listed in category knowledge?

Your comments welcome at Category talk:Traditional knowledge#RFC: Should category traditional knowledge be listed in category knowledge?. Dmcq (talk) 11:16, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

AfD at Definitions of Pogrom

Hi everyone, we'd be grateful for your thoughts at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Definitions of Pogrom. Oncenawhile (talk) 18:35, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Makeover of 'Enslaved Women in the Colonial North America and the U.S.' article

This article is currently start-class, and I plan to make the subject my research project for the duration of this semester. The majority of the article at this point is arbitrary examples from slavery in the U.S., so I plan on reorganizing these examples into a separate section and adding additional sections with general information about women in slavery in the colonial Americas. I want to expand the article from it's focus on the U.S. to both American continents, so I will be including sections on violence, gender paradigms, and sex ratios among slaves to serve as general information that is representative of the whole region of the Americas in colonial times. I also intend to add two specific examples of slave life for women in two countries; Brazil and Jamaica. These examples will also serve to broaden the focus of the article. Some sources I plan to cite from include Women and slavery vol. 2 edited by Gwyn Campbell, Suzanne Miers, Joseph C. Miller, Laboring women : reproduction and gender in New World slavery by Jennifer L. Morgan, and Slavery, Freedom, and Gender by Moore, Higman, Campbell, Bryan. I would be grateful for any ideas on other credible sources that may be useful to this topic.

If there are any specific suggestions about aspects of this topic I should include while working on this article they would be greatly appreciated. I would also appreciate any general history research hints, because I'm no history major!


Lggernon (talk) 06:10, 5 March 2013 (UTC) Lggernon (talk) 17:35, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

I'll leave some comments on the talk page. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:28, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Editing the 'Motherhood penalty' article

I am going to expand and revise upon the Wikipedia article “Motherhood penalty”. I will specifically be focusing on the perceived cultural tension between mothers and workers as well as employer bias, discrimination, and the effects of the motherhood penalty. Addressing the motherhood is penalty is important because it impacts the future success and equality of women, specifically mothers in the workforce. Women should not have to bear the penalty or burden of having children and a family. Women already face inequality in the workforce seen through lower wages and lower number of women leadership positions. Being a mother on top of being a woman compounds that inequality. Acknowledging and awareness of the presence of the implicit bias towards mothers is the fist step towards changing this discrimination and inequality that currently exists. I would like to add sections on effects of the motherhood penalty, causes of the motherhood penalty, and employer bias. I plan to draw on case studies the work of Deborah Anderson, Melissa Binder, Michelle Budig, Paula England, and Shelley Correll. I would appreciate any comments or feedback.Mmcolson (talk) 18:23, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Good idea, although it's not my subfield, so I cannot offer much literature suggestions. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:33, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Potential additions to the Emotional labor article

In hopes of expanding the depth and legitimacy of Wikipedia, I would like to further develop the article entitled “Emotional Labor.” I would like to add research-based conclusions from sociological research journals, such as work completed by Arlie Hochschild, R. Leidner, and S.H. Lopez. Along with adding research-based conclusions, I would also like to connect these theoretical concepts to specific examples of emotional labor with the current labor market. Besides having mediocre ratings based on Wikipedia standards while also missing substantial amounts of important information, the importance of the article’s subject matter merits its expansion. Most people hope to be an effective and successful member of the workforce. However, being an effective member of the workforce does not only require having the necessary individual qualifications. Success also requires understanding how the workforce operates as an institution. The concept of emotional labor is a theoretical concept first theorized by Arlie Hochschild that brings a specific and important understanding of the workforce to light. Specifically, as the American economy shifts from a manufacturing to a service economy, control of one’s emotions based on companies’ standards have become so important that emotions have become a commodity in and of themselves. Essentially, I think understanding how emotional labor works ultimately leads to a better understanding of the labor force more generally. I would greatly appreciate any feedback or suggestions on any potentially useful resources.

Morell21 (talk) 19:28, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Good idea, although it's not my subfield, so I cannot offer much literature suggestions. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:36, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Expansion of "Sterilization (medicine)" article

As part of a class project, my partner and I want to revise the "Sterilization (medicine)" article. Because the current article only mentions sterilization methods and psychological effects (which are well done by the way), we plan to add sections, some of which we've outlined below:

2. Affected populations-we'll look at which groups that tend to be sterilized and break down the populations into categories if there are relevant trends. Ex: Women who are sterilized vs. men who are sterilized; investigating whether certain races are more likely to participate in sterilization; etc. 2.1 Gender 2.2 Race 2.3 Socio-economic status

3. Effects-expanding this section to cover more than just psychological effects. 3.1 Physical 3.2 Psychological 3.3 Familial 3.4 Community and Beyond

4. Policies-investigating various historical and current policies surrounding sterilization 4.1 Compulsory (will be brief, as there is already a completed Wikipage on compulsory sterilization) 4.2 Incentivizing 4.3 Historical examples 4.4 Outcomes

We're especially interested in how sterilization affects women's status within families and the greater community. We target women specifically because of their substantial role in the childbearing and childrearing process. As much of our focus will be on social relationships, we believe that our page will appropriately fit within this WikiProject. We are open to feedback and constructive criticism about how we can best improve this article.

Several of our sources are studies that look into the relationship between family planning and sterilization (Abell 1987; Banerjee and Duflo 2011; Short, Linmao and Wentao 2000) as well as relations between men and women regarding sterilization (Char, Saavala and Kulmala 2009). Many of our sources look at the familial and social consequences of sterilization (Calvo, 1991; Zhao and Rao, 1997)

Mariapickett (talk) 21:44, 5 March 2013 (UTC) and ThatRavengirl

Hmmm, that's a very interesting topic. I'll be looking forward to reading your work. I'd suggest a section on sterilization in fiction, there are some anti-utopias that dealt with that subject. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:41, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Revising Domestic worker article

I am proposing some revisions to the page Domestic Worker. I would like to contribute to this article by adding and developing information to the page that focuses on the sociological effects that domestic work has on workers especially with a focus on women. I would like to examine some of the positive and negative social effects of working in the domestic work sector. Some examples of effects I would like to include are the potential limitations of social mobility that the domestic work sector might have as well as the positive effects the domestic work sector can have on women’s lives by giving them access to employment. I plan to use as a few of my sources a few articles from the Feminist Economics journal by Deborah Levison and Nadia Zibani, Christina Carrasco and Marius Dominguez, and Meryl Altman and Kerry Pannell. I would love some advice on other sources that I could look into as well as any general advice on where I can focus my research and revisions for this page. Thank you for your help! Victoria.delgado (talk) 09:45, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

A major topic, and a very poor article. I will be looking forward to your work! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:43, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Revising Low enrollment of women in Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics Education and Careers article

As part of a class project, I plan to revise the Low enrollment of women in Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics Education and Careers article and retitle it "Women in STEM (United States)". According to the notice at the top of the article page, this article is currently written “like a personal reflection or essay” and needs to be rewritten in encyclopedic style. While I do not plan to rewrite the entire article, I do plan to add a substantial amount of information and to possibly restructure and revise parts of the existing article. In particular, I wish to discuss the social, structural, and psychological factors that help explain the low numbers of women in STEM fields. Wikipedia:WikiProject Sociology's stated purpose is to provide support for members interested in improving coverage of sociology on Wikipedia. There have been a number of articles written about the obstacles that women face in male-dominated occupations such as the ones in STEM fields. Many of my additions will focus on social psychological phenomena like stereotype threat and the Pygmalion effect, as well as social and structural phenomena like discrimination and the leaky pipeline. In revising this article, I hope to give a comprehensive overview of the current state of Women in STEM careers while addressing many of the current issues with the existing article. I would appreciate any feedback and look forward to contributing to this project. Naomi FK (talk) 13:18, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

An interesting topic. Name wise, I am not sure if Women in STEM (United States) would not bee too technical. I recommend you try a WP:RM procedure for a wider discussion. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:45, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Creation of African American Family Structure article

For a school project, I will be expanding the African American Family Structure Section on the Family structure in the United States article by creating an additional article on African American family styles and linking it back to the original article and section. Currently, there is not much information on the African American family style besides the article on Black matriarchy. While black matriarchy is a component of African American Family Styles, it does not cover all forms of African American families in the United States. I plan to expand on other forms of African American families in the United States, provide historical context for these family styles and discuss some of the consequences of the current trends in African American family styles. Specifically, I will be discussing how the African American family structure arose, the rise in African American divorces, and the effects of single-parent homes. I will also be discussing how the African American family structure lends to poverty, teen pregnancy and other negative outcomes. I will be using scholarly articles on the topic from varied published journals including the Feminist Economist Journal and the American Sociologist Review. I feel that this topic is related to Sociology and is in guidelines with the current WikiProject Sociology goals of documenting sociological concepts in the U.S including family structure. I welcome any feedback or suggestions any of you may have for my article contribution and goals. B.chachere (talk) 19:43, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

As the instructor whose students wrote the original article, I'll be looking forward to your work! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:47, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Intention to edit "Circular Migration"

