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- 1 Coordinates + microformats
- 2 Archives
- 3 Article alerts
- 4 Google "Waterways"
- 5 Nominated for GA
- 6 Waterways map and guide
- 7 River Lee, Ireland
- 8 Discussion at Talk:Aqueduct#Split proposal (2)
- 9 Please help get waterway-related listed structures ready for the start of the Wiki Loves Monuments competition on 1st September
- 10 Relevance of RDTs
- 11 RFC: WP:MOSNUM
Coordinates + microformats
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You might be interested in this announcement on the BBC News website: UK waterways to become active routes on Google Maps. Oosoom Talk 15:54, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Nominated for GA
I have nominated 3 articles for Good Article status:
- PS I also nominated Deeping Fen, which I know many of you worked on, and it has already gone through Robert EA Harvey (talk)
Waterways map and guide
I've put on Commons a set of 6 scans of a map of Britain showing the waterways (and railways) as they were in 1830 by Nichols, Priestley & Walker. These are titled Map of Inland Navigation I to VI and could make valuable illustrations for articles about the waterways. Apart from showing the canal system as it was at its peak, it also shows the resources (coal, limestone etc.) that they were designed to service and is the best map I've come across of the whole country. If anyone wants a portion to illustrate a particular waterway I'd be happy to help.
I've also put on Wikisource the full text by Joseph Priestley (the other one - manager of the Aire and Calder Canal) of Historical Account of the Navigable Rivers, Canals, and Railways, of Great Britain published the same year, which links to this map. This has a verbal description of the line of each waterway/railway, the parliamentary terms it was established by, usually an account of construction (there are some projected entries that never got built) and the rates charged for each type of goods carried. It was in its day a useful guide for any company wishing to move goods around and is still a fascinating insight into a very different world only 180 years ago. Its entries could also be of use in editing Wikipedia articles.
Is anyone willing to help proof-read this book? There are about 600 pages to go! The project page is at Index:Rivers, Canals, Railways of Great Britain and the talk page gives some guidelines. There are quite a few specialised templates for wikisource, but you don't need to know anything more than editing simple wikipedia text for doing the first round of proofreading. I'm finding it's a fascinating way of learning more about the history. If you want help use my talk page either here or on Wikisource. Chris55 (talk) 12:50, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
River Lee, Ireland
Does anyone want to look at Talk:River Lee (Ireland) for a move proposal? It relates in some ways to the River Lea. Simply south...... walking into bells for just 6 years 14:18, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Discussion at Talk:Aqueduct#Split proposal (2)
In September the UK is taking part for the first time in the international photography competition Wiki Loves Monuments. Participants will be invited to submit pictures of listed structures of significant importance (eg grades I or grade II* or equivalent), as recorded by English Heritage, Historic Scotland, Cadw and the Northern Ireland Environment Agency . The main external website for competitors can be found here, and you can leave a message there if you have queries about competing. Do please join in, and let people in your local area know of this excellent way in which both existing and new Wiki users can help improve the encyclopaedia by contributing photographs of local listed structures. What about organizing a local Wikimeet to attract new people?
In preparation for the start of the competition on 1st September there is still quite a lot of work to do, and we would like to ask for the help of members of this wikiproject. Many of the listed structures are residential or other buildings, but there are a significant number of waterway-related listed structures that may be of specific interest to members of this project. Your local and expert knowledge will be invaluable in ensuring that the lists of eligible structures are up to date and correctly formatted. If you look at Listed buildings in the United Kingdom you will see how many structures are included. If you then follow the links, you can get to the detailed lists for your area. Alternatively have a look at the WLM planning table. Can you help to ensure that the lists for your area are up to date and well presented?
Some of the lists have been semi-automatically generated from data provided by the official listing organizations. These use pre formatted templates (eg EH header) which will make it much easier for competition participants to upload their photographs to Commons as an automated process. Please don't change the template structure, as we need to ensure that the templates are properly compatible with the WLM standards that are in use worldwide. The format will allow a bot automatically to collect the information and to put it into the international Monuments Database.
The data still needs the attention of local editors:
- The "title" may need wikilinking to a suitable article name (whether we currently have that article or not). If there are several buildings in one street all of the wikilinks point at an article about the street; however each entry has a separate line in the list.
- The "location" column looks and sorts better if just the parish or town is included (& wikilinked).
- The "date completed" column sometimes has eg "C19" for 19th century, and "C1850" for c. 1850 when the date is uncertain - these need to be corrected manually.
- The "grid ref & lat & long" (which is occasionally missing) may be given to 8 characters — only 6 (grid ref) or 5 (lat & long) are really needed.
- Clicking on the "list entry number" should take you to the data sheet for that entry on the official database which can be checked if needed for details.
- The image column should have a picture added if we already have a suitable image on Commons. (N.B. if you are going to be taking photos yourself for inclusion in the competition don't upload them until September)
- References may be added according to normal WP practice.
For further information, please see Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments 2013 in the United Kingdom.
If you have any queries, please post them not below but on the Organizers' help page on Commons.
Anything you can do to help improve these lists will be much appreciated. The final deadline for cleaning up is 31st August.
Relevance of RDTs
I am having problems with an editor who feels that RDTs are simply a Navbox or a list of stations, and can replaced with a table and a .png map. Anyone who has an opinion on this should add their comments to Wikipedia talk:Route diagram template#Purpose and scope. Useddenim (talk) 22:58, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
He is expanding his crusade to eliminate any display of proposed lines, routings and extensions to Wikipedia talk:Route diagram template and elsewhere. If he is successful in imposing his views on the non-notability and elimination of unbuilt proposals, then large sections of many canals’ histories could be deleted. Useddenim (talk) 10:43, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
There are currently a number of proposals to improve the language at WP:MOSNUM relating to the use of Units in UK related articles. External opinion is invited at WP:MOSNUM#RFC: Proposals to rewrite WP:MOSNUM on UK units of preference. Wee Curry Monster talk 14:32, 28 October 2013 (UTC)