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— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bob247 (talkcontribs) 21:03, 9 October 2012‎ (UTC)

Alumni Visvesvaraya National Institute of Technology[edit]

The list of alumni on Visvesvaraya National Institute of Technology is growing out of control and is taking over the article. To my opinion, it is becoming self-defeating, as nobody will read that long list of names.

True, such a long list is allowed as long as the alumni have their own article or have sufficient proof of being an alumni.

What I hope for is that people start creating articles about the alumni mention here and in that way proof that the persons mentioned are really noteworthy! The Banner talk 13:02, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

If it's getting too large, it might be worth considering splitting off a separate "List of <university name> people" article (e.g List of Harvard University people, List of University of Oxford people), with only the most notable alumni kept on the main page.Robminchin (talk) 16:26, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
The essay Wikipedia:College and university article advice sugggests that lists of alumni should only include those meeting Wikipedia notability. I'd suggest simply commenting out all those who don't currently have an en.Wikipedia article, and adding them back as and when articles on them are written. I don't think that just "sufficient proof of being an alumni" is justification for inclusion - someone could transcribe the entire list of graduates. PamD 22:45, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Apparent COI editing at Harrisburg University of Science and Technology[edit]

An editor with an apparent COI is edit-warring to retain promotional material at Harrisburg University of Science and Technology. I don't seem to be getting through to him or her. Can someone else please intervene? Thanks! ElKevbo (talk) 15:09, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi, ElKevbo. How about telling those about Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials and WP:OTRS? Shall I tell the editor(s) directly, or can you do it? --George Ho (talk) 05:09, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
If you think that would be helpful then by all means reach out to them! I don't think that copyright is the pressing concern here, however. They shouldn't be editing their employer's article. ElKevbo (talk) 14:44, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
I don't know the resolution to this editing dilemma, ElKevbo. Suitable venues to seek assistance would be WP:help desk, WP:editor assistance/Requests, or WP:VPP. If seeking help to improve Wikipedia is not warranted needed, I would suggest either of the latter two. I would recommend "editor assistance" if the issue is not much of a big deal. --George Ho (talk) 18:14, 2 March 2017 (UTC); edited. 18:15, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Merger discussion at Talk:Deltopia[edit]

I started the merger discussion at Talk:Deltopia#Merge into another article?. I invite you to comment. --George Ho (talk) 05:37, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Notice about adminship to participants at this project[edit]

Many participants here create a lot of content, may have to evaluate whether or not a subject is notable, decide if content complies with BLP policy, and much more. Well, these are just some of the skills considered at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship.

So, please consider taking a look at and watchlisting this page:

You could be very helpful in evaluating potential candidates, and even finding out if you would be a suitable RfA candidate.

Many thanks and best wishes,

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:40, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Change in U.S. News & World Report Law School "Top 14" Rankings[edit]

(I'm cross-posting this to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Law.)

U.S. News & World Report is about to release (or has just released) their latest rankings of law schools. Some editors are focused on the change in the so-called "Top 14" which have collectively been stable for several years but have just changed with one institution dropping out and another institution rising to number 14. These same people are rushing to edit articles, particularly Law school rankings in the United States‎‎, to update this information. Unfortunately, much of the editing is quite sloppy as there are many extant resources that refer to the "Top 14" but the new edits are not only changing the list of the current top ranked institutions but they're also changing what these older resources supposedly say, making many confusing grammatical errors, etc. Can someone with more patience, interest, and available time please take a look at this and help ensure that this and other articles (e.g., Law school in the United States) don't become confusing, misleading messes? Thanks! ElKevbo (talk) 19:04, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Well, don't keep us in suspense! Who's in and who's out? ;) Esrever (klaT) 19:46, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
IIRC, Georgetown dropped to 15 and Texas rose to 14. I think that someone leaked the rankings yesterday or the day before so folks were already in a tizzy then. (I haven't even looked to see if they've been officially released yet; this is not an area of any special interest for me.) ElKevbo (talk) 19:50, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Inconsistent naming of articles for the successors of the University of Paris[edit]

At University of Paris#Successors and legacy are neatly listed the 13 successors to the University of Paris system. The titles of the articles on these successors are terribly inconsistent, with respect to the presence or lack of numbering reflecting the old system, degree of conformance to the name of the school given in the second column, use of Roman or Arabic numerals, presence or absence of hyphens, and the use or non-use of diacriticals:

Old name New name Article title
University of Paris I Panthéon-Sorbonne University Pantheon-Sorbonne University
University of Paris II Panthéon-Assas University Panthéon-Assas University
University of Paris III Sorbonne Nouvelle University University of Paris III: Sorbonne Nouvelle
University of Paris IV Paris-Sorbonne University Paris-Sorbonne University
University of Paris V René Descartes University Paris Descartes University
University of Paris VI Pierre-and-Marie-Curie University Pierre and Marie Curie University
University of Paris VII Denis Diderot University Paris Diderot University
University of Paris VIII University of Vincennes in Saint-Denis Paris 8 University
University of Paris IX Paris Dauphine University Paris Dauphine University
University of Paris X University of Paris Ouest Paris Nanterre University
University of Paris XI University of Paris Sud University of Paris-Sud
University of Paris XII University of Paris Est Paris 12 Val de Marne University
University of Paris XIII University of Paris Nord Paris 13 University

The inconsistencies can even continue within an article: Inside the article Paris 13 University, the school is first identified as "University of Paris 13" and then as "University Paris-13".