The current Circular Migration article is in need of improvement in several areas. Although it exists, it is referenced poorly, lacks details and links to other pages, has some citation errors, and omits crucial aspects of the issues. Upon first glance, the most striking thing is the pure lack of substantive and relevant information. The page has no table of contents and has only two sparse sections.The first sentence of the article lists many issues related to the topic of circular migration, but does not go into detail about any of them. Of the material that is present, most of it focuses solely on the United States. While circular migration involving the United States as a destination country is important, there are many other crucial areas of the issue that should be explored. The given example of Puerto Rico is interesting, but I believe that the example of Israel should be omitted. Many international examples provide a greater context and more in-depth understanding of the topic, including circular migration both between countries and within a country between urban and rural areas. Furthermore, the current article presents little information on other facets of circular migration, such as healthcare, women, global policy, and international development. I would like to provide an overview of the issue and its statistics, do an in-depth analysis of both the costs and benefits of circular migration, and include information on the aforementioned facets of the topic. I intend to edit this article, using sources from the International Labor Review, International Migration, scholars such as Connelly, Gidwani, Newland, and reports by the International Organization for Migration. I would greatly appreciate any suggestions that you all may have, in terms of content, organization, or additional sources! I hope to make this article as strong as possible. Twoods158 (talk) 22:46, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Good idea, although it's not my subfield, so I cannot offer much literature suggestions. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:47, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Leaving the criminal world after 21 yrs,15 yrs of them spent in prison

My name is Toby, which i found out is not common name for a criminal. In the 19 mostly top security prisons there was never another Toby. I was born a thief just like the other 60 thousand inmates currently locked up. There are so many ways to prove the thief gene is true, it skips a generation. I had an awful childhood and not the police or any other authority scared me more than my father who hated stealing but still i stole from the age of 8, it just felt natural. my mother was a different story. When i was serving a 6 year sentence i used to get home leaves (even though i had no home) and sneak round and see her and she was always fine with it, i then served an 8 year term a 5yr 6 mth term and 7 small sentences. in 06 i got out. if they had said i could of stayed i would have, it"s my home. So i went straight, my mum died on that 6yr term so i have had no family for over 20 years. I have been out 7 years in 3 days time. I have so much to give because i have done it all, i was involved in criminal activity inside the prisons for 11 years, spent a year in solitary confinement the lot. i find people don"t want to know the truth and i feel like i don"t fit in. This is the first time i have used the internet. I found out 4 years ago that my mother was a criminal in with the Kray Twins before she got out, so there is the gene. There is no proper and correct after care for released prisoners. People need to no the truth. HMP Billy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.223.126.243 (talk) 14:58, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Please note Wikipedia is not a general discussion or a self-help forum. Perhaps you should talk about your experiences with somebody like Michael G. Santos. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:47, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Issue with social issue

The social issue article was recently nominated AfD, being threatened with deletion due to its rather poor quality. While it survived this nomination, the article still needs some substantial assistance. I presume that social issues are rather central to the field of sociology and figured that it should be mentioned here; it would certainly benefit from some expert attention. Buddy23Lee (talk) 20:54, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

They are. This project however has as far as I know no more than three real sociologists, and <10 semi-active users. We have dozens of key, top importance topics to work on, and while I welcome you listing this issue here, please don't expect any swift action. I'll try to get on this sometime this decade. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:49, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
Certainly an unfortunate situation but good to know. I believe that even if someone with just a modest knowledge of sociology could briefly scan the article and correct just the most glaring issues, it might be enough. Laymen like myself could do the rest, such as the tedium of finding citations and the like. Either way, thanks for the attention. Buddy23Lee (talk) 17:08, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
Took a quick look at it. The article is in pretty sad shape, in my opinion, from the title on down. Mostly an eclectic list of various social problems. The editors who suggested WP:TNT may have it right on this one... I agree, though, that it is an important topic for this WP. Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 17:39, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Templates needing development

I have been browsing through WP:VA to find articles in need of navboxes. The two sociologists that jumped out were {{Max Weber}} and {{Émile Durkheim}}. Feel free to drop by and help me make these cleaner and more robust.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:24, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Stranger danger

This page recently suffered some vandalism. I looked at the page and some of admonitions to children are poorly phrased. I looked at the original (start-up) page and saw that it was about wearing seat belts. I'm not certain whether the message has been mangled or not.--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 02:41, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Community management

Community management may be a term used traditionally in sociology but in the past years it has become a popular term and even a job description, related with online communities. Probably most people searching for "community management" in Wikipedia will be surprised when finding the article as it is written today. What to do? See Talk:Community_management. Your advice is welcome. Thank you!--QuimGil (talk) 04:31, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Requested help

Hello, I'd like some input here at Goth subculture. We are discussing a section regarding violence against members of the culture. Sephiroth storm (talk) 16:33, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Fuck (film), freedom of speech-related quality improvement project

As part of a quality improvement project on a topic related to freedom of speech, I've greatly expanded upon and improved the quality of the article at page, Fuck (film). Any further suggestions for additional secondary sources and referencing would be appreciated, at the article's talk page. — Cirt (talk) 20:19, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Any sources for the Safety-valve institution

I tried to write a new sociology DYK, but can't find enough sources to expand it into a DYK. Not so much as a single good theoretical discussion of this topic. Anyone? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:16, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Lack of sociologists participating in WikiProject Sociology

Sad to see so few sociologists helping out with Wikipedia, especially compared to the physical sciences. I think for myself, it is daunting to create an article after doing some reading about speedy deleters on Wikipedia and the need for extensive citations. I don't want to start an article only to have it deleted because it doesn't meet the standards of a random, drive-by reviewer. 63.143.224.144 (talk) 23:33, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Dear anon, I certainly agree it would be nice to have more than ~3 active sociologists here. The speedy deletions on Wikipedia are hardly worse or more common than useless, bad reviews in our traditional peer review lottery. You can also always ask for your deleted to content to be userfied (restored to you as a draft). But if you want to make sure your content will be safe when it is created, simply create an account and start working on it in a WP:SANDBOX, then submit it here for a review and I or another member will provide you feedback. Regarding referencing, no more is required than for an average academic paper, although high quality content to be displayed on the front page often has higher standards. Ping me if you need any help, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:51, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
Also a simple start: what article would you like to create? --QuimGil (talk) 05:47, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi Anon. It might also help to keep in mind that becoming a valued wikipedia contributor does not just mean creating articles. It is just as important to have people making improvements to existing articles and monitoring the contributions of others. This might make wikipedia involvement seem a little less onerous (you could become a 'drive-by reviewer' yourself). Cheers Andrew (talk) 07:01, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

RfC: Should the section title for Academic freedom controversy be changed?

There is an RfC here Talk:Hans-Hermann_Hoppe#RfC:_Should_the_section_title_for_Academic_freedom_controversy_be_changed.3F concerning the article on Hans-Hermann Hoppe. There is extensive background discussion elsewhere on the talk page there. SPECIFICO talk 02:22, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Note: I have revised the section heading here to reflect what the RfC title is and modified the link to create a Wikilink. – S. Rich (talk) 14:28, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Sociology category tree project page up for deletion

I noticed that Sociology category tree has been nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sociology category tree. This is a project-class page and was graded as of high importance to WikiProject Sociology. You may wish to comment. --Mark viking (talk) 03:25, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Note: It's not the tree...
Click the "►" below to see all subcategories:
... but the article 'about' the tree that is nominated for deletion. Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 09:44, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Have added the tree under 'Categories' on the WP:Sociology front page. DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 09:52, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Underground culture

Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Underground culture has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 04:27, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Hierarchical relation between protests and activism

Currently, Category:Protests by type is a subcat to Category:Activism by method (in process of being renamed to Category:Activism by type). This implies that protest is a category of a more general term, activism - but shouldn't it be the other way around? Is all protest a form of activism? Or is all activism a form of protest? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:15, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

I would think, for classification purposes, that all protest a form of activism. In practice, the two are probably synonymous. However, with some forms of activism, what is being protested is sometimes unclear. For example, recent activism in Turkey seems to be protesting a variety of issues. Meclee (talk) 17:08, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
I agree, activism seems more general than protest. Environmental activism includes protests but also includes litigation, lobbying, buying up land you don't want developed (e.g. Nature Conservancy), recycling, etc. --Mark viking (talk) 17:25, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Fuck peer review

  1. Fuck (film)
  2. Wikipedia:Peer review/Fuck (film)/archive1

I've listed the article Fuck (film) for peer review.

Help with furthering along the quality improvement process would be appreciated, at Wikipedia:Peer review/Fuck (film)/archive1.

