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AtariHQ reliability (again)[edit]

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AtariHQ is currently listed as a reliable source and there have been four discussions.[1] I have found two game reviews attributed to Keita Iida of AtariHQ appear to be modified from older magazine reviews. Here's one example from the AtariHQ review of Super Breakout for the Atari 5200:

  • Keita Iida: "I found it curious that Atari did not include the children's version found on the 2600 cartridge (no ball speedup and paddle does not go to half size after the ball hits the top of the screen.)" [2]
  • David H. Ahl (1983): "Again, we found it curious that Atari did not include the children's version (no ball speedup and paddle does not go to half size after a ball hits the top of the screen)." [3]

Here are excerpts from reviews of Boulders and Bombs:

  • Keita Iida: "It's a neat little premise upon which to build a game. Unfortunately, there challenge here isn't too exciting. After the novelty wears off you notice the details, like the spelunker's utter ineptness at dropping bombs." [4]
  • Electronic Fun with Computers & Games (1983): "This is a sound premise on which to build a game. Unfortunately the designers failed to provide an exciting challenge. After the novelty wears off you notice the details like the spelunker's complete ineptness at dropping bombs." [5]

I don't know what the full extent of this is. Dgpop (talk) 16:12, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

@Wgungfu: Do you have anything to add here? You are the co-owner right? Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 16:45, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
  • I can't really comment about the similarities between those reviews, but I will say that I do still think this site is reliable. It's owned and edited by Marty Goldberg, who's been a fact checker/writer at Retro Gamer and an editor at GameSpy and IGN, all of which are pretty high-quality reliable sources. JOEBRO64 21:32, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Casual Maniacs[edit]

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casual-maniacs.de - German online(?) gaming magazine. Unlike what the IP thinks, there's nothing inherently unreliable or non-notable about casual gaming. ansh666 19:44, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
So it's reliable, situation or unreliable? Sorry of thinking that Casual Playing is not notable on Wikipedia. i as angery about something72.10.135.251 (talk) 23:09, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
Not sure, since I don't read German. But I would tend towards reliable, since it does seem to have an editing staff. ansh666 03:51, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Unreliable. Has a staff but no indication that any of them have any professional training (or last names for that matter) and it's only the admin and one woman, so it's hard to call it a "staff". The legal imprint points to a private person, not any kind of organization or company and uses disclaimers generated by free online generators, usually a sign of a lack of professionalism. I also cannot find any mentions of this site on other RS websites. Regards SoWhy 17:01, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Japan Times[edit]

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English language Japanese newspaper, occasionally reports on gaming news, available in both print and online editions. Reporting is high quality, neutral.

Examples of gaming reporting: 2008, 2013,2017. I checked and it doesn't appear to be added to the search engine or the approved sources list. Harizotoh9 (talk) 14:06, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

The list is largely made of video game/technology-centric sources. As the page notes, The New York Times would be considered reliable too, but we don't list it because it's more of a general news site, and if we listed every one of those, well, the list would be massive. Regardless, I agree with your sentiment though, if they've been around for over a decade since the 1980s and have a print version, that alone is enough to point it towards "likely reliable". Sergecross73 msg me 14:43, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
The Search Engine includes the NYTimes, but not the Japan Times. Japan Times would fit nicely for the search engine. They cover Japanese media more than the NYTimes, and it's a good high quality source in English, meaning it's easy to use. Harizotoh9 (talk) 16:15, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
Right, I was just talking about about this list. I have no objection to adding it to the search engine either. Sergecross73 msg me 16:57, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
Well, our page for the search claims that we are mirroring the RS list, NYTimes is there but not here, that wouldn't be true. We should probably cross-check what belongs where. Lordtobi () 17:12, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
You guys can do whatever you want with the search engine. Or whatever consensus dictates, or Czar/Thibbs want, since they primarily maintain it, or whatever. I don't really care - I don't use it personally. I'm just talking about, and explaining, the list. We generally keep generic reliable sources to a minimum, or the page would balloon would expand out to a ridiculous size. Sergecross73 msg me 18:22, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Similarly, The Korea Times is a long-running English-language magazine that has a lot of coverage on video games from the Korean peninsula (Bluehole et al). Lordtobi () 16:46, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes, I forgot about The Korean Times. They did a piece recently on Starcraft caster Nick Plott. In addition there's also the Nikkei Asian Review, the English language spin-off of Nikkei. They are a business paper, so they tend to focus on companies and the macro picture, but sometimes they'll detail game development, like the technology behind a big hit game. All three are high quality English language Asian newspapers. All three should be added to the search engine. Harizotoh9 (talk) 17:33, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Hardcore Gaming 101[edit]

Editors may be interested in this RSN discussion. Please comment there per WP:MULTI if that is of interest. --Izno (talk) 15:24, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

SourceGaming.info[edit]

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Like Shmuplations, this site has a ton of translated interviews from Japanese game devs alongside other original, interesting articles. Problem is, the about us page is a bit thin: the staff uses pseudonyms and none of 'em seem to have visible credentials. I'm inclined to say unreliable, but I'd like other opinions on this. JOEBRO64 15:14, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

  • Unreliable per their own disclaimer: SourceGaming.info is a fansite, [...]. Any translations provided by SourceGaming.info are for fan use only and may not accurately reflect the original meaning. Regards SoWhy 17:04, 24 August 2018 (UTC)