Might someone acquainted with the ways of the university community in Paris want to have a go at establishing a convention for naming these schools? Largoplazo (talk) 08:32, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

It has been a problem on the French Wikipedia for years. These universities have a legal right to chose a name, and to change it. So basically, as soon as there is a new guy in charge of the communication, there is a new name, of a new spelling.XIIIfromTOKYO (talk) 09:19, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
and Paris Dauphine University... is no longer a university, despite its name. XIIIfromTOKYO (talk) 09:20, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
Wow, I see what you mean. Going to the universities' own websites, I find Université Paris 8 and Université Paris 13, while, for 12, I find Université Paris Est Créteil Val de Marne (with the word Créteil missing from the article's title). But, also, I find that University of Paris III: Sorbonne Nouvelle is an article about a university that calls itself Université Sorbonne Nouvelle - Paris 3, so the order in our article title is wrong and uses a Roman numeral where the university uses an Arabic numeral. Blah.
I came upon all this while reviewing an article about an academic with a degree from "Paris 13 University", where his own resume says "Paris Nord".Largoplazo (talk) 10:36, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
And sometimes a resume can say something like "graduated from the Sorbonne"...
There is a way to fix these inconsistencies, if it is decided that only the name used by the official decrees can be used for the titles. Something like "Université Paris-VIII", "Université Paris-XIII"... XIIIfromTOKYO (talk) 12:36, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
Please keep in mind that we do not rely solely on the desires (official websites, marketing communications, style guides, etc.) of subjects when determining the title of articles. It's an important consideration but our policy focuses on "the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources." ElKevbo (talk) 13:52, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
That's right, ElKevbo, but writers who want to refer to the university in English might well go to the English language page on the university website to establish the correct name. I'm not sure that happens all that often. I don't think we necessarily have to be consistent any more with regard to their common descent. Itsmejudith (talk) 22:03, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Articles related to the DMI Group[edit]

Would someone mind taking a look at DMI College of Engineering and DMI Group of Institutions assessing them to see if they are notable enough per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES and WP:LISTN respectively? Thanks in advance. --Marchjuly (talk) 01:07, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Note, firstly, that WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES is a statement of results rather than a guideline for notability. However, the general outcome has been that higher education institutions are normally considered notable if they are "independently accredited degree-awarding institutions". As it stands, the DMI College of Engineering article demonstrates that it awards degrees, but not that it is independently accredited (or the local equivalent).
Looking more generally, a university should be able to meet the standard guidelines for notability, in a nutshell "has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". The references on the DMI College of Engineering are mostly not independent and those that are do not (to my mind) qualify as "significant coverage".
None of this is to say that DMI College of Engineering is non-notable. But my feeling is that, as it currently stands, the article does not conclusively demonstrate notability. Robminchin (talk) 19:32, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for taking a look Robminchin. The instituion's article was deleted since it was created by a block-evading editor. The college's was created by the same editor prior to their block, but as you say it has some major notability issues. It's also possible the editor is connected to the university in some way other than simply being a "student". Anyway, COI is not really a reason for deletion, but lack of notability is. Do you suggest tagging this with {{Notability}}, prodding it, or bringing it to AfD? -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:10, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Location of University of Notre Dame[edit]

There is a new discussion of the location of the University of Notre Dame on Talk:University of Notre Dame--Jahaza (talk) 18:01, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Montpellier Business School[edit]

That should be the name, it seems to me, per their website. No-one is going to find them in Groupe Sup de Co Montpellier Business School. Manchester Metropolitan University in the UK has a link with them (if I have the right institution), and the name used there is a redlink and seems to be out of date. Any objections to moving it? Itsmejudith (talk) 17:23, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Royal Military Academy (Belgium)[edit]

Should we merge Category:Alumni of Royal Military Academy of Belgium with Category:Royal Military Academy (Belgium) alumni ? Nezdek (talk) 10:06, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

That would seem sensible. I would suggest merger under the name Royal Military Academy (Belgium) to match the institution's wikipage. Robminchin (talk) 15:07, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
@Robminchin: I agree with that. As I don't know very well how is it done, could you please merge as you said ? Nezdek (talk) 17:03, 26 March 2017 (UTC)