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Health-related articles – UNDA[edit]

About 90 Health science students at the University of Notre Dame Australia(UNDA) have been creating content related to Australian health in their sandboxs over the last few days many of the article have started to be moved to main space, please dont bite the editors... If see something new obviously add cats and project tags as appropriate. Most of the articles are significantly better than the average new comer articles example Immigrant Health in Australia so be on the lookout for potential DYK's it be nice to see a few make the main page... If you have any significant issues drop me a note Gnangarra 09:32, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

I've been looking for a notice like this today. I've noticed all of the moves to mainspace of similarly named Australian articles and was wondering if there was a class. So far, things look good. -Niceguyedc Go Huskies! 09:54, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

a few more articles;

still digging through the logs looking for more Gnangarra 11:51, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

These articles look good - great work to the students and everyone involved in this project. There's a bit of over-use of generic "stock" type images, and I've removed a few: I'd encourage the editors involved to replace these with images directly relevant to the topic (though in fairness the topics here can be tricky to illustrate!) Nick-D (talk) 12:21, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
Nice find, it explains these two articles too:
I'm not convinced that they are all absolutely encyclopedic - just because it would make a good PHD topic or journal article, doesn't mean that it's a suitable encyclopedia article. The-Pope (talk) 14:46, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
I have gone through some of these and tried to help with formatting, copy editing etc. Generally they seem ok, but I have some concerns in relation to BLP issues on the "Steroid use in Australia" article. I have removed the list and image that concerned me, but if anyone has any concerns/thinks that this was unwarranted, I am happy to discuss further. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 14:57, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
Some interesting topics there. Should the Australian-related facts from Heart disease in Australia by merged into the more established Cardiovascular disease and diabetes in Australia? - Shiftchange (talk) 03:33, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

I think it's really good to see this kind of project coming out of universities: Wikipedia often gets a bit weak on these kinds of broad-brush topics, especially on health/science topics and at a national level, and I think these efforts are well-suited to making sure those areas get covered. Some of them need a bit more work to push them into an encyclopedic style but most of these are the kinds of area that are really complementary but gaps that we would really struggle to fill otherwise. The Drover's Wife (talk) 03:46, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

See Talk:Fetal alcohol spectrum disorder Australia#in Australia? re the scope of this article. Mitch Ames (talk) 04:48, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Hello everyone, Lydia here from the University of Notre Dame. I'd like to thank the community for your input and edits on the students' work. It is absolutely fine to critique (or even delete) the articles - this is part of the student learning process and I am encouraging students to look at how their pages have been edited after submission. This process helps them to understand how publishing works, and gives them a chance to contribute to the world's knowledge, rather than just writing an essay for one person to read. Please share any comments or suggestions about this project with me on my Talk page. Thank you. Ldawe (talk) 03:06, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

"Paperboy" vs. "newsboy" or what else, besides in the U.S.[edit]

There's a requested move discussion at Talk:Paperboy#Requested move (September 2015) where other-than-U.S. perspective would be welcome. It seems important to determine whether "paperboy" always means a boy (or girl) who delivers newspapers to home subscribers (as currently asserted in Paperboy (newspaper delivery) article. And whether "newsboy" (also known as "newspaper hawker") always means a boy (or girl) who sells newspapers to non-subscribers at a street corner or on a train or the like. It seems there are no longer any newsboys in the United States (and maybe not in the U.K.). If you can bring a non-U.S. perspective, your participation at the requested move and/or your commenting here be greatly appreciated.

Do boys (or girls) sell newspapers on the street in Australia or any other countries that you know about? And what are or were they called? And what are newspaper delivery-persons called? (I have made a similar request at wt:WikiProject India.) --doncram 22:31, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

P.S. Anyone know of Australian movie(s) featuring paperboy(s)? To add to Paperboy (newspaper delivery)#In media perhaps. There was some 1970s or 1980s quirky Australian (?) movie about an unaccomplished thirty-something(?) son, still living with his parents, that ends with delivery vehicles streaming out of a news-plant to deliver newspapers by means of a mechanical newspaper-thrower that he invented and which represents his coming of age, or something. I dimly recall it, and googled but can't find it. :) --doncram 23:13, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