Cirt (talk) 00:36, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Cooperative WikiProject

WikiProject Globalization, with assistance from Outlines WikiProject, has drafted an Outline of globalization. We welcome your input, additions, and comments. Meclee (talk) 17:03, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

AfC submission

This submission might be of interest to you. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 15:18, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

The above article has some references and some information, although it is filled with jargon and may need to be rewritten to be understandable by people who aren't sociologists. However, there is an existing article Interactionism which is entirely unsourced. Are these two discrete topics? —Anne Delong (talk) 19:22, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

There is also Symbolic interactionism, which seems more focused on the social psychology aspects of interaction that Articles for creation/Interaction theory is concerned with. --Mark viking (talk) 19:32, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Should the first two (or all three) articles be merged? Or, since the second has been unsourced since 2008, should it just be deleted? —Anne Delong (talk) 21:34, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Reliable source usage

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Asian Americans#Asian American interracial trope. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 02:05, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Horrible Histories

Hi. We're having a discussion on the fate of Horrible Histories TV show at: Horrible Histories (2009 TV series)#Moving on. As a relevant Wikiproject, we would greatly appreciate it if you would voice your opinion on the talk page, or to have a crack at editing and improving it. Thankyou for your time. :)--Coin945 (talk) 13:22, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

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Global society

The stub Global society will end-up with content about what society would look like under global governance in a world where Global citizenship prevails. I wonder if it is worth its own article or should be redirected to Global citizenship? Thoughts? Regards, Meclee (talk) 21:21, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

See Talk:Global society#Redirect?. Max51 (talk) 00:51, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Category:Women sociologists

Category:Women sociologists has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Meclee (talk) 23:45, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

I weighed in. By the way, Category:Men sociologists has also been nominated as well at Category:Men sociologists debate. 69.125.134.86 (talk) 20:40, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Case for a proper article on socializing (as in to socialize with others)

Hello all,

might I bother you to have a look at this overlapping subject at Project Psychology and maybe state your opinion on it?

So far, there exists only a redirect to "Socialization" under the lemma, which is covering many aspects of socialization except socializing and going a different route. This may be a strong case for an article on Socializing in its own right.

TIA, --217.81.163.66 (talk) 11:24, 2 August 2013 (UTC) (long-term ethical IP by choice)

Commented at this overlapping subject. Regards, Meclee (talk) 21:17, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Article creation request for Southern Sociological Society

Could someone please assist in the creation of an article for the Southern Sociological Society? Sladelellock (talk) 19:27, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

question: where is the article being created? Regards,Meclee (talk) 21:18, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

I would guess nowhere, I.e. it may be a request to create it. If so, I'd ask for sources and proof of notability. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:29, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

This is indeed a request to create the article. I can provide sources and proof of notability. Sladelellock (talk) 15:15, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

@User:Sladelellock: In such a case I'd encourage you to start a draft of the article, and I and others will be happy to offer guidance. Still, creating a stub is not that difficult - see Wikipedia:Your first article. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:26, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
@User:Piotrus: I'm concerned there will be a conflict of interest if I create the article. I work very closely with this organization. This has been disclosed on my user page. In this case, would you still recommend creating the article myself? Sladelellock (talk) 12:27, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
@User:Sladelellock:I see. Hmmm, I don't think it should be an issue. But let's do it like this: create a draft in your userspace (see WP:DRAFT), ping me on my talk when it is ready for a review, and I'll review it for any COI and if it is fine, than move it to mainspace. FYI, I am not worried about COI/POV issues, but about potential lack of notability (see WP:COMPANY which also covers non-profit NGOs, through not very well). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:34, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

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How can coverage of sociological topics be improved on Wikipedia?

It's really dreadful right now, especially compared to the physical and natural sciences. And the "most popular" articles aren't dealing with sociological concepts, ideas and practices but topics that fall under Wikipedia's "Society" category. The sociological articles I've seen dealing with sociology 101 subjects need complete rewrites.

Are there just very few people working on this Project now? How can this change? Could we get some college classes helping out to write articles so that at least the basics theories and methods are covered? Newjerseyliz (talk) 19:58, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Request for comment: Keeley Hazell biography being linked to pornography portal.

There is currently a discussion, here, on whether Keeley Hazell ought to have a link to the pornography portal.--The Vintage Feminist (talk) 12:23, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Proposal to split Football hooliganism

Hello WikiProject Sociology. I've created a split proposal at Talk:Football hooliganism#Proposal to split. Please comment over there, especially to notify any objections. (I won't proceed if there are many.) --Stfg (talk) 16:00, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Strategic Choice Theory

I find the definiton (and only content) in this article very unsatisfying. Would someone look at it and see if the article can be improved or whether it should be deleted? Regards, Iselilja (talk) 20:58, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

I rewrote the article (still a stub) based on a 1997 review by Child. The subject looks notable. --Mark viking (talk) 01:16, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Kudos for acting on this promptly, this doesn't happen often around here - I hope it's a sign of change! :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:30, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Yes, thanks for taking care of this. (I have also experienced that talk page questions relatively often go without response,, so nice to see a response here). Regards, Iselilja (talk) 16:33, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Discussion of terminology ("survivor", "victim", etc) at Rape culture

There is a discussion about the use of terminology at Rape culture that has, I think, larger implications for how rape is discussed on-wiki. The dispute revolves around these edits. Additional input would be welcome. Posting here because the article is noted on its talk page as being of interest to this WIkiProject. -- UseTheCommandLine ~/talk ]# ▄ 10:06, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

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Jet set article

The Jet set article falls under WikiProject Sociology so I'm asking here: would this article benefit from demographic information? I found a report by Elite Traveler entitled "The New Jet Set - a psychographic analysis of luxury spending" which contained information regarding the private jet owners' income levels, which are extraordinary. As a reader I was unfamiliar with such information prior to reading the report. I tried to incorporate it into the article, but another editor reverted it. Please comment at Talk:Jet_set, thank. Shawnc (talk) 00:54, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Of course, this seems like a nice addition. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:28, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Manuel Mora y Araujo

Hello sociologists! This submission has been waiting in the Afc for two weeks. Would anyone like to review it? —Anne Delong (talk) 21:40, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

It's declined now. —Anne Delong (talk) 12:53, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Proposed Article on Family Planning in Sub Saharan Africa

I am planning on writing a new article titled "Family Planning in Sub Saharan Africa" for a Poverty, Justice, and Human Capabilities course that I am taking at Rice University. I am planning on focusing on a few countries, and I will add links to these countries to the current "Family Planning" page under the "Policy" subsection. The countries that I have chosen are Ethiopia, Ghana, South Africa, and Tanzania. I chose those countries to focus on because from the research I have done, there is the most information available about those countries and/or they are places where fertility rates and maternal death rates are highest. Does anyone have any suggestions for alternate or additional countries to include? In the sections about each country, I am planning to include information on availability of birth control and social factors that impact family planning in addition to other basic statistics on maternal and child mortality rates. I am also planning to include data from studies that have been done on family planning issues in those countries. My sources will consist of scholarly articles and possibly newspaper articles. There will be a full list of the sources I have used in my preliminary research and more information about this project on my home page. Any feedback about this project would be appreciated. Thank you.Juliannadrew (talk) 06:26, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Juliannadrew. Welcome to WikiProject Sociology! A potentially big topic. Have you reviewed already-existing, related articles such as Birth control in Africa? That article was the focus of someone from Rice University in the spring. Regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 20:28, 7 October 2013 (UTC)


New Article: Migrant Workers in China

I'm a student at Rice University, and I'm planning on writing a new article on Migrant Workers in China for a course: Education Program:Rice University/Poverty, Justice, Human Capabilities, Section 2 (Fall 2013)
I hope to provide an overview, go over the history and origins, cover major factors, and discuss the different impacts of the phenomenon. If you have any comments, suggestions, or revisions, please let me know!

1. Overview
2. History and Origins
3. Factors

a. Economic
b. Social
c. Political
i. Hukou
ii. Other

4. Impact

a. Labor Supply
i. Domestic Work
ii. Factory Work
iii. Sex Work
b. Social
i. Gender Roles
ii. Class
iii. Health
iv. Education
v. Inequality

