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Table of Viral Information[edit]

I have a new article I'd like to publish, but it's essentially a giant table. I would like some advice/help formatting it and getting it into a usable format. I am thinking I should add the relevant parts to existing pages (such as all the genera in a family to a new section in that family's page). I may not be making much sense; please take a look and tell me what you think. It's currently on my Sandbox.
Espresso Addict, MicroPaLeo, and ComfyKem, you were all very helpful in helping me publish my Taxonomic list of viruses, and I'm hoping you can point me in the right direction again.
Thanks! Bervin61 (talk) 18:41, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

I haven't heard from anyone yet, but I've created my table here. Please give feedback; I'm not entirely happy with how it turned out, and would like to get some suggestions on formatting. Thanks! Bervin61 (talk) 14:30, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
I think it's too big for it's own article, but the information can easily be split off into the relevant articles, like what you did with Yualikevirus. ComfyKem (talk) 09:25, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
I'm planning to do the same with each page I create, hoping it becomes standard practice. I'm still pretty new, but is there any way to make the tables into a template for genera (and/or other taxa)? Also, I'm interested in building a database of such information - keeping the tables linked in some way and centralized somewhere would be ideal for my uses. Any advice? Bervin61 (talk) 19:51, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
I'm not quite sure what you're looking for, but some of Wikipedia's sister projects might serve your goals better. Wikispecies is heavily dependent on templates (but allows little content beside basic taxonomic information). Wikidata is a database (there's really no good way to do a structured data scheme on Wikipedia or Wikispecies). You might find {{Automatic taxobox}} useful here on Wikipedia. There have been bots in the past that have created taxon articles on Wikipedia from external databases, but the bot generated articles had various problems, and I don't think people on English Wikipedia want to see bots making more taxon pages at present (the Swedish Wikipedia on the other hand has upwards of 1 million bot-generated articles on biological taxa). You could use regular expressions to convert a table or other structured data into a simple prose article, but that might be more trouble than it's worth. Plantdrew (talk) 21:47, 16 March 2015 (UTC)


Over the past couple of months, I have worked to expand the Viruses portal, and I think it is now reasonably well developed. I have set up a suggestions page for new content, if anyone is interested in suggesting articles or commenting on my latest suggestions. It is still not getting all that many hits; would anyone object if I were to add a graphical link to the portal in the See also section of some of the project's popular articles? I note it has already been added to some articles (not by me) at the very bottom, underneath the virus templates, but that isn't the place where such links are recommended to be placed. Espresso Addict (talk) 04:48, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Excellent work. Well done you. SW3 5DL (talk) 18:24, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Request for Opinion on Redirect[edit]

In Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions#Article_that_should_be_a_redirect I asked the following: "I noticed that the Groundnut crinkle virus article looks like is should be a redirect to the Cowpea mild mottle virus. Both articles list the other's species name as a synonym, and none of the other synonyms listed (identical for each virus) have an article. Is there someone with some level of expertise in virus taxonomy who could take a look and change Groundnut crinkle virus into a redirect if appropriate?" It was recommended in the response that I inquire here. Thanks. Carl Henderson (talk) 23:02, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

While GCV is not listed by the ICTV, I do not find anything (other than the Cowpea mild mottle virus article) claiming that they are synonymous. The best I've found (from a short search) is that they are "serologically related." I would suggest that the claim of synonymity needs a citation before the articles be merged. I am, however, by no means an expert in the field. Bervin61 (talk) 17:34, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
For what it's worth, this citation says they are "closely related by can be differentiated by their host ranges"
The Plant Viruses: The Filamentous Plant Viruses
by R.G. Milne, Springer Science & Business Media, November 9, 2013
Carl Henderson (talk) 03:32, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Massive contribution[edit]

I am currently adding/updating hundreds of articles on genera, familia, and sub-familia. I've written scripts to pull from ICTV and ViralZone and write coherent articles (I hope). It would be GREATLY appreciated if I could get some help proofing these. Please check through my recent contributions for the newly created/edited articles. Thank you! Bervin61 (talk) 17:11, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Renaming/moving virus families[edit]

Several virus families are in articles using their less formal name, ending in -virus. Due to the recently formalized naming standard by ICTV where all genera end in -virus, all subfamilies end in -virinae, and all families end in -viridae, this informal naming has become confusing. For example, family Picornaviridae is under the article Picornavirus. Similarly, Retroviridae is at Retrovirus. These pages seem to refer to genera rather than familia.

This would be easy to remedy, and (assuming ICTV sticks with their current naming guidelines) will reduce confusion going forward, especially in cases such as genus Barnavirus and family Barnaviridae, or Chrysovirus and Chrysoviridae, Endornavirus and Endornaviridae, etc. Bervin61 (talk) 21:30, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

I'm generally in agreement with this, but please be aware of WP:COMMONNAME and that Wikipedia is not a mirror site of the ICTV. If a reader looks up norovirus, they probably just want to learn about norovirus and not about viral taxonomy. Unless an article exists for the viral family, I suggest leaving the redirect in place. Also WP:NOT might be pertinent here. Graham Beards (talk) 21:48, 30 June 2015 (UTC)