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Diamond spider[edit]

The diamond spider has been rediscovered in the UK. Unfortuately no Latin name is given and Diamond spider is currently a redlink so I don't know which article to add the info to. Mjroots (talk) 17:50, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanatus formicinus is the species rediscovered, but I'm not sure the name "Diamond spider" is a widely-enough used common name to be a redirect to the species or the genus Thanatus. It's possible that several members of the genus are called Diamond Spiders, but I haven't yet found any reliable sources (e.g. field guides, nature magazines) that use this name, prior to the synchronized media blitz we're now seeing. --Animalparty! (talk) 04:46, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
This is a classic example of the way in which vernacular names get invented. The popular media won't use the Latin name, so seizes on a vernacular name, often formerly obscure and quite commonly not unique to that species. Then the number of Google hits convinces editors that this is the WP:COMMON name. Once the name is used in Wikipedia, it spreads even more widely. A side-effect sometimes is that a genuine folk name for a species, with perhaps a limited currency but a real history and interest, gets displaced. (Curtis Clark, who doesn't seem to be around now, had some good examples for plants, I seem to remember.) We should not indulge this process. Peter coxhead (talk) 08:29, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
So, someone needs to write Thanatus formicinus then? Mjroots (talk) 10:19, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
Well, I've created a stub to start things off. Peter coxhead (talk) 22:03, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Gaius villosus[edit]

In the news yesterday, the world's oldest spider died at the age of 43. There's now an article for Number 16 (spider), but we don't have an article for its species, Gaius villosus, nor is the (apparently monotypic) genus listed at Idiopidae. I'm afraid I won't have time to write an article myself before the news cycle moves on; if somebody else would like to start an article that would be fantastic. Plantdrew (talk) 21:32, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Table of families updated[edit]

I've updated the table at Spider families to the latest version of the World Spider Catalog. This was a major task, as there have been a large number of changes since the last update, with families split and merged.

  • Some new or resurrected families don't have articles yet.
  • The examples need to be checked to ensure that they haven't moved families.
  • Some of the English names may not be appropriate if a family has been split.
  • The various lists of spider species by family need checking for those families that have changed.
  • The diversity figures in family and genus articles need to be checked.
  • The Araneae template hasn't been fully fixed.

Peter coxhead (talk) 12:14, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

If anyone has time, there are some useful tasks as noted above. In particular:
  • I've created a stub at Halonoproctidae; it needs more work. It has been separated from Ctenizidae, so that article needs to be checked to make sure that it doesn't say anything that's not true of the reduced family.
  • I've created stubs for Atracidae, Macrothelidae and Porrhothelidae; they need more work. All were removed from Hexathelidae, which needs more work done on it, because now that Atracidae isn't included, it doesn't contain highly venomous spiders.
  • The "List of Xidae species" articles need fixing or creating because of these changes.
  • @Sarefo: the distribution maps for these families are likely to be wrong or don't exist.
Peter coxhead (talk) 19:16, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
By the way, I'm aware that the two monogeneric families, Macrothelidae and Porrhothelidae, should be merged with their genera, but I'd rather leave them for a while – it's easier to work on the family aspects. Peter coxhead (talk) 19:48, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Request for comment on recommending usage of automatic taxoboxes[edit]

There is an RfC regarding recommending usage of automatic taxoboxes at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life#Request for comments: Should the automatic taxobox system be the current recommended practice?. Inviting anybody who watches this page to contribute their thoughts to that thread.

WikiProject Spiders is currently using automatic taxoboxes in 73.3% of project tagged articles that have any form of taxobox. Plantdrew (talk) 01:26, 16 July 2018 (UTC)