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Cleanup list bot[edit]

Hey folks! I added the project to the cleanup worklist bot's project list. This means that every Tuesday (starting today), the bot will compile a list of all pages tagged with the project's banner that are also tagged with some issue and compile that into a masterlist. The output for this Tuesday is here (and can also be accessed with this template: {{WikiProject cleanup list|Viruses}} which shows up as clean-up listing for Virusesthe tool's wiki page ). As you can see, 537 of our 2322 articles (23%) are currently tagged with some concern. It also has a history function, so we can see how the number of tagged issues/articles changes over time. It's pretty nifty, and a good way to find something to do if you want to do something productive here but only have a few minutes. Let me know if you have any questions about this. Happy editing! Ajpolino (talk) 03:52, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Missing topics list[edit]

My list of missing topics about viruses is updated - Skysmith (talk) 13:04, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Eyes would be appreciated at RNA virus[edit]

Would appreciate your thoughts on this discussion. — soupvector (talk) 17:31, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Virus taxoboxes[edit]

I've been working on updating the automated taxobox system (templates like {{Speciesbox}}, {{Automatic taxobox}}, etc.). There's a part that should have been dealing specifically with viruses, but it turns out that it was never actually being called, so viruses weren't being treated specially. However, few virus articles seem to use automated taxoboxes.

My understanding is that the reason for special treatment is that the scientific names of all virus taxa are italicized in the English Wikipedia, whereas for other organisms only names at the rank of genus and below are italicized.

If this is the case, I'd like to fix the automated taxobox system. I notice, though, that many virus articles are inconsistent. Consider Hypoviridae as an example. "Hypoviridae" is:

  • italicized in the opening text and in the line of the manual taxobox that reads "Family: Hypoviridae"
  • not italicized in the article title and in the taxobox heading.

(Incidentally, "Hypovirus" isn't italicized in the table.)

What exactly is meant to be the case? Peter coxhead (talk) 10:27, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

See here [1] Graham Beards (talk) 13:49, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
@Graham Beards: thanks. So, to be absolutely clear, both the article title and the taxobox header should be in italics, as should the genus name Hypovirus?
This almost never sems to be the case: look at the family articles linked in the taxobox at Double-stranded RNA viruses, for example. (The articles have manual taxoboxes, so wouldn't be affected by any fixes I made to automated taxoboxes.) Peter coxhead (talk) 14:15, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi Peter, nice to meet you. I have had this conversation before, but not with you. It's a tricky one. The convention with viruses is to only use italics in the context of taxonomy. Take Rotavirus for example. The species are Rotavirus A, Rotavirus B,Rotavirus C and so on. But when the virus is referred to in the article, outside the context of classification, it is just "rotavirus"; (no capital letter or italics), same with "hepatitis B" and "herpes simplex virus". In a taxobox, my view is that the ICTV convention should be applied but not necessarily in the article title or body. Graham Beards (talk) 14:35, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
Scientific classification e
Group: Group III (dsRNA)
Family: Reoviridae
Subfamily: Sedovirinae
Genus: Rotavirus
If there's to be a change to the automated taxoboxes, I need a precise rule. If I understand correctly, you suggest that Rotavirus is correct – the taxobox title and formal taxon names in it should be italicized, but not the article title. At present, an automated taxobox looks like the one to the left here, but the title, family and subfamily name should be in italics. Peter coxhead (talk) 20:13, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
I agree, but I would leave the taxobox title as it is. Graham Beards (talk) 20:46, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
Ok, I'll try to get it to work like that. Editors can easily manually italicize taxobox titles if they wish. I have to say that virus articles are wildly inconsistent in their italicization! Thanks again. Peter coxhead (talk) 21:01, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
They are indeed. But most readers neither notice nor care, sadly. Thanks, Peter. Graham Beards (talk) 21:54, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Having looked into this, it appears that although it would be possible to italicize virus orders, families, subfamilies, genera and species by default in automated taxoboxes, it's quite fiddly to implement. However, there appear not to be any virus articles using automated taxoboxes, even though taxonomy templates have been set up (e.g. Template:Taxonomy/Inoviridae, Template:Taxonomy/Rotavirus). So I'm inclined to leave things as they are, in view of the significant cost and apparent zero benefit. If an editor does want to use an automated taxobox for a virus in future, then the taxon name can be italicized in |link= in the taxonomy template, as I have done for Template:Taxonomy/Reoviridae and Template:Taxonomy/Sedoreovirinae for the sake of example. This means that the automated taxobox for Rotavirus now displays with italics.

