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Stardates Conversions in List Articles[edit]


I'm seeking consensus on some changes made to list articles by a new editor. In a pinch, @Rdnicholson: would like to add conversions for the stardates already listed there so as to provide real-world dates. Initially this was completed by mistakenly using the citation system so that they all appeared as references (although they weren't references, or even referenced). I undid those changes, but it was brought to my talk page.

I figured rather than let it descend into an argument between two editors with differing views, I felt that I should bring it here for a consensus. As I see it, the stardates are difficult to convert (as explained on Stardate) since different series have used different means of conversion over the years - in fact, TNG used part of the stardate to refer to the season, not the year.

I personally don't think that we should include stardates at all in the lists, per WP:IN-UNIVERSE, but I'm happy to be overruled on that. But I feel even more strongly that we shouldn't be introducing unreferenced information that has never been officially converted and wasn't referred to in the episodes themselves. I've pinged Rdnicholson, so he can present his counterpoint here. Miyagawa (talk) 09:40, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Absolutely these conversions should not be included unless they are made explicit by a reliable source. This is blatant original research at worst and synthesis at best. DonIago (talk) 13:33, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
As with Doniago, I agree with your sentiment, Miyagawa, not to do any sort of conversion; 'tis the path to WP:OR. --EEMIV (talk) 22:04, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

My bold edit for the quarter...[edit]

I've probably mentioned it before, but I've been working on a version of the Star Trek: Enterprise article in userspace. Well it finally became time to put it into mainspace. So please go take a look, and make any appropriate edits. I might throw it at GAN after it's had time to settle in and see if it sticks - I think it's covered all the main points but happy to hear about any missing elements and we can get them added in. Miyagawa (talk) 18:30, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

I gave it a cursory skim (but lingered on a few sections) and it reads great! Good work! --EEMIV (talk) 23:48, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
The next replacement I'm working on is for Deep Space Nine (space station), which is currently located here: User:Miyagawa/sandbox4. Miyagawa (talk) 15:00, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
Incidentally, even though the edits aren't appearing on the main project page, I'm attempting to tidy up "The City on the Edge of Forever" at the moment. Please do take a look and revise any nonsense I've slipped in. I haven't copyedited it yet since I'm still adding stuff, so I'm sure there's plenty of mistakes and British-isms in there at the moment. I'm thinking about giving the Enterprise article another week and then throwing it up at GAN and seeing what happens. Miyagawa (talk) 22:00, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
On second thoughts, I'm going to nominate the Enterprise article now. Miyagawa (talk) 22:03, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

AOL chats hosted at Memory Alpha[edit]

So it turns out that some folks involved in the production of Star Trek hosted chats on AOL back in the 1990s. These chats were then posted on a Geocities site. Before the site was taken down, staff at Memory Alpha saved the chats there. Is there any feasible way at all to cite these chats as reliable sources? — fourthords | =Λ= | 17:29, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

I've used the Memory Alpha location in a GA before specifically for those chats, but I certainly wouldn't seek to use that on FA as it'd get shot down in a heartbeat. I immediately thought of WikiSource, but these are still under copyright unfortunately. I know some of the chats can be pulled from the official Star Trek website using (they changed the design around 2007/8 and dropped all the older information from the site then), but MA still has the AOL Chats that aren't (and never were) there. Miyagawa (talk) 18:14, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

The City on the Edge of Forever[edit]

I've just completed a week long overhaul of "The City on the Edge of Forever" in preparation for the 50th anniversary. It needs a proper copyedit yet as I'm sure there's plenty of Miyagawa-isms and British spellings in there to be found. I also need to do a research trip to the British Library to have a read of The Music of Star Trek to cite that section, unless anyone here has a copy and could do it for me. Once that's done, I think we should be ready to put it up for a Good Article nomination. Miyagawa (talk) 10:56, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

John G Hertzler/Martok Star Trek: DS9[edit]

John Hertzler's Wikipedia article is noted as being part of the Star Trek WikiProject, however, there is no "importance rating". Can someone please notate the importance rating on his article? He was a major recurring character seasons 4-7 of DS9, and John played a total of 10 characters among DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise. I can't contribute other than to provide info as I'm his publicist, and we're very close personal friends. We have a CoI so I can't contribute. --JGHSMC (talk) 03:56, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

No problem: [1]fourthords | =Λ= | 16:05, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Inclusions in production section of the main Star Trek template[edit]

Please see and comment if you wish at Template talk:Star Trek where production entries are being disputed and discussed, including Lucille Ball whose page (and the Desilu page) need more sources about their major role in Star Trek. Thanks. Randy Kryn 14:55, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Star Trek: Discovery[edit]

We now know that Star Trek: Discovery is on the way in January! First visuals on the USS Discovery today - looks very Star Trek: Planet of the Titans/Ralph McQuarrie-esque to me. I'm sure we'll hear about that in the coming days and weeks. Miyagawa (talk) 23:08, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Reboot series named the "Kelvin Timeline"[edit]

A discussion about renaming the "reboot series" the "Kelvin timeline series" has been made at here. Please add your input. Oldag07 (talk) 13:01, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Structure of Spock[edit]

Not exactly an RFC, but I would like to invite editors to take a look at Talk:Spock#Structure and content of this article. Miyagawa (talk) 14:04, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Front page for Sept 8, 2016[edit]

Hi, I was wondering, Star Trek's 50 years is on September 8, 2016 and I was wondering if an article could possibly possibly hit the front page then. Pyrusca (talk) 21:00, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

There's currently an effort (at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/The Man Trap) to have The Man Trap as the featured article of the day on the 8th. There are also 13 prompts (at T:TDYK#September 8 (Star Trek anniversary)) waiting to be the "did you know" entries on the same day. — fourthords | =Λ= | 16:34, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
Ah ok. Personally i was hoping for something else, like Spock going from B to FA status real fast, but that might be a dream. sigh. Pyrusca (talk) 15:15, 17 August 2016 (UTC)