5. Theories for the Future
6. See Also
7. References
8. Further Reading

References: Chan, Chris King-Chi, and Pun Ngai. “The Making of a New Working Class? A Study of Collective Actions of Migrant Workers in South China.” The China Quarterly 198 (June 22, 2009): 287. doi:10.1017/S0305741009000319.
Chan, Jenny, and Ngai Pun. “Suicide as Protest for the New Generation of Chinese Migrant Workers: Foxconn, Global Capital, and the State.” The Asia-Pacific Journal 8, no. 37 (2010): 2–10.
Chan, Kam Wing, and Li Zhang. “The Hukou System and Rural-Urban Migration in China: Processes and Changes.” The China Quarterly 160 (1999): 818–855. doi:10.1017/S0305741000001351.
Connelly, Rachel, Kenneth Roberts, and Zhenzhen Zheng. “The Impact of Circular Migration on the Position of Married Women in Rural China.” Feminist Economics 16, no. 1 (2010): 3–41. doi:10.1080/13545700903382752.
Démurger, Sylvie, Marc Gurgand, Shi Li, and Ximing Yue. “Migrants as Second-class Workers in Urban China? A Decomposition Analysis.” Journal of Comparative Economics 37, no. 4 (December 2009): 610–628. doi:10.1016/j.jce.2009.04.008.
Fan, C. Cindy. China on the Move: Migration, the State, and the Household. Routledge, 2008.
Friedman, Eli. “Outside the New China | Jacobin.” Accessed September 26, 2013. http://jacobinmag.com/2013/09/outside-the-new-china/.
Froissart, Chloé. “Review of ‘China on the Move: Migration, the State and the Household’.” The China Quarterly 196 (January 12, 2009): 937. doi:10.1017/S0305741008001409.
Hesketh, Therese, Ye Xue Jun, Li Lu, and Wang Hong Mei. “Health Status and Access to Health Care of Migrant Workers in China.” Public Health Reports 123, no. 2 (2008): 189.
Ichimura, Shinichi. Decentralization Policies in Asian Development. World Scientific, 2008.
Keung Wong, Daniel Fu, Chang Ying Li, and He Xue Song. “Rural Migrant Workers in Urban China: Living a Marginalised Life: Rural Migrant Workers in Urban China.” International Journal of Social Welfare 16, no. 1 (January 2007): 32–40. doi:10.1111/j.1468-2397.2007.00475.x.
Knight, John, Lina Song, and Jia Huaibin. “Chinese Rural Migrants in Urban Enterprises: Three Perspectives.” Journal of Development Studies 35, no. 3 (February 1999): 73–104. doi:10.1080/00220389908422574.
Knight, John, and Linda Yueh. “Job Mobility of Residents and Migrants in Urban China.” Journal of Comparative Economics 32, no. 4 (December 2004): 637–660. doi:10.1016/j.jce.2004.07.004.
Lee, Ching Kwan. “Review of Yan Hairong ‘New Masters, New Servants: Migration, Development and Women Workers in China’.” The China Quarterly 200 (December 16, 2009): 1099. doi:10.1017/S0305741009990713.
Wang, Feng, and Xuejin Zuo. “Inside China’s Cities: Institutional Barriers and Opportunities for Urban Migrants,” n.d.
Wing Chan, Kam, and Will Buckingham. “Is China Abolishing the Hukou System?” The China Quarterly 195 (2008): 582–606. doi:10.1017/S0305741008000787.
Zhao, Yaohui. “Labor Migration and Earnings Differences: The Case of Rural China.” Economic Development and Cultural Change 47, no. 4 (July 1999): 767–782. doi:10.1086/452431.
———. “The Role of Migrant Networks in Labor Migration: The Case of China,” n.d.
Zheng, Tiantian. Red Lights. Minneapolis: University of Minnesota Press, 2009.
Zhi, Huayong, Zhurong Huang, Jikun Huang, Scott D. Rozelle, and Andrew D. Mason. “Impact of the Global Financial Crisis in Rural China: Gender, Off-farm Employment, and Wages.” Feminist Economics 19, no. 3 (2013): 238–266. doi:10.1080/13545701.2013.809137.

GavinCross (talk) 20:06, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi GavinCross, Welcome to WikiProject Sociology! Have you checked out existing articles related to this topic, such as Migration in China? This covers some of the same territory. See also: Demographics of China. Rather than starting from scratch, it may be helpful to build on what already is included in Wikipedia. I see that you've left a message at WP:China, as well, which is good... I would also recommend that you leave a note at Talk:Migration in China, directing interested editors to one place to share their suggestions with you. Good luck! Regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 20:25, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your help! I've now edited the article Migration in China, adding a significant amount of new content. If you have time, let me know what you think of the edits. Thank you! GavinCross (talk) 02:43, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Editing the Black middle class page

Hello, my name is Saima Toppa and I am student at Rice University. As part of a Wikipedia course assignment for a Sociology course entitled, "Poverty, Justice, and Human Capabilities," I will be making substantial edits to the Black Middle Class Wikipedia page. I would love feedback on my edits to the page in the next couple of weeks as I believe the mission of Wikiproject Sociology directly aligns with the topic I am studying. This group connects most directly to themes of social stratification, class, and social mobility as it relates to the Black Middle Class.

Very briefly, the current article on “Black Middle Class” offers a sparse examination of literature on black mobility. I will preface the article with a definition of who precisely constitutes the “black middle class,” noting certain metrics such as education, wealth, home ownership, income, and occupation. Then, I will add a section on the history of the black middle class in the United States. I will also explain how certain government policies, particularly those implemented after the Civil Rights Era, allowed more blacks to obtain middle-class status.

Furthermore, I will add a detailed and comprehensive section on the social characteristics of the black middle class. My motive in this section is to illustrate how precisely black middle class experience differs from the white middle class through looking at shifts in family patterns, residential environment, and wealth. In one sub-section, I will focus on one realm of the black middle class experience—the neighborhood context—and investigate how racial segregation, shifting economic structures, and disproportionate black poverty affect the quality of life for the black middle class. I plan to use scholarly resources to explain why despite modest increases in wealth, societal and institutional factors constrain African American success.

Please provide me with feedback so the quality of this article can be further enriched! Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saimatoppa (talkcontribs) 13:44, October 4, 2012

Note: the current name for this article is African-American middle class. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:06, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Restructuring and Updating Racism in the United States

Hello! I am Regina Leslie, a student at Rice University. I intend to make extensive structural changes and contextual updates to the article Racism in the United States, as a cumulative assignment in my Poverty, Justice, and Human Capabilities course.

I have found that the current page is comprehensive, yet disorganized. As forms of discrimination continually evolve with transforming societal norms, I will provide a thorough understanding of the historical context, consequences, and systemic responses to this concept. Thus, I aim to provide a holistic and succinct summary of racial discrimination in the United States. My additions will be supplemented by reputable research, as accessed through Rice University.

Feel free to provide suggestions for improvements! I honestly will deeply respect and appreciate all thoughtful input!

jeanygina (talk) 20:00, 08 October 2013

Expect a number of other editors to pay attention to your edits; this is a topic of major interest to many. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:09, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Resegregation of U.S. Schools

I am a student at Rice University and would like to create a new Wikipedia entry entitled “Resegregation of U.S. Schools.” This would be an educational assignment for my Poverty, Justice, and Human Capabilities course. As participants in this WikiProject, do you believe that this article would be an appropriate contribution to the Sociology WikiProject?

This article will cite the trends in school desegregation/resegregation since the Supreme Court ruling in Brown v. Board of Education. It will then document the various potential causes of these trends including residential segregation, school choice policies, and court rulings that have reversed previous desegregation efforts. The article will then cite studies on the effects of segregated schools, including its effects on educational attainment and social wellbeing. Finally, the article will document the various policies proposed for reversing this trend (such as greater regulation of charter schools).

My sources for this Wikipedia will include articles from scholarly journals such as Education and Urban Society, the American Sociological Review, and the Journal of Policy Analysis and Management.

Any comments or feedback on this project would be greatly appreciated! Sallyhc42 (talk) 21:04, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi Sallyhc42, Welcome to WP:Sociology! An interesting idea. Before you get too far with it, I suggest that you look closely at already-existing, related articles on Wikipedia, including:
Also, I would recommend that you review Wikipedia's guidelines on original research. To avoid this pitfall, one thing that you might do is explore the extent to which resegregation of schools in the United States is an already established topic. If it is, then you're in good shape.
Note that an editor has flagged the section on Education in Racial segregation in the United States as being long enough to perhaps warrant spinning off a new article. This suggests the possibility of a single article, Segregation of schools in the United States that addresses trends over time, including the 'original' segregation, desegregation, and resegregation. Food for thought, anyway... Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 00:01, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
This article now appears to be: School segregation in the United States. Regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 10:29, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
Thank you so much for this feedback and for reviewing the article! I'm going to be making some more additions to it over the next week (adding some to the history section, adding "Effects" and "Policy proposals" sections, etc.). If you get a chance to take another look at it in a week or so, I would greatly appreciate it! Sallyhc42 (talk) 20:20, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Fuck featured article candidate discussion

Fuck (film) is a candidate for Featured Article quality — comments would be appreciated at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Fuck (film)/archive1.

Thank you for your time,

Cirt (talk) 18:08, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Change "antipositivism" to "interpretivism"

Hi all,

I've noticed that sociology pages on Wikipedia seem to have a preference for the term "antipositivism" over "interpretive sociology" as a description of sociological research. In contrast, in both historical and present-day published work, the latter term is (and has been) far more popular than the former. "Interpretive sociology" is used in the title of Weber's originating treatise ("Economy and society: An outline of interpretive sociology"). And a search through academic publications strongly suggests that the term "antipositivist sociology" is basically unused, "interpretivism" is used about 3 times more frequently than "antipositivism", while "interpretive sociology" is used far more than any other term for the topic.

Specifically, if we search for academic publications mentioning "antipositivist sociology" or "anti-positivist sociology", Google Scholar returns 15 publications and 20 publications, respectively. On the other hand, "interpretive sociology" returns over 8000 publications. Even if we exclude the usages of "interpretive sociology" which makes any reference to Weber, we are still left with over 1000 matches. The term "antipositivism" fares better, though it is still far less popular than "interpretivism". Compare the Scholar search for antipositivism sociology (without quotation marks), which produces 5000 matches, to interpretivism sociology (also without quotes), which returns 16300. Finally, interpretive sociology (without quotes) produces over 140000 matches.