@Plantdrew: you do a lot of work on taxoboxes; do you have any views? Peter coxhead (talk) 11:22, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

@Peter coxhead: I usually italicize all the ranks in the taxobox if I'm editing a virus article for other reasons (I don't make edits solely to italicize). I don't usually bother messing with the italics in running text, but I think the same considerations should apply as with Iris/iris and Gorilla/gorilla; italicize when the context is taxonomic, leave unitalicized in other contexts. Titles could be italicized, but it's often the case that the title (and also the species parameter value in the taxobox) is something other than the ICTV approved scientific name (e.g. Pseudomonas phage Φ6 is Pseudomonas virus phi6 per ICTV). I'd want to make sure that the title is the ICTV name before italicizing it, but I don't usually take the time to check that. Plantdrew (talk) 20:12, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. If we were starting again, I think that using special rank names in taxoboxes, manual or automated, might be the way forward. E.g. |virofamilia=Reoviridae would lead to the display "Family: Reoviridae". I think that, at least for now, we'll have to leave it to editors to italicize manually (or not). Peter coxhead (talk) 21:11, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

WikiJournal of Medicine promotion[edit]

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The WikiJournal of Medicine is a free, peer reviewed academic journal which aims to provide a new mechanism for ensuring the accuracy of Wikipedia's biomedical content. We started it as a way of bridging the Wikipedia-academic gap.[1] It is also part of a WikiJournal User Group with other WikiJournals under development.[2] The journal is still starting out and not yet well known, so we are advertising ourselves to WikiProjects that might be interested.

Engaging Wikipedians

  • Original articles on topics that don't yet have a Wikipedia page, or only a stub/start
  • Wikipedia articles that you are willing to see through external peer review (either solo or as in a group, process analagous to GA / FA review)
  • Image articles, based around an important medical image or summary diagram

Engaging non-Wikipedians

We hope that an academic journal format may also encourage non-Wikipedians to contribute who would otherwise not. Therefore, please consider:

  • Printing off the advertisement poster an distribute in tearooms & noticeboards at your place of work
  • Emailing around the pdf through contact networks or mailing lists (suggested wording)

If you want to know more, we recently published an editorial describing how the journal developed.[3] Alternatively, check out the journal's About or Discussion pages.

  1. ^ Masukume, G; Kipersztok, L; Das, D; Shafee, T; Laurent, M; Heilman, J (November 2016). "Medical journals and Wikipedia: a global health matter". The Lancet Global Health. 4 (11): e791. doi:10.1016/S2214-109X(16)30254-6. 
  2. ^ "Wikiversity Journal: A new user group". The Signpost. 2016-06-15. 
  3. ^ Shafee, T; Das, D; Masukume, G; Häggström, M. "WikiJournal of Medicine, the first Wikipedia-integrated academic journal". WikiJournal of Medicine. 4. doi:10.15347/wjm/2017.001. 
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Additionally, the WikiJournal of Science is just starting up under a similar model and looking for contributors. Firstly it is seeking editors to guide submissions through external academic peer review and format accepted articles. It is also encouraging submission of articles in the same format as Wiki.J.Med. If you're interested, please come and discuss the project on the journal's talk page, or the general discussion page for the WikiJournal User group.
T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)talk 10:01, 24 January 2017 (UTC)