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Category:Drama Desk Award winners[edit]

Category:Drama Desk Award winners, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs)

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Should theater/stage appearance listed under filmography? 112.210.3.150 (talk) 06:32, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

I would say no under the basis that it is not recorded in any way as film. These credits should be listed as stage or theatre appearances. For example, see the separation for Michael Shannon. --173.161.15.201 (talk) 18:51, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Use of categories that contain "Play" for musicals[edit]

Recently, Plain Jane Doe removed all categories that contained the word "play" in them from articles on musicals. Given such sources as The American Heritage Dictionary, which defines a musical as "A play or movie that contains musical numbers",[1] I would say these categories certainly apply to musicals. Our own article on Musical theatre also cites reliable sources that define a musical as a "musical play where songs and dances are fully integrated into a well-made story with serious dramatic goals that is able to evoke genuine emotions other than laughter" (quoting the article, not the sources themselves). You can see an example of the removal of categories here: [1]. There are 25-30 such edits in total. I've asked Plain Jane Doe to stop removing those categories until a discussion on this concludes. Should categories that contain the word "play" apply to musicals as well as straight plays? ~ RobTalk 17:30, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Absolutely. Such a removal is ludicrous. –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 17:42, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
Let me begin with this: User:BU Rob13 has yet to address the issue with User:IJVin concerning their vandalism in placing play category into musical category articles. I simply removed this vandalism. There's a reason why the Tony Awards have play categories and musical categories, because they are categorized differently.
If the issue is not addressed between the two mentioned users, a check user will need to confirm on the possibility of a sock between User:BU Rob13 and User:IJVin, who may be one and the same. --Plain Jane Doe (talk) 17:56, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
As I recommended before, read WP:NOTVANDALISM. A content dispute, which is more-or-less what this is, is not vandalism. I did not ping IJVin previously to avoid WP:CANVASSing. And thanks, the sockpuppetry accusation gave me a good laugh on an otherwise miserable day. If you believe any user is abusing multiple accounts, including myself, you can file a report at WP:SPI. ~ RobTalk 18:04, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
I'd recommend restoring the categories immediately. They can always be removed again if, for some bizarre reason, the community decides that it's a good idea to totally screw up theatre navigation, but at the moment, theatre navigation is being screwed. –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 18:35, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Whatever the solution we should be able to select (for example) "Autobiographical X" category and it would include stage works, musical or not, that were autobiographical.

The easiest solution to that as we stand now is for X to be "play (theater)" and have a sub category "Musical" (which should be included in "plays by genre"). --John (User:Jwy/talk) 02:13, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

I fully agree with that. I'm going to revert those edits now, given the emerging consensus and the negative effect on navigation among theatre articles that the change is causing in the meantime. I would not object at all to a subcategory of musicals, provided that it's nested within the category for plays. ~ RobTalk 02:23, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
In some parts of the category tree there are indeed Musicals subcategories, which are nested appropriately. (I sometimes worry about operas subcategories elsewhere not being findable because they're not nested, but that's a bit of a tangent.) –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 03:40, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
I ran up against this a couple years ago when trying to cleanup categories for librettists, book writers, and composers, and there was no good solution for the play v. musical problem. To take one of the recent examples: If I want to change the Categorization of Matilda the Musical, I have to create Musicals Set in England, and from that I have to create Musicals set in the United Kingdom > Musicals by country of setting + Musicals set in Europe by country > Musicals by region of setting + Musicals set in Europe > Musicals by setting + Musicals by continent of setting. And that's just to set up a parallel tree for the geographic setting of the play--if I were doing A Gentleman's Guide to Love and Murder, I'd have to do the same thing for the time component as well. Honestly, I wish *parts* of the category tree for Plays could be renamed Plays and Musicals just to make it easier. Aristophanes68 (talk) 22:03, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
  1. ^ "Musical". Your Dictionary. Retrieved 4 August 2015. 

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement![edit]

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Hello,
Please note that Music venue, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of Today's articles for improvement. The article was scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning Monday 03 August 2015. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing!
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Notability for plays[edit]

What are the notability guidelines for plays?--Skr15081997 (talk) 03:36, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Infobox for Non-Profit/ Commercial Theatre Companies[edit]

There currently exists an infobox for Theatre Groups, Theatre Festivals, and Stage Productions, but I think it would enhance the ease of inputting/ locating information if there were separate infobox entries for both Non-profit and commercial companies. In the Chicago theatre scene (as well as in NYC, to my knowledge) most theatres must eschew the use of infoboxes because there isn't one that fits theatre page-type. The current available company boxes on the List of Infoboxes also fail to provide the necessary information for these pages.

I'd like to open a dialogue on the creation of what information to provide for each.

Non-profit theatre companies should include basic information such as name, image, image size, founded date, location, and a website link but should include information pertinent to their specific structure: Artistic, Development, and Managing directors as well as the listing of notable members.

I don't have experience in the realm of commercial theatres, so perhaps someone else could speak to that? kstoffers (talk) 18:25, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

RfC: Are personal pronouns (including "who") to be avoided for fictional characters?[edit]

Please take part in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#RfC: Are personal pronouns (including "who") to be avoided for fictional characters? Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 23:09, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Should "Act 2" be capitalized?[edit]

I was changing "act 2, scene 1" etc. to "Act 2, Scene 1" in a few articles. It seems to me that "Act 2" is a proper name (though "act" is a common noun in "the second act"), just as "6th Street" is a proper name. But I received complaints from another editor. Should I stop making such changes? About 80% of the time "Act 2" is capitalized, and it seems to me desirable to have consistency. There appears to be less support for capitalizing "scene 1". Is this a good place to seek a resolution? Chris the speller yack 04:11, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters might be better, although this WikiProject should certainly be notified. The Chicago Manual of Style recommends "act 1, scene 3", but that's just, like, their opinion, man such manuals frequently disagree. FourViolas (talk) 04:22, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Good suggestion to move this discussion, and I have done so: WT:Manual of Style/Capital letters#Should "Act_2" be capitalized?. Chris the speller yack 17:04, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

"Drama (genre)"[edit]

The usage and purpose of Drama (genre) is under discussion, see talk:Drama -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 05:40, 26 August 2015 (UTC)