@Doncram: There are people that sell newspapers on the streets, at least in Brisbane. I don't know that there is a local word for them at all, and they tend to be older gentlemen in my experience rather than kids barking "extra extra, read all about it!". There are also street vendors that sell The Big Issue, which is sort of the same thing. On the other hand, kids with paper runs are usually still known as "paperboys". There is a surprising amount of dialectical variation between various parts of Australia though, so the above might not be accurate outside of my experience in Southeast Queensland. Lankiveil (speak to me) 12:08, 9 September 2015 (UTC).
In Perth, Western Australia - in the 1960s and probably the 1970s, there were paperboys who sold the afternoon daily news on street corners in the CBD, usually after school and for office workers on their way to trains and buses... never heard of newsboys in perth... for those who love numbers and hits the simple use of the two words paper and boys is the highest number I have ever managed on a trove search [1] JarrahTree 14:07, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
Doncram, that sounds like Malcolm (film). Starring Colin Friels, robs a bank with a getaway car that breaks in half lengthwise to become 2 motorcycle like vehicles? 220 of Borg 06:50, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

A-class reviews request[edit]

Anyone interested in doing a review for our two A-Class candidates at WP:AUS/ACR? (Or another review if you have already done one? – thanks, btw, Anotherclown & User:AustralianRupert.) Pinging original discussion participants @The Drover's Wife, Nick-D, Casliber, Ian Rose, Lankiveil, Hawkeye7, and Timeshift9: - Evad37 [talk] 01:34, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Roads and sports aren't really my area I'm afraid. The Drover's Wife (talk) 03:38, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Bit tied up. But will see what I can do. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:12, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
I'll do the roads one. Hawkeye7 (talk) 05:18, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Gave my two cents worth on the Basketball article. Dan arndt (talk) 12:23, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Assuming no further political turmoil this evening, and nobody else getting to it first, I'll do the requested images review of the basketball article. Lankiveil (speak to me) 00:07, 15 September 2015 (UTC).
  • Now waiting for an uninvolved user to close the ACR for Australia women's national wheelchair basketball team at the 2012 Summer Paralympics (thanks to everyone who reviewed!). - Evad37 [talk] 03:11, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Duncan Armstrong[edit]

Dirtlawyer asks on my talkpage whether I have access to newspaper archives/bio sources on Australian swimmer Duncan Armstrong, but I don't. Does anyone have advice? Tony (talk) 12:14, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

If he's in Australia, he can get access to Factiva through the National Library if he joins up with them (is free and you don't need to be in Canberra). He also might have some luck with Wikipedia:Wikipedia Library, as there's a couple there that have some Aus news articles. There's also a bunch of hits for him in Trove - nothing jumps out as terribly easily but someone who cares more might find something there. The Drover's Wife (talk) 12:19, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
@The Drover's Wife: I'm in the United States; is Factiva access limited to Australia residents? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 17:38, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
Access through the National Library of Australia is, but it's a US-based service so hopefully you've got your own domestic libraries with access. The Drover's Wife (talk) 22:11, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
In terms of free resources, Google Newspapers has The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald up to the late 80 and the Fairfax News Store covers from the late 80s on. Hack (talk) 03:42, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Australia Post[edit]

I have updated this page with recent financial information as the figures in the info-box were 2 years old. I also added content, like their recently announced (though expected) first loss in 30 years, to the previously single sentence lead. As 'I Am Not An Accountant' (WP:IANAA), it might be good for someone to check my figures, which I sourced from an ABC article, not Oz Posts' annual report.

Second issue, on the talk page at Talk:Australia Post#Merge from Postal service in Australia, there is an ≈21 month old proposed merger to Oz Post of Postal service in Australia, which page is also unsourced. I think this merger should be done, or the page simply redirected. Any interested parties please comment there. 220 of Borg 10:07, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Hobart coastal defences[edit]

G'day all, I have opened a Good Article re-assessment of the Hobart coastal defences article as I am concerned about its referencing standards. The reassessment page can be found here: Talk:Hobart coastal defences/GA1. Unfortunately, I think its original editor is no longer active, so I am hoping that maybe someone here might have access to relevant sources. I am keen to see the article retain its status, so I will leave the review open until next weekend to see if anyone is in a position to address my concerns. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 11:29, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

In the news again[edit]

A fairly accurate, non-sensationalist article today on vanity articles. Might pay to keep an eye on Deidre Anderson and Draft:Deidre Anderson though. The-Pope (talk) 10:15, 6 October 2015 (UTC)