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San Francisco (2014 typeface) listed at Requested moves[edit]

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Garamond in italic[edit]

Did Claude Garamond really cut this italic type?

I have a question for any experts, which I've duplicated on the reference desk. Here goes...

On Wikimedia Commons there's a photo of a page from a 1540 book, a French edition of Suetonius's Lives of the Twelve Caesars, and published by Robert Estienne. The typeface is identified as being an italic cut by French engraver Claude Garamond (or Garamont), after whom many modern fonts are named. It is used on many Wikipedia articles on Garamond and his typefaces in various languages-indeed, I put it on the English-language wiki before I got suspicious.

I'm a bit concerned about this image, since I have seen a lot of sources saying it is not clear Garamond cut italic type until the mid-1540s while working as a publisher himself. The French government article on Garamond says he 'perhaps' cut one for Estienne, so it has doubts too, and of course the one supposed to be by him might not even be this. Warde (1926) thinks no italics until after this book was printed. Two modern books on the topic which seem to be relevant are published by Dutch academic publisher Brill, which I know gives e-book licenses to Wikipedia. I don't feel this one query merits me applying for one, so can someone who has one of those licenses look them up? They're 'The palaeotypography of the French Renaissance. Selected papers on sixteenth-century typefaces. 2 vols' (Vervliet) and 'Dutch typography in the sixteenth century: the collected works of Paul Valema Blouw'. I've cited both on the Garamond article, but I've only been able to read the bits on Google Books. The answer may not be hard to find - Vervliet lists notable books which used each font he was able to attribute to a specific designer.

As for the image in question, I'm not convinced any deep scholarship has been done into it recently. It was bought by a collector in 1948 and transferred to Colorado College in 1981. Their website simply prints what the donor told them in 1981. (Claude Garamond is a well-known engraver of type, so my impression is that it was a bit too common in the past to attribute anything that looks nice in 16th century French printing to him without looking too closely at how it matched types he used in his own publications.)

I'm out of my depth here. I'm a sciences person with no formal qualifications or experience in historical research, printing, reading French-language sources or art history. But I feel that the attribution of this book to Garamond is more than doubtful and needs to be cleared up. Blythwood (talk) 07:21, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Islamic calligraphy listed at Requested moves[edit]

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template category[edit]

Category:Typeface templatesChristTrekker 22:21, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Importance of MS Sans Serif[edit]

I think it is interesting that this article is considered of low importance. This is probably one of the most recognizable fonts of computing. Why hasn't MS switched away from it yet? Because it is a large part of the percieved identity of Windows. --2003:71:CF36:C782:B966:D05B:EDD0:9AD4 (talk) 17:59, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Typography expertise desired at an RFC on image and caption layout defaults at Wikipedia.[edit]

As an independent editor I am putting out a blanket request for any editors with typography expertise to join the discussion at this request for comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals). -- Koala Tea Of Mercy (KTOM's Articulations & Invigilations) 17:46, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

font ❤ userbox—maybe of interest to project members[edit]

{{User:ChristTrekker/favorite font}} Handles up to 8 right now. ⇔ ChristTrekker 19:04, 5 August 2016 (UTC)