Because of this, I propose the following changes:

  • Rename the Antipositivism article to "Interpretive sociology", after both Weber's original usage and usage in published work.
  • List "anti-positivism" as synonym, but generally give it lower priority than "interpretive sociology" or "interpretivism".
  • Change the section headings on the main Sociology page to use "interpretive sociology".
  • Make sure that most quick references or surface summaries use "interpretive sociology" over "antipositivism". The latter term should be reserved for longer discussions.

We should also consider merging Verstehen into the renamed "Interpretive sociology" article. It appears to be largely redundant.

What do you all think, folks?

- Darwin/Peacock [Talk] 01:34, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

comment: I don't see a problem with re-naming the Antipositivism article and merging, given the articles (all three) as they stand now. I will just comment that, classically, there has been a difference between all three, although they are certainly related. Regards, Meclee (talk) 21:11, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

  • Comment: A couple of points: i) Antipositivism is a stance not only in sociology, but as the article notes, across the social sciences (and even the humanities). ii) An important semiotic nuance may be involved: while antipositivism is a clear philosophical stance (against positivism), interpretivism may be more descriptive (without necessarily indicating a strong stance against positivism). Between the two, my preference is "interpretivism"; it does not have exactly the same meaning for me as "anti-positivism", however. Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 09:02, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Created category for Streisand effect

I've gone ahead and created the category for Category:Streisand effect.

Please feel free to populate it with related articles.

Discussion is welcome at Category talk:Streisand effect.

Thank you for your time,

Cirt (talk) 18:46, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

List of good articles

I see that the list of Good articles under 'Article assessment' here is substantially out of date. Perhaps that section should be removed altogether. At the very least it should be updated. Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 01:08, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

We can convert this to a bot-automated listing, see what I did recently at WP:POLAND. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:12, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your comment. Thinking about this more, I do not see the need for this extra material at all. One can generate such a list by clicking on the respective article class enumeration value in the assessment table. Please take a look at the Article assessment subpage and see what you think. Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 17:23, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

WP:SOCIO project pages

I've added tabs to the main and sub WP:SOCIO project pages, consolidating where necessary (e.g. three separate 'to do' lists merged into one). A couple of further steps remain:

  • Merge added material under the 'Assessment' heading on the main page with the 'Article assessment' subpage.
  • Create a 'Templates' subpage; move material under the 'Templates' heading on the main page to that subpage.
  • Add WP:SOCIO templates to the project subpages.

Suggestions, additions, comments most welcome! Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 16:59, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done. DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 00:49, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Social movements task force

I don't see any high-level reference to the WP:SOCIO Social Movements Task Force here. Where should this be mentioned? Should the WP template be updated with this as an option? Should a tab be added for that task force? Thanks for your suggestions, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 22:57, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

SM Task Force documentation added to WP:SOCIO template. DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 01:24, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Portal technology for featured candidacy

I've nominated Portal:Technology for featured candidacy. Comments would be appreciated, at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Technology. — Cirt (talk) 17:36, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

War rape

I was wondering if anyone would like to work on this article? In about a month, when the semester ends, I can work on this (and I have plenty of resources) but would like some help in sorting it out for WP.Lihaas (talk) 19:53, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Taskforce proposal

With the rise of protests around the world, I propose creating a TaskForce for Social movements to better organise and integrate (where appropriate) such movements. Heck, we may even people interested in the phenonmenon to be full time dedicated to this.(Lihaas (talk) 19:19, 30 November 2013 (UTC)).

Hi Lihaas, Thanks for your note. There already is one. Please see the 'Task force' tab at the top of this page or click here. Regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 21:59, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Heterophobia RfD

A discussion that may be of interest to members of this project is taking place at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 December 9#Heterophobia. - MrX 00:08, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Page reorganization

All, I've proposed a reorganization of Citizen science on its talk page. As this is my first experiment in reorganizing a page, I'm not sure of the process, whether a single page reorg requires a full WP:RFC. Since the page in question is listed on its talk page as affiliated with this Project, I thought I'd at least point to that discussion from here, so that folks here are aware. Please direct any comments on the reorg of the page to that talk page, and any advice on the process to my talk page. Thanks 1bandsaw (talk) 20:42, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Human body

Hi, there has been significant restructuring of the human body, human physiology and human anatomy articles over at WP:Anatomy, making the Human body article the main, offering opportunities for future expansion once significant information is available.

The Human body article current has a underdeveloped Society and culture section Human body#Society and culture, that would do very well with some help from this Wikiproject. Is there interest from here in expanding this section? If so please help out, and engage in the talk page of the article! CFCF (talk) 11:51, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Change Nature and nurture title back to Nature versus nurture?

Comments are needed on this matter this matter: Talk:Nature and nurture#Requested move -- Change title of article to back to Nature versus nurture?. Flyer22 (talk) 19:26, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

I would be particularly interested to know what the most authoritative sources on sociology prefer for terminology on this issue. I have been asking on the article talk page for citations for sources. I have provided several citations to sources that suggest that "nature and nurture," rather than "nature versus nurture," is the more commonplace term and the term preferred in professional usage (in the disciplines I follow most closely), thus suggesting that Nature and nurture would be the preferred article title by the WP:COMMONNAME policy on naming articles. I invite anyone who is familiar with reliable sources on sociology to join the article talk page discussion on the name of the article. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 00:12, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

WP Sociology in the Signpost

The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Sociology for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. –Mabeenot (talk) 02:12, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

List of gestures

Hello. List of gestures is tagged as a page of interest to this WikiProject. Could someone please take a look at edits between 2 January and 5 January? It is my feeling that user Keltillust is well-intentioned, but his edits don't quite match his source material. On the other hand, I am closer to edit-warring than I like to get, having reverted twice on 4 January. Cnilep (talk) 02:55, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

deadbeat parent

The name and scope of Deadbeat parent (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is under discussion, see talk:deadbeat parent -- 70.50.148.122 (talk) 06:23, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Fuck peer review, again

  1. Fuck: Word Taboo and Protecting Our First Amendment Liberties
  2. Wikipedia:Peer review/Fuck: Word Taboo and Protecting Our First Amendment Liberties/archive1

I've listed the article Fuck: Word Taboo and Protecting Our First Amendment Liberties for peer review.

Help with furthering along the quality improvement process would be appreciated, at Wikipedia:Peer review/Fuck: Word Taboo and Protecting Our First Amendment Liberties/archive1.

Thank you for your time,

Cirt (talk) 01:07, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Social Network Perception

Dear Sociologists: Is this a notable topic, and should this old abandoned Afc submission be kept? —Anne Delong (talk) 17:32, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Look like this was already deleted. --Mark viking (talk) 20:10, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, I never know how long a particular submission will last. Anyone who really wants to look at it can ask for a G13 refund by clicking on the link above and following the directions. —Anne Delong (talk) 21:55, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Notice of posting to TFA nominations

I've added Fuck (film) to TFA nominations, discussion is at Wikipedia:Today's_featured_article/requests#Fuck_.28film.29. — Cirt (talk) 22:34, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Devotional articles

Do we have any sociology of religion folks here? I wonder if you could recommend a better name, and any missing cites. I found two encyclopedias that mention this topic, but not a single good source like a book chapter or even one academic article focused on this concept. I wonder if I am not using the right search term? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:54, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Discussion on notability of Woozle effect

is taking place here: Talk:Woozle_effect#Notability, dear sociologists. — alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 13:47, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Woozle effect

Dear Sociologists, please join the discussion.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 17:13, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Wikiproject proposal

I'd like to invite members of this page to this discussion: Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Neutral Editors I think this group could help such a discussion. What is neutral and what can you do while remaining neutral. Thanks.Serialjoepsycho (talk) 01:42, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Main Page appearance: Fuck (film)

This is a note to let the main editors of Fuck (film) know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on March 1, 2014. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask Bencherlite (talk · contribs). You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/March 1, 2014. If it needs tweaking, or if it needs rewording to match improvements to the article between now and its main page appearance, please edit it, following the instructions at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/instructions. The blurb as it stands now is below:

Marketing poster

Fuck is a 2005 American documentary film by director Steve Anderson, which argues that the word is key to discussions about freedom of speech and censorship. The film provides perspectives from art, linguistics, society and comedy. Linguist Reinhold Albert Aman, journalism analyst David Shaw, language professor Geoffrey Nunberg and Oxford English Dictionary editor Jesse Sheidlower explain the term's history and evolution. The film features the last interview of author Hunter S. Thompson before his suicide. It was first shown at the AFI Film Festival at ArcLight Hollywood; it has subsequently been released on DVD in America and in the UK and used as a resource on several university courses. The New York Times critic A. O. Scott called the film a battle between advocates of morality and supporters of freedom of expression, while other reviews criticized its length and repetitiveness. Law professor Christopher M. Fairman commented on the film's importance in his 2009 book on the same subject. The American Film Institute said, "Ultimately, [it] is a movie about free speech ... Freedom of expression must extend to words that offend." (Full article...)

