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Other eyes needed[edit]

Could I ask folks to take a look at the recent edits to "Disaster (Star Trek: The Next Generation)"? We have an IP editor adding what appears to me to be inappropriate material, though in good faith. While originally they only linked to a wiki, which had WP:SPS issues, they recently added this as a reference, which I believe is also inappropriate, but I also think the IP is starting to feel that I'm just being difficult. I've asked them to initiate a discussion at the article's Talk page, but I'm sure they're feeling put upon at this point. Other editors weighing in would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Kirk the newer[edit]

I posted this question on the Kirk page as well, but there might be more people watching here.

Would an image of Chris Pine as Kirk be possible (and a good idea) in this article per the Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria (I see Spock has the newer Spock)? We could of course use one of the free Pine-images, but since the article is about the character, I´d like an image of the character. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:39, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

I would say that unless the article discusses Chris Pine's appearance as Kirk—perhaps contrasting his appearance with William Shatner's, or discussing special makeup used on-set—there's no reason to use copyrighted material to illustrate it. — fourthords | =Λ= | 20:08, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
The article discuss Pine's appearance as Kirk, it would a strange article otherwise. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:01, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
I've read the James T. Kirk article in its entirety now, and found zero reliably-sourced prose about Chris Pine's appearance. I think maybe you're confusing my use of the word "appearance". I'm saying that nothing reliably discusses how Chris Pine physically looks as Kirk, which is what we'd need to justify using copyrighted material in the article. Of course the article has information about Chris Pine's portrayal of Kirk, but unless there's something about his portrayal itself that requires non-free content to understand (and I found none in the article), we don't include it. Does that make sense? — fourthords | =Λ= | 17:12, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
Ditto fourthords, and hence my oblique comment on the article talk page wondering whether the Quinto-Spock image met NFCC. --EEMIV (talk) 18:27, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
With what's in the article presently, it doesn't seem like there's a strong NFCC justification, although given that there's vulcan ears and such involved and that tends to get talked about there might be more info out there to justify it. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 18:40, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the replies. fourthords, to me it doesn´t make much sense. The article doesn´t discuss Shatner-Kirks physical appearance either, probably because sources have used pictures, which makes sense: how does different incarnations of characters look? Pictures! They are the easy way to increase readers understanding. Hannibal Lecter, Aragorn (OH! there´s an animated Kirk as well!), Saturday Night Live parodies of Donald Trump, Gaius Julius Caesar (Rome character). If there is a character to depict, even if the chararacter/actor looks very alike, WP tends to have a picture of the character (Miles O'Brien (Star Trek)), which is a good thing.
To quote the essay WP:Other stuff exists: "When used correctly, these comparisons are important as the encyclopedia should be consistent in the content that it provides or excludes." Of course, "correctly" is a matter of opinion.
Off topic, I think the article should have more on the "Shatner pause"[1] (it pops up in the "Franchise "reboot" section), I wonder if I can find any RS about that. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:31, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Popular pages report[edit]

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I glanced at this last month when it was posted, but I've just taken a serious look at it, and I'm wondering about our criteria for including an article as part of our project. For example, Benedict Cumberbatch was the most-viewed Star Trek-related article from 2017-04-01 to 2017-04-30. Yes, Cumberbatch did star in Into Darkness for an hour or so, but so ends his connection to the franchise. Unlike Sir Patrick, Trek isn't something for which he's extraordinarily well-known outside the fandom, and he hasn't continued to emphasize his role in the fandom like Takei. Without looking, I'd put Cumberbatch under the WikiProjects for London, actors/actresses, and Sherlock Holmes if one exists, but not Star Trek. What think we? — fourthords | =Λ= | 22:35, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
I'd agree. Otherwise, you could argue that Idris Elba should also be in the project. Mind you, if we're going to remove Cumberbatch, then we should also remove Eric Bana, which is an FA. Miyagawa (talk) 09:10, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
I'm a pretty nutso fan, and yet I had to think long and hard to remember who Bana is and what his connection to the franchise is; I didn't even remember Mr. Elba's name. As to their quality-ranking, is it (a) a bummer that the Trek Project is losing an FA from our cap, or (b) inappropriate to claim such an article under our umbrella when the subject has such an ephemeral association to Trek? So… do the two of us (over the span of 3.81 months) count as a consensus? — fourthords | =Λ= | 16:51, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

"Barge of the Dead" GAN[edit]

Giving the community a heads up that I've nominated the episode "Barge of the Dead" for GAN. While there is not as much information out there on this episode in comparison to my previous work with "Faces" (Star Trek: Voyager), I believe that is a comprehensive overview of the episode. I would greatly appreciate anyone's help with the review. Thank you in advance. Aoba47 (talk) 20:50, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

"Barge of the Dead" FAC[edit]

Giving the community a heads up that I've nominated "Barge of the Dead" as a featured article candidate (of the Dead/archive1&redirect=no here). Any comments or suggestions for improvement would be greatly appreciated! Aoba47 (talk) 14:33, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Template:Star Trek abbreviations[edit]

An IP editor has been changing the abbreviations in the {{Star Trek abbreviations}} template. I have reverted it twice, but am wary of doing it again, so as not to violate the revert war policy. Can an editor take care of this? Charlotte Allison (Morriswa) (talk) 04:41, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Well, since we're not claiming these abbreviations are official or widely-used, they're effectively just a Wikipedia shorthand developed by this WikiProject. Furthermore, since the articles that transclude the template aren't being changed too, it needs to stay the same until a consensus can develop for any change. Also, WP:BRD. I'll keep an eye on the template; thanks for the heads-up! — fourthords | =Λ= | 15:33, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
I can only presume it's humour driven vandalism to try to force the "STD" abbreviation for Discovery. Miyagawa (talk) 16:43, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Anyone around?[edit]

Talk:Teleporter ugh. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:03, 29 December 2017 (UTC)