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Shmuplations[edit]

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Hey guys, I want to send an email to the site owner, but I'm having trouble figuring out exactly what I'm trying to ask. As you may or may not know, this guy translates interviews from old Japanese publications to English. My main issue with the site is he often doesn't say WHERE he got the interview from. For example, there's a great interview about Ikaruga on there, but it only says it's an interview with Masato Maegawa from 2001, no source mentioned.

Ultimately, I think determining the quality of the translator's skill is not important. It's no different from me opening an old Famicom issue, and translating it as I write it into Wikipedia. Many editors don't have English as their primary language too. That is why we source, so that if other editors doubt information, they can go to the source and check it themselves and verify. Given the amount of work and effort put into the website, I think we can safely say he doesn't have malicious intent.

So is it really the reliability of Shmuplations we are looking for here? Honestly, I think if he sources back to the original source (issue number and everything), than I say use his translations all you want, just footnote the ORIGINAL source he listed into wiki. I was going to send him an email to suggest to start putting that information in more often. What do you think? And I mean hey if we determine shmuplations itself is reliable, I won't complain :) TarkusAB 23:52, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Of course, this website can serve greatly as a portal to reliable foreign-language content. I would recommend against citing him directly, but using his translations as an editor can be very helpful. If you're unsure if the translation is accurate, you can always try using Google Translate to read the original work yourself. Sending the translator a mail to say that you would appreciate it if he'd list his sources more often sounds like a very good idea :) ~Mable (chat) 13:03, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

The Washington Times[edit]

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Recently, I have told Steam users in the forums that something bad was going to happen to the Internet, and I have used this source, The Washington Times (Yes, they do cover video game subjects as well.), but they say that it will not happen, and two of them said that The Washington Times is a "fearmongering tabloid with no credibility whatsoever". However, I think that they are lying (simply because the newspaper is conservative), and I want to know whether this is a good source to use to cover video game subjects. Gamingforfun365 (talk) 02:37, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

  • Yes, like most large newspapers like this, it would generally meet Wikipedia's standards for being a reliable source. I mean, look out for the occasional typo that mainstream press often makes when they're not focused on video games (Super Mario 64 is the 8th entry in the Super Mario series) but they're generally useable. What in the world are you using it to source though? Sergecross73 msg me 02:53, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
I was using it to source the news about the Obama Administration's Internet giveaway. Gamingforfun365 (talk) 02:58, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
For something that political, you probably need more than one paper's opinion on the situation. --Odie5533 (talk) 08:13, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
Yes, I forgot to follow up this, but I meant to say something to this effect as well. For something political, and talking about a hypothetical future thing, you'd probably either want multiple sources, or directly attribute the stance to the paper. (ie "According to John Smith of the Washington Times, the internet is...") Sergecross73 msg me 12:53, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Pocket Tactics[edit]

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Noticed this at the bottom of the Wargamer page. Seems they're both owned by Slitherine Software and, according to their about page, they're on Metacritic. Of course that doesn't mean it'll be considered reliable here automatically. So what does everyone else thing of the website? GamerPro64 23:32, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Millenium[edit]

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http://www.millenium.org/, French gaming and eSports website.--Prisencolin (talk) 04:44, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Reevaluating The Escapist[edit]

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The site has been rather turbulent since that one event in 2014 took the gaming world by storm. Between replacing or firing most all of its staff, axing its office and generally just not being discussed in my circles, is it still considered a reliable source for news an opinions? I went for a quick look and the editorial policy doesn't seem to exist, but I did find an ethics policy. The drama surrounding Star Citizen shows that oversight is weak and since then it doesn't seem to have gotten better. Alex's questionable statements also do not bode well for reliability (or a sort of neutral stance). For the sake of making this easy, let's ignore Zero Punctuation.

Are we sure we want to keep this as reliable? Zero Serenity (talk - contributions) 21:04, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

"and generally just not being discussed in my circles" What the heck kind of argument is that? Is there seriously a call for re-evaluting The Escapist because of GamerGate? I'm sorry but just because they may be on deaths door due to the layoffs and the closing of one of their offices doesn't mean we should not find them reliable anymore. They're still writing game reviews, reporting on news (even though it doesn't seem to be original reporting anymore), and all that stuff other websites do. Heck, you mentioned an ethics policy that they have. That's pretty all right with me that they have it.
I don't think this should be knocked down from being a reliable source. Situational, I can see the argument. But if the argument is changing it to unreliable then I am against that idea. We might as well remove every citation from The Escapist, removing ten plus years of journalism from Wikipedia. GamerPro64 23:45, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
  • VG247 and iDigitalTimes still use The Escapist as a reliable source for factual information as of Sept 17, so I think it's still reliable. --Odie5533 (talk) 02:13, 28 September 2016 (UTC)