UcuchaBot (talk) 23:01, 11 February 2014 (UTC)


Above was posted to my user talk page, posting here as well. Cheers, — Cirt (talk) 23:20, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Not in Front of the Children

I've recently gone ahead and created an article about the book, Not in Front of the Children: "Indecency," Censorship, and the Innocence of Youth.

Help with suggestions for additional secondary sources would be appreciated at the article's talk page, at Talk:Not in Front of the Children: "Indecency," Censorship, and the Innocence of Youth.

Thank you for your time,

Cirt (talk) 01:28, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

More opinions needed

Please submit your comments regarding on-going discussions at Talk:Latin_peoples 79.117.160.159 (talk) 11:51, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Genocide definitions, Definitions of pogrom and Definitions of fascism for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Genocide definitions, Definitions of pogrom and Definitions of fascism are suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Genocide definitions until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Oncenawhile (talk) 09:53, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Albino persecution

Inioch (talk) 23:05, 20 February 2014 (UTC) Hi,

I must apologise if this is not the right area for raising this; I do appreciate that areas focused on information efficiency need to be efficient!

I was referred here by a helper on the chat page regarding a social article that I found both significant and incomplete: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Persecution_of_people_with_albinism&article_action=signup-edit

There are no recent links or references and the last details are around 4 years out of date, the only specific country being detailed is Tanzania in which progress seemed to be under way. Nothing outside Africa is even mentioned; I was wondering if this should be developed, so wanted to raise it as a question as I am very new to wiki editing and don't feel I could do it justice on my own.

I was linked here because of the migration of albinos to urban areas in the hope of reduced persecution but if anyone has a better place of reference, then please let me know!

Invitation to User Study

Would you be interested in participating in a user study? We are a team at University of Washington studying methods for finding collaborators within a Wikipedia community. We are looking for volunteers to evaluate a new visualization tool. All you need to do is to prepare for your laptop/desktop, web camera, and speaker for video communication with Google Hangout. We will provide you with a Amazon gift card in appreciation of your time and participation. For more information about this study, please visit our wiki page (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Finding_a_Collaborator). If you would like to participate in our user study, please send me a message at Wkmaster (talk) 01:25, 21 February 2014 (UTC).

Popular pages tool update

As of January, the popular pages tool has moved from the Toolserver to Wikimedia Tool Labs. The code has changed significantly from the Toolserver version, but users should notice few differences. Please take a moment to look over your project's list for any anomalies, such as pages that you expect to see that are missing or pages that seem to have more views than expected. Note that unlike other tools, this tool aggregates all views from redirects, which means it will typically have higher numbers. (For January 2014 specifically, 35 hours of data is missing from the WMF data, which was approximated from other dates. For most articles, this should yield a more accurate number. However, a few articles, like ones featured on the Main Page, may be off).

Web tools, to replace the ones at tools:~alexz/pop, will become available over the next few weeks at toollabs:popularpages. All of the historical data (back to July 2009 for some projects) has been copied over. The tool to view historical data is currently partially available (assessment data and a few projects may not be available at the moment). The tool to add new projects to the bot's list is also available now (editing the configuration of current projects coming soon). Unlike the previous tool, all changes will be effective immediately. OAuth is used to authenticate users, allowing only regular users to make changes to prevent abuse. A visible history of configuration additions and changes is coming soon. Once tools become fully available, their toolserver versions will redirect to Labs.

If you have any questions, want to report any bugs, or there are any features you would like to see that aren't currently available on the Toolserver tools, see the updated FAQ or contact me on my talk page. Mr.Z-bot (talk) (for Mr.Z-man) 05:27, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

RfC: Pogrom list inclusion criteria

An RfC has been opened at Talk:Pogrom, regarding the appropriate WP:LSC for the events listed. Comments are requested with thanks. Oncenawhile (talk) 11:45, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Healthy Equity Rework

Hi All,

Wanted to give a bit of an update on my proposed edits to the Health equity page. As I previously noted on the article's talk page, this page has a lot of room for improvement; the article focuses on the issue of health equity, only with regard to the United States. Given that health equity is a global issue, and Wikipedia is meant to be a comprehensive source of information with a worldwide view of any given subject, there is a lot of important content that is currently absent. I plan to rework the page, maintaining some of the current information and supplementing it with significantly more international content. Given that health inequities are often found across specific divisions in the population, I wish to approach the article and organize the content from this perspective. I will discuss the topics of gender, sexuality, location, socioeconomic status, and education, and how they relate to health equity worldwide (information for which I have a number of reputable sources). In the case of education for example, I will discuss the correlation of education with improvements in healthcare. In developing nations like Tajikistan, for example, a lack of higher education was correlated with lower contact with healthcare professionals, when it came to maternal health care. In this sense, education serves as an important determinant in population health. With regard to the information on the US, I will have to cut down some of the content from this article, and I am considering adding it to a new article specifically detailing Healthy Equity in the US. Thoughts on this addition would be appreciated.

Jpoles1 (talk) 04:55, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Group Development article wrongly categorized as relevant ... but could be relevant

The Wikipedia article Group_development is currently written purely from the perspective of research in social psychology, so I am tempted to say that linking it to the WikiProject Sociology is incorrect. However, if there are any theories from Sociology of how groups develop over time, I think that this would be a great contribution to the article! In fact, if you point me in the direction of some source materials, I would be happy to give it a first try. Jsarmi (talk) 19:27, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Planned Additions to Homelessness and Mental Health

Hello! I am a student at Rice University, updating the article Homelessness and mental health as a subset of my Human Development in Global and Local Communities course! Though the current article is a stub, it provides a useful framework for expansion. I plan to supplement this article with the historical, medical and social context of homelessness and mental health. I will primarily focus on the United States, yet I hope to expand on the international context of this issue. After overviewing large eras of legislative reform, I will expand on prevalent mental illnesses seen with the US homeless. I will also describe the social conditions that provoke or compound mental illness for the homeless. I will then overview societal consequences, such as incarceration and chronic homelessness. Lastly, I will expand on modern government and NGO responses. I’m excited to expand on this page, and I would love any input and suggestions as I work on it for the next couple months! Thanks!

jeanygina (talk) jeanygina 23:54, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Free Expression Policy Project

I've created an article on the organization Free Expression Policy Project.

Suggestions for additional secondary sources would be most appreciated, at Talk:Free Expression Policy Project.

Cheers,

Cirt (talk) 04:27, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Four-paragraph leads -- a WP:RfC on the matter

Hello, everyone. There is a WP:RfC on whether or not the leads of articles should generally be no longer than four paragraphs (refer to WP:Manual of Style/Lead section for the current guideline). As this will affect Wikipedia on a wide scale, including WikiProjects that often deal with article formatting, if the proposed change is implemented, I invite you to the discussion; see here: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Lead section#RFC on four paragraph lead. Flyer22 (talk) 14:04, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

List peer review for List of awards and nominations received by Penn & Teller: Bullshit!

I've started a list peer review for List of awards and nominations received by Penn & Teller: Bullshit!, feedback to further along the quality improvement process would be appreciated, at Wikipedia:Peer review/List of awards and nominations received by Penn & Teller: Bullshit!/archive1. — Cirt (talk) 11:27, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Rename Social network

I've posted a move request to rename the article Social network to Social network (social science). Discussion is here: Wikipedia:Requested_moves. Meclee (talk) 15:11, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Latin peoples article deletion

Article Latin peoples has been nominated for deletion. Please discuss. Diego (talk) 11:52, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Commented "Keep". Meclee (talk) 15:23, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Illustration for "conflict of interest"

There is a discussion at Talk:Conflict of interest#Illustration on whether an illustration should be added to the article. It could benefit from some additional input. Huon (talk) 22:24, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Fuck: Word Taboo and Protecting Our First Amendment Liberties for Featured Article

I've nominated Fuck: Word Taboo and Protecting Our First Amendment Liberties for Featured Article candidacy.

Comments would be appreciated, at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Fuck: Word Taboo and Protecting Our First Amendment Liberties/archive1.

Thank you for your time,

Cirt (talk) 05:33, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Fugitive slave

The usage, naming and scope of Fugitive slave (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is under discussion, see talk:Fugitive slave -- 70.50.151.11 (talk) 04:07, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Categorization–Elaboration Model in group diversity

Dear Sociology experts: This draft was created, but then never submitted to be added to the encyclopedia. Is this a viable topic, and are the references appropriate? —Anne Delong (talk) 03:49, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Featured List nomination for List of awards and nominations received by Penn & Teller: Bullshit!

  1. List of awards and nominations received by Penn & Teller: Bullshit!
  2. Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of awards and nominations received by Penn & Teller: Bullshit!/archive1

I've started a Featured List nomination for List of awards and nominations received by Penn & Teller: Bullshit!.

