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Word Spacing[edit]

Hello! I was thinking of adding some information and history about word spacing. A lot has been written on subjects around it (e.g. letter spacing) and I feel this would benefit the Typography Project. Amac19 (talk) 21:23, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello again! I've added a brief section about readability and word spacing, with references as well. I've adjusted it and I plan to add more information soon as well as mention two views on spacing that I've read in literature. If anyone has any feedback or suggestions, that would be much appreciated! Thanks! Amac19 (talk) 03:38, 2 November 2014 (UTC)amac19

-I've added several paragraphs to Word spacing plus the references consulted. I also added Leading to the See Also list because it seemed to be quite relevant for readers of typography. As always, any questions, comments, concerns about the edit is appreciated! Amac19 (talk) 17:12, 2 November 2014 (UTC)amac19

Hi Amac19, I like your additions to the word spacing article. Readability is a good topic. If you are looking to expand the article....Word spacing is also affected by the type of font used, e.g., monospace fonts don't have adjustable word spacing, whereas proportional fonts are usually more flexible. You might mention that word spacing can depend on typographical format. For instance, to achieve justified paragraphs, word spacing is altered to adjust lengths, see [1] . But in ragged right set paragraphs, word spacing is typically fixed. --Mark viking (talk) 04:06, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Mark viking Thanks very much for the feedback. I had read sources that had some discussion on what you suggested, though as my posting was part of a project, and as a first time poster, I was a bit hesitant to write on this without better knowledge on this topic, but a good note for how the Word spacing page can progress! Amac19 (talk) 01:00, 17 November 2014 (UTC)amac19

Line Length[edit]


I am a Master of Library and Information Studies student. As part of my course Information Systems Management I have been tasked to make a substantial edit to a stub article related to IM topics discussed in the course. I am particularly interested in typography and so I have selected the Line Length article. There has been a fair bit of work done on the subject so I will be adding a short section (about 500 words) and references for your review.

I look forward to your input. Melissa

MelissaArchibald (talk) 23:37, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

I have added two sections to Line Length: "Printed Text" and "Electronic Text". Headings are open to change. References have also been included. I appreciate any feedback. MelissaArchibald (talk) 02:11, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Circled Characters[edit]

Very Small Point : Elsewhere the "AT" sign (@) is referred to as a circled letter "a". . It is NOT -- rather it is a wrapped-tail letter "a" : The "circle" is NOT closed. Allenwoll (talk) 23:24, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Boxout, Floating Box, Sidebar[edit]

While looking for unreferenced articles, I noticed Sidebar (publishing), Boxout and Floating block. They are tagged by this WikiProject and they seem to describe fairly basic concepts, but I can't find works that describe them in detail in the context of layout and print. The Survival Guide To Journalism glossary describes Box out as a synonym for Sidebar for example (p. 143). Two of the articles have been missing references for several years now - it would be great if someone could help out. Also, and that is just my opinion as a layman, Floating block and Boxout seem to describe the same thing. I'm crossposting a link to this section to WikiProject Graphic design. Recdep (talk) 20:31, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Scripts: Subscripts, Seriscripts, Superscripts[edit]

Seriscripts is a term used by some semioticians to identify scripts "within" the base of texts, that are not below or above the typed "X" height. Furhermore and to be strictly or technically proper, fixes like "st" and "nd" and "rd" as written suffixes attached to root numbers like 1 and 2 and 3 are related to syllables but are called clitics and are not scripts. (talk) 12:24, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

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Watch this page for any rare vandal acts that slip by.[edit]

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Seems like typographic unit has the same scope as the point article and is just a much less common term for the same subject. Merge? or just adjust the content of article until it is talking about something different? — LlywelynII 16:01, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

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Baskerville Old Face[edit]

It's one of the fonts on every computer and I think we need something about it. Does anyone have a good source on its history? My understanding from here etc is that it was a remake of Baskerville by Fry's that became owned by Stephenson Blake, and my impression is that modern digitisations are based on a design created as a titling face, hence the lack of an italic. But I might be wrong. Blythwood (talk) 08:16, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

This font is briefly discussed in the section Baskerville#Hot type versions. This web page, in the "The History" section, has the most information I have seen online. They do mention italic as part of the font, but it wasn't well received. There may be more info at typophile, but the site seems down at the moment. --Mark viking (talk) 09:28, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks very much - looks really good. James Mosley has some interesting comments in that thread, which I've cited from an Internet Archive backup - which is reasonable as he is a qualified academic. That answers most of my questions, but I'm also interested in the sources and logic behind how it was digitised (and why nobody at URW thought it needed an italic, which makes me think they didn't think it worked for body text). If anyone has more on that I'd be keen to hear about it. Blythwood (talk) 09:05, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Early sans-serifs?[edit]

Another question. I'm wondering about adding some pictures of early sans-serif fonts to the sans-serif article. Anyone know of some good sample images, preferably one showing condensed/expanded versions, or a free/open-source (or very cheap) revival I could download to use for that? The article's sample image for that category is Franklin Gothic, and really it looks almost the same as Helvetica-I'd like something more irregular and eccentric. Could probably put something together from ATF specimens from the 1890s on the Internet Archive, but would be keen to hear if anyone has a better source-I haven't found an example as strange as Monotype Grotesque Bold Extended, say. Blythwood (talk) 09:51, 1 July 2015 (UTC)