Participation would be appreciated, at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of awards and nominations received by Penn & Teller: Bullshit!/archive1.

Thank you for your time,

Cirt (talk) 15:28, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Created new article = Sex, Sin, and Blasphemy: A Guide to America's Censorship Wars

I've created a new article on the book, Sex, Sin, and Blasphemy: A Guide to America's Censorship Wars.

Help with researching additional secondary sources would be appreciated, at Talk:Sex, Sin, and Blasphemy: A Guide to America's Censorship Wars.

Cirt (talk) 08:58, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Fuck: Word Taboo and Protecting Our First Amendment Liberties promoted to Featured Article

Fuck: Word Taboo and Protecting Our First Amendment Liberties was promoted to Featured Article quality.

Thank you very much to all who helped with this successful quality improvement project related to freedom of speech and censorship,

Cirt (talk) 00:39, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Cultural humility

Here's a brand new submission at Afc that may be of interest to this project. —Anne Delong (talk) 16:39, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks; it's in mainspace now. —Anne Delong (talk) 02:08, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

New article = Cutting the Mustard: Affirmative Action and the Nature of Excellence

I've created a new article on the book, Cutting the Mustard: Affirmative Action and the Nature of Excellence.

Help with researching additional secondary sources would be appreciated, at Talk:Cutting the Mustard: Affirmative Action and the Nature of Excellence.

Cirt (talk) 04:18, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Cumulative Inequality Theory

Dear sociology experts: I think this is Afc submission is about sociology, but I'm not sure. Anyway, I am reporting it here just in case. —Anne Delong (talk) 21:55, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

I agree this is a sociology article. It has extensive formatting issues that I currently do not have tie to address. If anyone else has some time, it would be a nice addition. Meclee (talk) 15:15, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
It's been improved and moved to mainspace now. —Anne Delong (talk) 03:30, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Gender-related legal issues + Gender and society

Both these (stillborn) categories have been nominated for deletion. See:Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2014_March_25#Gender-related. XOttawahitech (talk) 15:04, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

CfD discussion for societies and cultures

There is a discussion going on right now at WP:Categories for discussion that involves changing the category names for all cultures, from, for example, "Afghan society" to "Society of Afghanistan". I can see that next will be changing "German culture" to "Culture of Germany" and the like. This would be for all ethnicities, nationalities and cultures.
If you would like to weigh in, the conversation is occurring at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 March 27#Society by country. Liz Read! Talk! 14:47, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Cultural competence/Cross-cultural competence/Intercultural competence

Could probably do with a merger. -- Brainy J ~~ (talk) 20:28, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Move request for Social network

It would be helpful to get more comments on a move request for the Social network article. Thank you, Meclee (talk) 00:47, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

AfC submission - 01/04

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/George Sumner Bridges, notable academic? FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 14:37, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

As president of Whitman College, clearly so... DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 10:13, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Uncle#Merger Proposal

Greetings WikiProject Sociology! Even though WP:SOCIO wasn't tagged on the talk page of the article I believe articles relating to family generally come within the sphere of sociology. I have proposed that uncle and aunt be merged together similar to brother and sister redirecting to sibling and nephew and niece redirecting to nephew and niece. Anyone interested is welcome to share their opinion on this proposal. Thank you. Gizza (t)(c) 04:30, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Social position, status and role

If anybody is interested in those key concepts, please see my comment at Talk:Social position. It would be nice if we could cite some definitions and explain why and how different sociologists may use contradictory definitions of some of those terms. For the record, in my latest version of my lecture on social structure for my students I am saying that social position and status are more or less the same (because the literature seems to be mostly contradicting itself on this, sigh). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:05, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Centre for the Sociology of Organizations

Dear sociologists: Is this a notable organization, or should this old Afc submission be deleted as a stale draft? —Anne Delong (talk) 05:23, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I'd rate it as notable as it was founded by Michel Crozier and has become one of the world's leading institutions in the Sociology of Organizations and one of the few today doing active research, Internationally, on labor organizations. I can also add some info and inline references. Meclee (talk) 14:00, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
Great. Let me know when you think it's ready for mainspace, unless you want to accept and move it yourself. —Anne Delong (talk) 14:32, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
I moved this to mainspace, but now I am wondering if this was a mistake. There is plenty of material all over the net about this organization, but it all seems to be contained in publications of the members, announcements of events in which they are participating, or academic profiles of its members. The information in the article is mostly from the organization's web site, and I can't find independent sources to corroborate it. Is there more in French? —Anne Delong (talk) 13:55, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Gini coefficient discussion

Project members are invited to look at Talk:Gini coefficient#Gini in Template:infobox country and to provide input. – S. Rich (talk) 04:26, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greater Romania (political concept)

Would you please tell us your opinion on this matter? All comments are welcome. Fakirbakir (talk) 16:08, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Racial/ethnic stratification - same as racism or not?

Currently racial stratification (28k GBook hits) and ethnic stratification (32k) redirect to racism. I wonder if they should be stubbed as separate topics (or perhaps one entitled racial and ethnic stratification (15k), ethnic and racial stratification (5k) (literature uses also ethnic/racial stratification (6k), racial/ethnic stratification (0.5k)? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:28, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi Piotr, Good, but tough question, given complexities of related key terms. My opinion: seems fine for 'racial stratification' to redirect to the article on 'racism'. I would not equate 'ethnic stratification' and 'racism', however. If you were moved to stub in a new article, my nomination would be 'ethnic stratification'. Regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 09:58, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
I'd be unhappy with either being turned into a stub. It opens up - and from the section heading is meant to open up - an argument over whether there is a difference between racism and ethnic discrimination which I thought was settled. If anyone is going to push for one of these becoming an article I'd strongly suggest a proper RfC to avoid edit warring. And that should take place at Talk:Racism. I know there's a pointer there but I think the main discussion should be there. Dougweller (talk) 10:26, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

I replied at Talk:Racism. Meclee (talk) 16:03, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

It is not an identity. Stratification results as a combination of factors, two of which may be ethnicity and race either as socially identified with status or as intervening variables in economic status. I would re-direct both to social stratification, adding a note to the talk there that these topics need to be better developed in that article (which is pretty poor quality as it stands). In fact, I'll add it to my 'to-do' to check back here for further discussion then perform those tasks myself. I'm winding up my Spring and am not teaching Summer so will have some time. Regards, Meclee (talk) 15:56, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

We really need an RfC on this to get more input. Dougweller (talk) 16:11, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
I'll wait for that to be posted, then. Meclee (talk) 17:05, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
  • The two are not the same and the literature doesnt treat them as such. They are closely related but have two different corresponding bodies of literature. "Racial stratification" could be a section of racism, but ethnic stratification is a different topic all together. The classic example of Ethnic stratification is the relation between Pathans and Baluch in Swat - this has nothing to do with Racism, but with political and social organization and ethnic nepotism. User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 01:12, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
I was thinking of waves of European immigrants to New York City... Which is not to say the two are entirely separate. Regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 01:46, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, thats another well known example of ethnic stratification. It is definitely possible to write an article about Ethnic stratification, it may be a little harder to write one about racial stratification that doesnt overlap alot with the article on racism but I think it is also possible - even if the article would have to be summarized in the article on racism. In the best of world I believe we would have separate articles on the three topics. (Actually that would be the next best of worlds, in the best of worlds we wouldnt need those three articles at all)User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 01:49, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
I am impressed by such an active discussion (seriously, for this project it is rare). Can I be a bit OT and draw your interest to my comment above at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Sociology#Social_position.2C_status_and_role which I think is also concerning a topic of major importance to this project? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:28, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Not the same but closely related. Racial stratification is impossible without racism, but racism is possible without stratification.User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 01:10, 13 May 2014 (UTC)


PLEASE SEE AND CONTINUE FURTHER DISCUSSION AT Talk Racism Meclee (talk) 17:27, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride 2014

You are invited to participate in Wiki Loves Pride 2014, a campaign to create and improve LGBT-related content at Wikipedia and its sister projects. The campaign will take place throughout the month of June, culminating with a multinational edit-a-thon on June 21. Meetups are being held in some cities, or you can participate remotely. All constructive edits are welcome in order to contribute to Wikipedia's mission of providing quality, accurate information. Articles related to LGBT culture may be of particular interest. You can also upload LGBT-related images by participating in Wikimedia Commons' LGBT-related photo challenge. You are encouraged to share the results of your work here. Happy editing! --Another Believer (Talk) 19:13, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Gender roles in Afghanistan needs rewrite

The page recently survived an AFD, which served to highlight the flaws in the current version of the article: it's made up of a single public domain text and reads like an essay. I'm bringing this to the attention of the Afghanistan, Sociology, Gender studies, and Feminism Wikiprojects in order that the article can be improved by having more editors work on it.-- Brainy J ~~ (talk) 13:48, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Leaflet For Wikiproject Sociology At Wikimania 2014

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We are offering to design and print physical paper leaflets to be distributed at Wikimania 2014 for all projects that apply.
For more information, click the link below.
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Adikhajuria (talk) 15:08, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Is this something which WikiProject Sociology should do? I'm not attending, but perhaps other sociologists would be attending and would pick-up a leaflet? Meclee (talk) 18:32, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Temporary WikiProject Watchlist

You may have noticed that when the old Toolserver was shutdown 7/1 to make way for the new WMFLabs, a lot of former tools disappeared, including the old Wikiproject Watchlist tool formerly maintained by user Dispenser. Thanks to Paul_012 (talk), we now have a temporary replacement until such time as Dispenser or another user develops a similar tool for the new lab. Here's a link if you need it: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?namespace=0&tagfilter=&target=Wikipedia%3AWikiProject+Globalization%2FWatchlist&title=Special%3ARecentChangesLinked Regards, Meclee (talk) 18:40, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

"Anarchy"

FYI, the scope and purpose of the anarchy article is under discussion, see talk:anarchy where it is proposed to be merged to stateless society -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 06:25, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Madeleine McCann requests for comments

I have started two requests for comments at Talk:Madeleine McCann. 159.92.1.1 (talk) 18:52, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Florian Znaniecki awaiting GA review

I am finally done with my new sociology-theme GA. Any comments appreciated! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:16, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

ASA's Wikipedia's initiative

I've found the list of ASA's Wikipedia's initiative members (at [4], page requires log in), with their Wikipedia usernames. I'll list them here, which should WP:ECHO them - they may want to introduce themselves here, and talk about their activity and plans.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:14, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

User:Jaffej Jaffej (talk · contribs), User:Silnan Tol Silnan Tol (talk · contribs), User:Erikolinwright Erikolinwright (talk · contribs), User:X-factor X-factor (talk · contribs), User:msalganik msalganik (talk · contribs), User:BRSmith911 BRSmith911 (talk · contribs), User:millerec06 millerec06 (talk · contribs), User:rcragun rcragun (talk · contribs), User:koolbreez koolbreez (talk · contribs), User:Zhpeterang Zhpeterang (talk · contribs), User:pmhunt pmhunt (talk · contribs), User:robemary robemary (talk · contribs), User:Bengrimshaw Bengrimshaw (talk · contribs), User:Kant66 Kant66 (talk · contribs), User:RROxanaSS RROxanaSS (talk · contribs), User:Brad911 Brad911 (talk · contribs), User:blindacidmentalfix blindacidmentalfix (talk · contribs), User:cmqueen cmqueen (talk · contribs), User:shollenbergerk shollenbergerk (talk · contribs), User:silkman silkman (talk · contribs), User:Doreen Doreen (talk · contribs), User:web web (talk · contribs), User:Triathlon5 Triathlon5 (talk · contribs), User:Meclee Meclee (talk · contribs), User:jiyekim90 jiyekim90 (talk · contribs), User:CharLarrSF CharLarrSF (talk · contribs), User:paigeluv21 paigeluv21 (talk · contribs), User:elefteria elefteria (talk · contribs), User:jamesbearden jamesbearden (talk · contribs), User:dweebcentric dweebcentric (talk · contribs), User:hartbrin hartbrin (talk · contribs), User:chungenliu chungenliu (talk · contribs), User:Margaret Weigers Vitullo Margaret Weigers Vitullo (talk · contribs), User:mehdi mehdi (talk · contribs), User:asorensen5 asorensen5 (talk · contribs), User:NerdyVibe NerdyVibe (talk · contribs), User:KristopherDavis KristopherDavis (talk · contribs), User:MaggieMae MaggieMae (talk · contribs), User:kozimorkim kozimorkim (talk · contribs), User:Christopher Christopher (talk · contribs), User:laxcmeyers laxcmeyers (talk · contribs), User:drkingphd drkingphd (talk · contribs), User:Otkev125 Otkev125 (talk · contribs), User:meme meme (talk · contribs), User:zzevallos zzevallos (talk · contribs), User:rjensen rjensen (talk · contribs), User:supian supian (talk · contribs), User:killiamp killiamp (talk · contribs), User:Harry.nelsen Harry.nelsen (talk · contribs), User:dwiniecki dwiniecki (talk · contribs), User:Rae191491 Rae191491 (talk · contribs), User:thomas thomas (talk · contribs), User:ansks ansks (talk · contribs).

I think the list probably covers several years, so some of these may not be active. I was actually already editing wikipedia when I signed the list trying to find others interested in editing sociology articles. I am still editing wikipedia, but stopped paying ASA dues a couple of years ago. Meclee (talk) 16:35, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Most of those are inactive, but considering that the ASA initiative was a failure and the APS one was quite successful, I actually think that pursuing this and contacting participants may be very worthwhile in understanding why one similar project succeeds while another fails. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:15, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
It would be useful to find who's active. Let me know how I can help. Meclee (talk) 17:28, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
I'd tentatively venture that nobody, outside you and me, based on the fact that they haven't bothered to comment here. A quick analysis of contribs should answer this in more detail, through at the very least I'd say that people who have not responded here but are active elsewhere at the very least don't care much about our project here (no hard feelings, just stating a fact). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:37, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
Looking at the contribs, it doesn't look like anyone else on this list is active. DA Sonnenfeld (talk) is active, but not on that list. We need to find a better way to ID sociologists on WP and convince them to "join up". The problem is, sociologists are notoriously anti-social and not big "joiners". ;) Meclee (talk) 22:58, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
A few editors above remain active; like many, they may be happy making particular contributions without necessarily participating in this WikiProject, but it wouldn't hurt to reach out to them. Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 09:39, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Is anyone available to meet with ASA's president at ASA's conference in August?

Ping User:DASonnenfeld, User:Meclee. Few days ago I talked with the current ASA's president, Ruth Milkman, about the ASA Wikipedia Initiative. She suggested that the new (2015) president elect, Paula England (IIRC), may be very interested in restarting this. I am talking with them by email, but the gist is - they would very much like to meet a Wikipedian sociologist at San Francisco. Unfortunately, I am not going to be there. Is anyone else available? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:12, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi Piotrus (Meclee & all), Well done! Have just returned from the World Congress of Sociology, in Yokohama; will not make it to SF. The key thing they/ she likely would be interested in is someone willing to take the lead on such an initiative. I'm supportive, but not in a position to do so. Thanks & best wishes, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 09:33, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
Doh, DAS, I guess we really missed on opportunity to catch up in Yokohama. I asked about people going there on the listserv, but not here... :( --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:57, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
Yes, too bad! Perhaps in Toronto, at the XIXth World Congress? Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 10:25, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

proposed merger

between Weightism and Anti-fat bias - see Talk:Anti-fat_bias#Proposed_merge_with_Weightism Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:02, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Education Foundation hiring an experienced science editor

Wiki Education Foundation is hiring two experienced Wikipedia editors for part-time (20 hours/week) positions: Wikipedia Content Expert, Sciences and Wikipedia Content Expert, Humanities. The focus of these positions is to help student editors do better work, through everything from advice and cleanup on individual articles, to helping instructors find appropriate topics for the students to work on, to tracking the overall quality of work from student editors and finding ways to improve it. We're looking for clueful, friendly editors who like to focus on article content, but also have a strong working knowledge of policies and guidelines, and who have experience with DYK, GAN, and other quality processes.--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:26, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

"Push present" Is Not an American or Recent Custom

I just read the Wicki article on the so-called "push present" and was surprised by the author's lack of knowledge of this several hundred year old custom. The Victorians and Edwardians, no doubt, must have used a more delicate term but neither the custom nor its expression are attributable to Ms. Annette Benning and/or Ms. Zoe's reality TV show (as the article alleges) and the genteel custom's "first mention" was not 2007, as the article further alleges.

The somewhat bow-shaped, 18K gold, diamond ring upon my finger, one that I have worn since the age of 12, was my great great grandmother's birthing gift from her husband, my great great grandfather. Although the term "push present" might be an exclusively contemporary one coined by an American, the cultural European custom dates back hundreds of years. I'd come to Wiki to get more history on the types of rings that were given in various eras but I guess I will need to get access to a library in Paris, Budapest, or London to get the information

In the meanwhile, if anyone knows about this custom of husbands gracing their wives with gold rings after the birth of their child, please let us know. Many thanks! --24.186.67.49 (talk) 12:52, 24 August 2014 (UTC)Gabi Taylor

Talk:Ozone_depletion#Ozone_depletion_and_global_warming

I have had some issues with the local tekkis, since they seem to deny that "human relationship with the biosphere is deemed of major historiographical and political significance" and that social science assessments e.g. by Sheldon Ungar or former fellows of the Max Planck Institute for the Study of Societies as Reiner Grundmann should be involved at all. Please have a look. Serten (talk) 15:29, 26 August 2014 (UTC) == Vijayanagara literature in Kannada considered for Main Page ==

There is an ongoing discussion on whether to feature the WP:FA quality article Vijayanagara literature in Kannada on the Main Page.

You may participate at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Vijayanagara literature in Kannada.

Thank you, — Cirt (talk) 17:15, 31 October 2014 (UTC)